General election 2019

[lord bunberry]

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I'm hearing that the tories are to step aside in East Dumbartonshire to help out their ally Jo Swinson.

That will help if they need a coalition partner again. I can’t believe anyone is fooled by her, she is a Tory and always will be. The only reason she isn’t a Tory mp is that she’s an opportunist who came into politics when the Tory party were unelectable.

[Mibbes Aye]

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I'm hearing that the tories are to step aside in East Dumbartonshire to help out their ally Jo Swinson.

I’m thinking you need cotton buds then because it is East Dunbartonshire, not East Dumbartonshire

I can fully see why the SNP would want to target this seat but their vote share there went down 10%at the last GE with a swing from SNP to LD of 7.2%. It is certainly a heavy EU Remain area.

[Ozyhibby]

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I’m thinking you need cotton buds then because it is East Dunbartonshire, not East Dumbartonshire

I can fully see why the SNP would want to target this seat but their vote share there went down 10%at the last GE with a swing from SNP to LD of 7.2%. It is certainly a heavy EU Remain area.

Yip. I don’t think any of the Lib Dem seats in Scotland are on the SNP target list. Outside chance maybe Edinburgh West but the fact Lib Dem’s are solid remain and are up in the polls suggests they will hang to what they have. Top targets are all Labour and Tory.


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[lord bunberry]

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I’m thinking you need cotton buds then because it is East Dunbartonshire, not East Dumbartonshire

I can fully see why the SNP would want to target this seat but their vote share there went down 10%at the last GE with a swing from SNP to LD of 7.2%. It is certainly a heavy EU Remain area.

Oh come on mate your better, much better than that in fact. Picking up people for spelling or grammar is poor.

[lord bunberry]

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Yip. I don’t think any of the Lib Dem seats in Scotland are on the SNP target list. Outside chance maybe Edinburgh West but the fact Lib Dem’s are solid remain and are up in the polls suggests they will hang to what they have. Top targets are all Labour and Tory.


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Shetland has long been a target.

[Mibbes Aye]

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Oh come on mate your better, much better than that in fact. Picking up people for spelling or grammar is poor.

Come on yourself. It’s not really about spelling, it is about glib lines that reflect a lack of care and misunderstanding of what is being represented. The people of West Duns and East Duns are likely bored to death with people calling them Dumbartonshire. They aren’t called Dumbartonshire. Sure enough if Boris or Jacob was coming out with something like that, there would be a ton of criticism from the usual suspects on here, saying it was insult to the people of Scotland.......

[lord bunberry]

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Come on yourself. It’s not really about spelling, it is about glib lines that reflect a lack of care and misunderstanding of what is being represented. The people of West Duns and East Duns are likely bored to death with people calling them Dumbartonshire. They aren’t called Dumbartonshire. Sure enough if Boris or Jacob was coming out with something like that, there would be a ton of criticism from the usual suspects on here, saying it was insult to the people of Scotland.......

It doesn’t deflect from the point that was being made though. If you know what the poster meant is it not bad patter to pull them up on a minor spelling mistake? I really enjoy the holy ground forum and as someone who takes a keen interest in politics, but maybe doesn’t have the intellectual know how of many people on here I like to think that I can still make a contribution. I do realise that you have a bit of a disagreement on most topics with the poster you quoted, but to pull them up for this sort of thing can discourage other less confident people from posting.

[Mibbes Aye]

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It doesn’t deflect from the point that was being made though. If you know what the poster meant is it not bad patter to pull them up on a minor spelling mistake? I really enjoy the holy ground forum and as someone who takes a keen interest in politics, but maybe doesn’t have the intellectual know how of many people on here I like to think that I can still make a contribution. I do realise that you have a bit of a disagreement on most topics with the poster you quoted, but to pull them up for this sort of thing can discourage other less confident people from posting.

In fairness I pulled the poster up about a ‘throw it out there’, ‘I heard.....’ completely unsubstantiated comment about the Tories in East Duns. And I posted detail of what had happened there in 2017, which was the gist of the post.

It is mildly amusing that you are defending a poster who has been accused by more than one of the rest of us, of blatant sexism and targeting women MPs for insults and abuse. But not defending the poster against that, just defending them about not knowing what constituency they are talking about. Priorities eh?

[lord bunberry]

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In fairness I pulled the poster up about a ‘throw it out there’, ‘I heard.....’ completely unsubstantiated comment about the Tories in East Duns. And I posted detail of what had happened there in 2017, which was the gist of the post.

It is mildly amusing that you are defending a poster who has been accused by more than one of the rest of us, of blatant sexism and targeting women MPs for insults and abuse. But not defending the poster against that, just defending them about not knowing what constituency they are talking about. Priorities eh?

I’d like it to be made 100% clear I wasn’t defending anyone. I was making a general point about pulling people up for spelling or grammar mistakes. I said in my initial post that you’re better than that, and by that I meant you are more than capable of getting your point of view across without resorting to picking people up on their grammar. When you pull someone up who normally has good grammar for a small mistake it means very little but it sometimes discourages people like me who maybe don’t have the best grammar, but would still like to contribute to the debate.

[marinello59]

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I'm hearing that the tories are to step aside in East Dumbartonshire to help out their ally Jo Swinson.

Source?

[Smartie]

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Oh come on mate your better, much better than that in fact. Picking up people for spelling or grammar is poor.

MA and Fife have a bit of a “thing” going.

I like MA and don’t think he’d pull anyone else up for a minor spelling mistake that many people would make.

