Shaun Maloney - Style of play

[Hibs4185]

Felt a little sorry for Jack Ross but I wanted him out a few weeks previously.

It’s no coincidence that all the moans and groans from Hibs fans were the same as Sunderland previously. Boring, dull and uninspiring football.

Did I want to go the Jack Ross games - 50/50
Do I want to go the SM games - 100%

That’s the difference

[Nicho87]

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Can't see much of a style change but confidence seems to be building.

So you’ve not noticed

Pressing in 2/3 players
Wing backs higher and wider
Macey rarely goes long
We had double the amount of passes than the opposition yesterday

Not being rude at all

Personally don’t understand how anyone can’t see changes, that’s only in 1 week

[Northernhibee]

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So you’ve not noticed

Pressing in 2/3 players
Wing backs higher and wider
Macey rarely goes long
We had double the amount of passes than the opposition yesterday

Not being rude at all

Personally don’t understand how anyone can’t see changes, that’s only in 1 week

I expected more of the same until the winter break and then regroup. We've now won three in a row (one under SDG) but seen much better football, six points against two teams who have both beaten us this season at some point, improved performances from some players including the much maligned Drey Wright (who was very good yesterday) and more width, more confidence on the ball, more attacking threat, more organised at the back, less long balls and more possession.

[EdinMike]

Drey Wright… who saw that one coming ? I’ll hold my hands up and say Wow…

[04Sauzee]

Only stats but the difference between the 3-1 cup win and yesterday

3-1 cup win


Yesterday 3-1

[wookie70]

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Drey Wright… who saw that one coming ? I’ll hold my hands up and say Wow…

He looked like a player lacking in confidence and unclear in his role. He now has a manager that gives all the credit to the players and who is encouraging them to play and giving clear instructions. He may still have a future at the club.

Early days but it looks like the players are very comfortable in the new way of playing, the crowd at the Aberdeen game was also really patient and at the moment we aren't conceding due to players winning the ball back from our defenders. Those were all things I thought might make this style of play difficult to implement but so far it has all went exactly to plan. The one thing that is very obvious, particularly yesterday, is that when you have so much of the ball you don't need to defend much. Our weakness was cross balls and often teams would waltz into our final third and get a cross in without a challenge(St Mirren equaliser). That will happen far less as we have the ball for such long periods. It took a moment of brilliance to get through our defence yesterday but generally we looked very assured.

[Bushwoof]

Agreed that the style of play has obviously changed. We're much more likely to play the ball short and forward through the midfield. To have changed so much so quickly is pretty incredible, I'd say.
I had got to the stage under JR where I was thinking that maybe the players simply weren't good enough to play in the style that SM wants. And it seems that isn't the case at all. Which suggests that JR was in effect making the players worse, rather than improving them. I think in a few months we'll all be glad RG had the cohones to make the decision he did.
We should all take the lead from SM, and give all the players - such as Drey Wright - a clean slate, and a chance to show what they can do under a manager who seems capable of bringing out the best in them.

[Brightside]

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He looked like a player lacking in confidence and unclear in his role. He now has a manager that gives all the credit to the players and who is encouraging them to play and giving clear instructions. He may still have a future at the club.

Early days but it looks like the players are very comfortable in the new way of playing, the crowd at the Aberdeen game was also really patient and at the moment we aren't conceding due to players winning the ball back from our defenders. Those were all things I thought might make this style of play difficult to implement but so far it has all went exactly to plan. The one thing that is very obvious, particularly yesterday, is that when you have so much of the ball you don't need to defend much. Our weakness was cross balls and often teams would waltz into our final third and get a cross in without a challenge(St Mirren equaliser). That will happen far less as we have the ball for such long periods. It took a moment of brilliance to get through our defence yesterday but generally we looked very assured.

That first paragraph is a mighty leap!

[The 90+2]

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So you’ve not noticed

Pressing in 2/3 players
Wing backs higher and wider
Macey rarely goes long
We had double the amount of passes than the opposition yesterday

Not being rude at all

Personally don’t understand how anyone can’t see changes, that’s only in 1 week

I genuinely haven’t no, I’ve only been watching on tv though maybe it’s different if at the game. Not moaning either just haven’t seen much of a difference confidence aside.

