Hibs transfer rumours

[Beefster]

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If anyone is worried about the lack of signing news, it should be pointed out that we could have announced any free agent or pre-contract player by now but anyone that we're after/ we've signed, who starts work for us once their contract is up at their current employer can't (or shouldn't) be announced until July 1st, at the earliest.

Therefore, this either means that we've got nothing or that the players we're going for already have deals which are expiring at other clubs; which Cairney and Clancy certainly have.

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Donaldson was announced as a pre-contract.

As was Kerr AND Sproule.

So we may have made agreements with players for them to become future employees but not asked them to sign anything? That's a risky change in policy and means that we haven't actually signed anyone.

[BEEJ]

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Donaldson was announced as a pre-contract.

As was Kerr AND Sproule.

I obviously then haven't understood your earlier post.

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If anyone is worried about the lack of signing news, it should be pointed out that we could have announced any free agent or pre-contract player by now but anyone that we're after/ we've signed, who starts work for us once their contract is up at their current employer can't (or shouldn't) be announced until July 1st, at the earliest.

Therefore, this either means that we've got nothing or that the players we're going for already have deals which are expiring at other clubs; which Cairney and Clancy certainly have.

Do the bits in bold not describe a pre-contract scenario?

[Speedway]

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I obviously then haven't understood your earlier post.



Do the bits in bold not describe a pre-contract scenario?

A pre-contract agreement is not the same as signing a contract which begins on a specified date, despite how similar they are.

[paul_hfc3]

Anyway enough on the Yams Finances... Jonny Hayes are we after him or not?

[IWasThere2016]

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I was more stunned with the we offer 6 grand as our top line comment tbh.

Yup - apologies but the whole of his post is nonsense.

[Aldo]

Most teams have a basic wage plus add ons. Ie. appearances goals win bonus.

2.5 basic plus add ons bout right.

O and as fur Hayes. If he wants to come fine if he hums and haws and is after more money GTF. You either want to play for us or you don't.

I only want guys who want to give their all for Hibs. ENDOF

[Piqué]

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Anyway enough on the Yams Finances... Jonny Hayes are we after him or not?

He has said on twitter he won't be signing for hibs

[HoboHarry]

It amazes me how many posters actually bring figures into their posts. Where does this information come from? I can't help thinking for example that the only people who know what James McPake has been offered are Petrie, Fenlon, the agent and Mr and Mrs McPake. Everyone else I imagine is simply making stuff up. Unless they claim to have a friend "in the know" of course. Ahem.....

[Andy74]

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He has said on twitter he won't be signing for hibs

I also doubt we've been in for him which is why he is so sure.

[Billychaotic182]

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I also doubt we've been in for him which is why he is so sure.

Am amazed about how many player we are linked with that nothing ever comes out it.

[greenginger]

The yams wages costs (excluding social security costs ) to June 2011 was £ 8,186,000 for 152 staff and, as the great majority are admins, ground staff and U/19's on not much more than the minimum, say average £ 20,000 for 136 of the staff would cost £3.65 million leaving £4.53 million to pay the remaining 16 high earners.

That would evenly divide into weekly wages of £ 5,445 each, but obviously some are higher and some are lower.

That is why I was banging on about Skacel's basic wage reported in his Court Case with his Agent as £ 3000 a week. I hope once the Forensic Accountants are finished with the Huns they will have time to inquire into the PBS Yamonomics.

[GordonHFC]

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Am amazed about how many player we are linked with that nothing ever comes out it.

I think that this is where the myth that so many players didn't/refused to come to hibs comes from as we can't be certain that we have ever approached them in the first place.

[The Sea-gull]

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I think that this is where the myth that so many players didn't/refused to come to hibs comes from as we can't be certain that we have ever approached them in the first place.

Exactly, being interested in a player is not the same as making an offer or having talks. Being "interested" may just mean that an agent or a journo has asked if we are interested and we say yes he is one of the players on our list of players we are interested in and giving an approach some thought. Doesn't mean that approach is ever made.

May even sometimes just be that agents and journos find out we are looking for a winger, he is out of contract and 2 and 2 is put together.

I think there has been enough whispers and comments to say that we do/did have some sort of direct interest in JH but there doesn't seem to be any reports or quotes from the player, Hibs (though Hibs never comment pubically on players they are interested in), his agent or even media stating that he has had talks with us or any offer was made.

As aside, though I completely understand Hibs policy on not discussing signings before they are made, it would be nice once in a while to hear the manager say that he tried to get player X or player Y but was unable to agree terms. Not saying we need to hear about every failed deal but the odd bit of info would be decent. I think we could all accept that we are not going to land every target but it would good if we see some indication of the level of player we have at least thought about.

I can't think of a time when anyone connected with Hibs has commented about anything in that way. I'm not talking about the manager mouthing off all the time about players he is interested in like Jimmy Calderwood, Mark McGhee, Craig Brown and FJK do but a little bit of infor for fans and some transparency from the club would be good.

It is not like our hush hush policy has paid dividends in terms of gems being unearthed and massive coups being made in recent times.

[H18sry]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18318426

[California-Hibs]

Would love it if we managed to get the Lithuanian winger onboard! Spoke to a few people who have seen him play and hes ment to be a really decent player. I also like what ive saw myself from his youtube clips, fast and direct! We haven't had a proper winger at Easter Road for years! A few of the Bohemians lads who post on here were giving him rave reviews too if I recall. Heres hoping something happens with this one! :)

[The Tubs]

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18318426

I dunno how good a player he is, but we definitely need more potential captains.