The pair of them dish it out to each other and seem ok at taking it in return.

Get in between them at your peril..........

[Moulin Yarns]

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Come on yourself. It’s not really about spelling, it is about glib lines that reflect a lack of care and misunderstanding of what is being represented. The people of West Duns and East Duns are likely bored to death with people calling them Dumbartonshire. They aren’t called Dumbartonshire. Sure enough if Boris or Jacob was coming out with something like that, there would be a ton of criticism from the usual suspects on here, saying it was insult to the people of Scotland.......

OK. My turn, East and West Duns are 2 halves of a town in Berwickshire and is held by John Lamont for the Conservatives.
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[Pretty Boy]

I feel truly sorry for the satirists, this election is threatening their livelihoods.

When someone with the politics of Andrew Neil sees the Tories as an open goal and gets one of their MPs to say he 'doesn't know' if Jeremy Corbyn would have wealthy people shot then you know we are through the looking glass.

[heretoday]

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I feel truly sorry for the satirists, this election is threatening their livelihoods.

When someone with the politics of Andrew Neil sees the Tories as an open goal and gets one of their MPs to say he 'doesn't know' if Jeremy Corbyn would have wealthy people shot then you know we are through the looking glass.

It's started early. Apparently, I'm considering voting for a Stalinist anti-Semite. Gosh. Well, at least he should get the trains running on time.

[Ozyhibby]

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It's started early. Apparently, I'm considering voting for a Stalinist anti-Semite. Gosh. Well, at least he should get the trains running on time.

Doubtful.


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[lapsedhibee]

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It's started early. Apparently, I'm considering voting for a Stalinist anti-Semite. Gosh. Well, at least he should get the trains running on time.

Wasn't that Mussolini's thing? Stalin was more tractors and light bulbs, no?

[weecounty hibby]

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Wasn't that Mussolini's thing? Stalin was more tractors and light bulbs, no?

Not sure Mussolini did get the trains running in time. It was just that everyone was afraid to complain for fear of being shot!

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[cabbageandribs1875]

quite a big turnout






then again

[JeMeSouviens]

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quite a big turnout






then again

The weird thing about these huddles-in-a-hangar is that the broadcasters all go along with them unquestioningly. It's bizarre.

[Ozyhibby]

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The weird thing about these huddles-in-a-hangar is that the broadcasters all go along with them unquestioningly. It's bizarre.

It’s how they maintain access. It’s the same in football. Most sports journalism here is just reporters telling the fans what the club want them to hear. No different in politics.


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[Fife-Hibee]

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Come on yourself. It’s not really about spelling, it is about glib lines that reflect a lack of care and misunderstanding of what is being represented. The people of West Duns and East Duns are likely bored to death with people calling them Dumbartonshire. They aren’t called Dumbartonshire. Sure enough if Boris or Jacob was coming out with something like that, there would be a ton of criticism from the usual suspects on here, saying it was insult to the people of Scotland.......

Difference is. Boris Johnson and Jacob Rees Mogg would do it intentionally. Politicians that are prepared to blame victims of a burning building for listening to the government funded fire service personnel should give you a good insight into their mental state.

Not surprised to see you talking about them as if they're somehow the victims though.

[Fife-Hibee]

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quite a big turnout






then again

I swear, that party is nothing more than rent-a-crowds with a very compliant media to make them appear more popular than they really are. We see this example time and time again.

[Moulin Yarns]

BBC lunchtime news actually took the figures that John McDonnell said that Labour would spend if elected and broke them down to how long the extra would run the NHS for. I don't think I've ever seen a broadcaster ever tear apart a speech so fully before. I wonder what they will say about the tory lie about building 30 'new' hospitals?

[marinello59]

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BBC lunchtime news actually took the figures that John McDonnell said that Labour would spend if elected and broke them down to how long the extra would run the NHS for. I don't think I've ever seen a broadcaster ever tear apart a speech so fully before. I wonder what they will say about the tory lie about building 30 'new' hospitals?

I saw a ‘fact check’ they ran on Boris yesterday. He didn’t come out of it well.

[Fife-Hibee]

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BBC lunchtime news actually took the figures that John McDonnell said that Labour would spend if elected and broke them down to how long the extra would run the NHS for. I don't think I've ever seen a broadcaster ever tear apart a speech so fully before. I wonder what they will say about the tory lie about building 30 'new' hospitals?

40? If they're saying 30 now, at least they're getting closer to the handful of refurbs they're actually doing.

[SHODAN]

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BJ going full Trump now. Did anyone just see that rally he did tonight with all the people behind him waiving banners, it was like an American presidential rally.

Didn't Kinnock try something like that in 1992 and it spectacularly ****ed up?

[southsider]

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40? If they're saying 30 now, at least they're getting closer to the handful of refurbs they're actually doing.

A bit like the tens of thousands of affordable homes to be built there in reality there has not been one brick laid. Johnston is a liar and a Putin spy - he even has a Russian name.

[JeMeSouviens]

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Didn't Kinnock try something like that in 1992 and it spectacularly ****ed up?

Yes, he did a cringe-fest in an arena, Sheffield I think. It was a real full-house crowd though.

[marinello59]

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BBC lunchtime news actually took the figures that John McDonnell said that Labour would spend if elected and broke them down to how long the extra would run the NHS for. I don't think I've ever seen a broadcaster ever tear apart a speech so fully before. I wonder what they will say about the tory lie about building 30 'new' hospitals?

I saw a ‘fact check’ they ran on Boris yesterday. He didn’t come out of it well.