[B.H.F.C]

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I genuinely haven’t no, I’ve only been watching on tv though maybe it’s different if at the game. Not moaning either just haven’t seen much of a difference confidence aside.

Even watching on TV yesterday there is such a noticeable difference.

The formation is different before a ball is even kicked. We’ve won 3-1 up there twice this season but there was a big contrast in the way we dominated the ball yesterday in comparison to our last visit.

[The 90+2]

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Even watching on TV yesterday there is such a noticeable difference.

The formation is different before a ball is even kicked. We’ve won 3-1 up there twice this season but there was a big contrast in the way we dominated the ball yesterday in comparison to our last visit.

The last time we won 3-1 the game was done and dusted at half time having absolutely torn them apart. Yesterday was more controlled and measured and took the whole game to win.

[hibsbollah]

Having rewatched it, there is a:

Different formation
Different intensity pressing in their half
Different intensity pressing in our half
Much less long diagonals from Macey and Porteous
Much more short passes from deep positions
Much more off the ball movement

I think those claiming not to have seen much difference are arguing a position for the sake of it.

[wookie70]

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That first paragraph is a mighty leap!

Perhaps but why not be optimistic. The start has been excellent and players who looked liked they were struggling are fitting into a different style and looking pretty comfortable

[B.H.F.C]

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The last time we won 3-1 the game was done and dusted at half time having absolutely torn them apart. Yesterday was more controlled and measured and took the whole game to win.

In the cup game up there I didn’t think we were in control despite the result and remember that being a talking point at the time. Yesterday I didn’t think we were ever in any trouble.

I might be wrong but I think those who aren’t seeing a difference are those who were among the more critical of our decision to bin Ross. People might prefer the way a Ross team went about it, but there can’t be and argument about us looking to play differently, surely.

[Nicho87]

In the hibs tv highlights cadden races down the right and the hibs player at the back post is josh doig

Full back to full back, away from home!

Absolutely love that
It’s little things like that - which give the mind set to opposition players that if they score 1 we will score two and you better be fit

Honestly watched the full game on alba and it was a breath of fresh air

SHAUN MALONEYS GREEN N WHITE ARMY

[WhileTheChief..]

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The last time we won 3-1 the game was done and dusted at half time having absolutely torn them apart. Yesterday was more controlled and measured and took the whole game to win.

Agreed.

Things look much better because of the results, and the players maybe have a wee spring in their step, but we’re not really playing any differently to earlier in the season when we were also getting results.

[WhileTheChief..]

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Having rewatched it, there is a:

Different formation
Different intensity pressing in their half
Different intensity pressing in our half
Much less long diagonals from Macey and Porteous
Much more short passes from deep positions
Much more off the ball movement

I think those claiming not to have seen much difference are arguing a position for the sake of it.

Why would anyone do that? Maybe they’re just calling it as they see it?

Not everyone has an agenda or is looking for an argument!!

[B.H.F.C]

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In the hibs tv highlights cadden races down the right and the hibs player at the back post is josh doig

Full back to full back, away from home!

Absolutely love that
It’s little things like that - which give the mind set to opposition players that if they score 1 we will score two and you better be fit

Honestly watched the full game on alba and it was a breath of fresh air

SHAUN MALONEYS GREEN N WHITE ARMY

Intent is the word I’d use to sum up what I’ve seen so far. I thought we lacked it under JR, with and without the ball. I always felt like we were reliant on an individual moment (mainly from Boyle) whereas we’re seeing others looking likely to chip in already just from getting in to good areas. Cadden had three efforts on goal yesterday and I think we’ll start to see him and Doig chip in more regularly. There was a similar example on Wednesday to the one you mention where Cadden stood the ball up and it was Doig who ended up headering it over the bar at the back post. That obviously isn’t something overly worthy of praise but it just shows that they’re being asked to get up the park and support a lot more.