[DC_Hibs]

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18318426

Thought he'd signed for ICT a while back.

[H18sry]

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Thought he'd signed for ICT a while back.

Aye duff info oops
Warren ready for Caley switch

Inverness manager Terry Butcher will start his rebuilding for next season by signing Newport County captain Gary Warren.
The 27-year-old defender is available on a free transfer after turning down a new contract offer at the English Conference club.
Warren was also a target for Cheltenham Town, but the centre-back has opted to make the switch to Caley Thistle instead.
Newport director football, Tim Harris reckons the move to the Highlands was too good for Warren to turn down.
"While we are disappointed for ourselves we are over the moon for Gary," Harris said.
"This is a huge move for him, to play in the top tier of Scottish football, and we feel proud of him after he's been such a colossal player for us over the years."

[Famous5forever]

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That's a senior goalie, five defenders, two midfielders, and two strikers. Ten players in all. That's what we need to replace, and even then, as you say, there are players still in the squad who hardly inspire confidence.

Paddy will still need to empty the last of the dross thats a good start though and id still expect more to get us properly motoring:pfgwa

[Hibernia Na Eir]

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Mentally and physically the way Galbraith plays is absolutley "powderpuff". He's played 63 games for Hibs (wikipedia) and I'd say you'd be pushing it to say he's played well in even a handful.

But, aye you're right, Hibs Football Clubs inadequacies in finding and developing a new generation of talented footballers is because I call a guy, who's had a great opportunity in football, "powderpuff".

Have to agree. Passed DG in Asda last year and couldnt believe he was an SPL player. Looked more like a lanky schoolboy (no offence meant).

[Billychaotic182]

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Have to agree. Passed DG in Asda last year and couldnt believe he was an SPL player. Looked more like a lanky schoolboy (no offence meant).

I imaging hibs are doing things to change this as I remember an interview with Doyle and he said that the manager has made him hit the gym more to bulk up. I'd hope the same advice was giving to DG

[SMAXXA]

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Have to agree. Passed DG in Asda last year and couldnt believe he was an SPL player. Looked more like a lanky schoolboy (no offence meant).

If thats what you call lanky you must be 3 feet tall, last I seen him on George Street with a bird shopping he was small to average.

[Gez1875]

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Do you mean per annum or per week?

Ian Black was on £2200 per week at Tynecastle.

7 years ago we where giving about 2 grand a week, we have increased our wage bill every year since then, this is of course not a basic wage but the top end eg win bonuses, goal bonuses and appearance fees you have to consider these things when running a business like a football club, maybe black wasnt on as much but skacel was not a kick in the backside off 10 grand a week.

[SMAXXA]

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Do you mean per annum or per week?

Ian Black was on £2200 per week at Tynecastle.

2600

[Holmesdale Hibs]

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i think we are able to offer beteween 4 and 6 thousand a player, and black and skacel would have been on i would imagine 10 grandish, we wont be beat to a player because someones offering 2 grand, if we want him we can better that.

Can't see Black earning anything like that. Firstly, because he's not that good and secondly there's no chance he'd have been taking on painting jobs with an annual salary of over £1m.

Having said that, I've heard some stories (mainly on here) about jambo wages and the £35m+ debt has to be spent somewhere.

Crazy to think that top 4 premiership sides will have players on the bench that get paid more than our entire squad.

[Northern Hibby]

Johnny Hayes on Twitter: hopefully I can tell people tomorr!

[BEEJ]

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As aside, though I completely understand Hibs policy on not discussing signings before they are made, it would be nice once in a while to hear the manager say that he tried to get player X or player Y but was unable to agree terms. Not saying we need to hear about every failed deal but the odd bit of info would be decent. I think we could all accept that we are not going to land every target but it would good if we see some indication of the level of player we have at least thought about.

I can't think of a time when anyone connected with Hibs has commented about anything in that way. I'm not talking about the manager mouthing off all the time about players he is interested in like Jimmy Calderwood, Mark McGhee, Craig Brown and FJK do but a little bit of infor for fans and some transparency from the club would be good.

Do you mean like our reported bid for Naismith when he was at Killie? Or Sheridan last summer who then went to St Johnstone?

Or Jim Goodwin who elected to stay at St Mirren in January?

[Iceman1875]

I doubt very much black is on anywhere near 2k per week.... He's rocking about in a 9 year old 3 series Beemer, if he was earning 6k a month after deductions and such like I would suspect he would be driving something more desireable than a 7k BMW....

[CB_NO3]

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I doubt very much black is on anywhere near 2k per week.... He's rocking about in a 9 year old 3 series Beemer, if he was earning 6k a month after deductions and such like I would suspect he would be driving something more desireable than a 7k BMW....

Black was on 10k a month.

[Dashing Bob S]

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Can't see Black earning anything like that. Firstly, because he's not that good and secondly there's no chance he'd have been taking on painting jobs with an annual salary of over £1m.

Having said that, I've heard some stories (mainly on here) about jambo wages and the £35m+ debt has to be spent somewhere.

Crazy to think that top 4 premiership sides will have players on the bench that get paid more than our entire squad.

I agree with your point in general, though perhaps, given last season and last 3 years in general, our squad might not be the best example to use.