Hibs transfer rumours

[MSK]

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If a manager came in from Germany, Holland, Italy or Spain, then of course fans would be more excited and positive than if you appoint a manager from the Irish League who starts signing players who have played there. It's not so much a case of people being anti-Irish, more the case that if you have come in, like Fenlon, and gotten off to a poor start as manager, and then sign players from a country that isn't producing many good players at the moment, of course fans are going to be negative and mention the common-link at some point.

If we were winning games, nobody would even bring it up.

Who has Fenlon signed from the Irish leagues ..?...Doyle was direct from Irish football but others have been signed/loaned from English championship teams ..

[number9dream]

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If a manager came in from Germany, Holland, Italy or Spain, then of course fans would be more excited and positive than if you appoint a manager from the Irish League who starts signing players who have played there. It's not so much a case of people being anti-Irish, more the case that if you have come in, like Fenlon, and gotten off to a poor start as manager, and then sign players from a country that isn't producing many good players at the moment, of course fans are going to be negative and mention the common-link at some point.

If we were winning games, nobody would even bring it up.

A manager from one of those countries might have a basic grasp of tactics and a eye for a player. PF quite clearly has neither...

[MrSmith]

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Strange statement.

Historically the Scots or Scotti where settlers from Ireland who set up home in our fine land becoming the Land of the Scots or Scot's Land finally Scotland.

Here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scoti
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Scotland

[Leishy1995]

Accidentally started a debate as to whether fenlon only brings in Irish players. Has he any history with Deegan?

[MSK]

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Accidentally started a debate as to whether fenlon only brings in Irish players. Has he any history with Deegan?

Jeezo ..yer right facinated wi Fenlon & Irish players ...

Griffiths, Cairney, Kujabi & Williams are NOT Irish ..so thats your theory blown right oot the windae ...

[BT58]

bohemians manager and the guy played for him,,,i think
bt

[The Falcon]

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A manager from one of those countries might have a basic grasp of tactics and a eye for a player. PF quite clearly has neither...

We could have appointed a tried and tested SPL manager like Jimmy Calderwood but I recall that suggestion didnt go down too well on here.

[PatHead]

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We could have appointed a tried and tested SPL manager like Jimmy Calderwood but I recall that suggestion didnt go down too well on here.

Would rather Rangers were in the SPL than Jimmy Calderwood was our manager.

[Northernhibee]

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A manager from one of those countries might have a basic grasp of tactics and a eye for a player. PF quite clearly has neither...

McPake, Williams and Cairney so far. Doyle looked good when he get the ball to feet. Clancy will grow in that role.

Either you're trolling or you can't spot a player.

:giruy:

[FranckSuzy]

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Historically the Scots or Scotti where settlers from Ireland who set up home in our fine land becoming the Land of the Scots or Scot's Land finally Scotland.

Here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scoti
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Scotland

Ah yes, that esteemed, evidenced-based tome of knowledge

[MrSmith]

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Ah yes, that esteemed, evidenced-based tome of knowledge

Oh yes!

here:

http://www.archaeology.org/0107/abstracts/scotland.html
http://www.electricscotland.com/hist...scotsirish.htm

in contrast here:

http://irishtribesman.blogspot.co.uk...m-ireland.html


In the middle here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/educat...ckground.shtml

[Latapy1911]

Didn't know Hasselbank signed for St.Johnstone, always rated him :\

[Leishy1995]

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Jeezo ..yer right facinated wi Fenlon & Irish players ...

Griffiths, Cairney, Kujabi & Williams are NOT Irish ..so thats your theory blown right oot the windae ...

I know I know. I'm not sure anyone could successfully argue he has only signed Irish players.

[Ozyhibby]

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Would rather Rangers were in the SPL than Jimmy Calderwood was our manager.

That's the last thing we need at Hibs is someone with his level of success.
Top 4 finishes every year, last 32 of Europa cup against Bayern Munich.
Definitely don't want any of that carry on round here. Much better to muddle on with the likes of Fenlon.
I sometimes think some folk prefer us to be crap.

[Eyrie]

Randomly interrupting the thread to drag it back on topic, but any word on Maybury or Forsyth signing for us?

[Emerald]

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That's the last thing we need at Hibs is someone with his level of success.
Top 4 finishes every year, last 32 of Europa cup against Bayern Munich.
Definitely don't want any of that carry on round here. Much better to muddle on with the likes of Fenlon.
I sometimes think some folk prefer us to be crap.