[Nicho87]

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Intent is the word I’d use to sum up what I’ve seen so far. I thought we lacked it under JR, with and without the ball. I always felt like we were reliant on an individual moment (mainly from Boyle) whereas we’re seeing others looking likely to chip in already just from getting in to good areas. Cadden had three efforts on goal yesterday and I think we’ll start to see him and Doig chip in more regularly. There was a similar example on Wednesday to the one you mention where Cadden stood the ball up and it was Doig who ended up headering it over the bar at the back post. That obviously isn’t something overly worthy of praise but it just shows that they’re being asked to get up the park and support a lot more.

Bang on about Boyle

I actually think this was part of Ross downfall

If you remember Boyle came back from injury in Livingston game just as hecky was or just about given his jotters

Sadly Ross built a style of give it to Boyle at every opportunity, hence where this season teams worked it out as recents results shown

Love the mind set already

Two games but hibs fans can handle losing but for me it’s the manner in which you lose. I’d rather lose 4-2 going hell for leather rather than 1-0 feeling the game was no way back, again we saw that show too often with Ross.

Maloney won’t always get it right but there is clearly a plan with a style of play going to be implemented even further as the training sessions go deeper.

Happy days.

[Northernhibee]

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Bang on about Boyle

I actually think this was part of Ross downfall

If you remember Boyle came back from injury in Livingston game just as hecky was or just about given his jotters

Sadly Ross built a style of give it to Boyle at every opportunity, hence where this season teams worked it out as recents results shown

Love the mind set already

Two games but hibs fans can handle losing but for me it’s the manner in which you lose. I’d rather lose 4-2 going hell for leather rather than 1-0 feeling the game was no way back, again we saw that show too often with Ross.

Maloney won’t always get it right but there is clearly a plan with a style of play going to be implemented even further as the training sessions go deeper.

Happy days.

I don't think it was a coincidence that the best performance JR had in his last dozen games with us in the league (the semi final being an obvious and massive exception) was the game where Boyle was suspended. We were much less predictable and the other players had to do something different.

[BoomtownHibees]

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Having rewatched it, there is a:

Different formation
Different intensity pressing in their half
Different intensity pressing in our half
Much less long diagonals from Macey and Porteous
Much more short passes from deep positions
Much more off the ball movement

I think those claiming not to have seen much difference are arguing a position for the sake of it.

Aye but apart from those things listed, what’s different?

[04Sauzee]

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Agreed.

Things look much better because of the results, and the players maybe have a wee spring in their step, but we’re not really playing any differently to earlier in the season when we were also getting results.

Or maybe some people didn't want Maloney so will see what they want 👀

I wasn't clambering for Ross to get sacked but the difference in style of play is night and day

[hibsbollah]

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Aye but apart from those things listed, what’s different?

The aqueduct

[hibsbollah]

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Why would anyone do that? Maybe they’re just calling it as they see it?

Not everyone has an agenda or is looking for an argument!!

I have no idea. I suppose there is another possibility, which is that they have their eyes painted on

[J-C]

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The aqueduct

Haha how many will get that.

[RossScott1991]

We’ve got Porto at the back
Boyle in attack
Passing, moving , tempo the hibs are back

[04Sauzee]

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Haha how many will get that.

Brian will.

[Northernhibee]

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We’ve got Porto at the back
Boyle in attack
Passing, moving , tempo the hibs are back

If we're going to do a Maloney song then it has to be to the tune of "Only the lonely" by Roy Orbison.

[Shrekko]

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Why would anyone do that? Maybe they’re just calling it as they see it?

Not everyone has an agenda or is looking for an argument!!

Thanks for saving me replying to this comment and absolutely spot on.

There’s no way in God’s earth that a new coach can make a dramatic difference in between 2 and 4 training sessions.

Aberdeen was an absolute horrible game of football - and I’m not blaming SM for that, and yesterday was decent but no different to some of the other recent performances at Tannadice.

Already folk saying they couldn’t bear to watch us under JR but SM has turned them back round to wanting to watch Hibs in a few days? Great if anyone wants to come back but dearie me….. The truth is that JR was doomed from the start with some of the fans and this hyperbole about how amazing we suddenly are once he’s gone proves it.

[Green Reaper]

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The aqueduct

V good 😂