Whilst I wouldn't have been jumping for joy at the time if Hibs had gone for Fat Jimmy, I totally agree with your comments. I remember Gordon Strachan once being asked what makes a good manager and he said "experience", not that he is the great oracle or anything but he should know better than most. Having managed, been managed and played for top teams in England and Scotland. PF had no experience of either managing or playing at anything like this level and it surprises me where people got their optimism from. I hope he can still turn the corner because I think this is it, take it or leave it.

[c31]

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That's the last thing we need at Hibs is someone with his level of success.
Top 4 finishes every year, last 32 of Europa cup against Bayern Munich.
Definitely don't want any of that carry on round here. Much better to muddle on with the likes of Fenlon.
I sometimes think some folk prefer us to be crap.

Not long till the AGM - he might be in with a shout if our current manager continues his embarrassing attempt at getting us to play something that looks like football.

[gegs70]

I dont think its all the managers fault.

We dont pay the wages to sign good players. How much waa Sauzee on 10k?

We really need to get a 2-3 good experienced players or we will be relegated! We play stephens at cebtre half but have experience in ohanlon. We lose oconnor our top scorer but dont replace him. We get rid of osbourne and put cairnie in his place....we still dont have a midfld. It aint looking gdand even the manager has said as much. We look worse than last season!!!

[gegs70]

should have added hope im wrong....

[Emerald]

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I dont think its all the managers fault.

We dont pay the wages to sign good players. How much waa Sauzee on 10k?

We really need to get a 2-3 good experienced players or we will be relegated! We play stephens at cebtre half but have experience in ohanlon. We lose oconnor our top scorer but dont replace him. We get rid of osbourne and put cairnie in his place....we still dont have a midfld. It aint looking gdand even the manager has said as much. We look worse than last season!!!

Its never just one persons fault and yes we are worse than last year. However, why don't we forget Hibs budget and get Fenlon to work with St Mirren's, Motherwell's or Dundee Utd's budget and see how he likes that? Worth a thought?

[gegs70]

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Its never just one persons fault and yes we are worse than last year. However, why don't we forget Hibs budget and get Fenlon to work with St Mirren's, Motherwell's or Dundee Utd's budget and see how he likes that? Worth a thought?

Yep I agree

But they seem to manage to get better players through the door. Hasselbnk was a decentvplayer but went to st johnstone? Hayes went to Aberdeen?

[Rambo1875]

Don't post very often at all but I think people need to take a step back. PF has been given very little financial backing yet the expectation is for him to have completely transformed the team that ended the season - mission impossible. We were terrible today and PF knows that. Surely now Petrie will see that if he doesn't invest he will lose a considerable amount via tickets when we are playing first division football next term.

Also think PF has to turn to youth. Why not throw Smith in at LB? Play Stanton? Granted we need a target man and a winger, but I think it's time for us to all stand together.

GGTTH.

[silverhibee]

In Pat wee Trust.

[Dinkydoo]

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Don't post very often at all but I think people need to take a step back. PF has been given very little financial backing yet the expectation is for him to have completely transformed the team that ended the season - mission impossible. We were terrible today and PF knows that. Surely now Petrie will see that if he doesn't invest he will lose a considerable amount via tickets when we are playing first division football next term.

Also think PF has to turn to youth. Why not throw Smith in at LB? Play Stanton? Granted we need a target man and a winger, but I think it's time for us to all stand together.

GGTTH.

Well said.

[GGTTH07]

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In Pat wee Trust.

I don't have trust in pat at all now.

[whiskyhibby]

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Yep I agree

But they seem to manage to get better players through the door. Hasselbnk was a decentvplayer but went to st johnstone? Hayes went to Aberdeen?

Maybe it's to do with the fans and atmosphere at Easter Road, funny how none of the players we have signed are from the SPL even although we have been in for them

[BEEJ]

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Maybe it's to do with the fans and atmosphere at Easter Road, funny how none of the players we have signed are from the SPL even although we have been in for them

[cough] Clancy

[YehButNoBut]

Thought I'd post a rumour on here...............just to be different likes.

According to Agent Scotland on twitter we are back in for Cillian Sheridan.

[Barney McGrew]

It's a while since we were linked with Sandaza, but he's set to sign for Sevco for £5k a week. After tax.

They're still trying to tie up Beattie and Kevin Kyle too.

[Hibs7]

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It's a while since we were linked with Sandaza, but he's set to sign for Sevco for £5k a week. After tax.

They're still trying to tie up Beattie and Kevin Kyle too.

They shouldn't be allowed to sign anyone, talk about the SPL being unfair the third division will be a mockery, SFL and SPL have a lot to answer for.