Thanks for clarifying, i wasnt aware that the clubs you mention have a similar churn. Perhaps thats (from my point of view) a collective failing of football clubs in general, of a congenital lack of patience rather than a Hibs specific thing. You must confess though, that the absence of one single manager to stay at our club for more than 2 and a half years iver such a long period, almost 25 years, is a bit unusual? And the regularity with which the season and a half window seems to appear. Nothing sustained will ever be created in that length of time.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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15-04-2024 05:30 PM #61
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15-04-2024 05:39 PM #62This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote"There's class, there's first class and there's Hibs class" - Eddie Turnbull
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15-04-2024 05:41 PM #63This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Not many managers will last 2.5 years in a job now for various reasons.
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15-04-2024 05:44 PM #64
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I still think it’s fairly telling that these clubs all have longer term appointments and the common denominator is that it was all with managers who delivered a degree of success from the off and sustained it. That’s what will be required if you want to be a long term success at Hibs and the evidence is there with clubs our size that the managers who come in and do well over sustained periods will always start off well. Out of 60 managers between the 4 clubs this century, none of us can point to a single manager that started slowly (I’m talking majority of a season slowly, not 3 or 4 games slowly) and grew into the role. It doesn’t really happen.
Obviously it can be argued whether it’s a collective football issue or not, but it’s definitely not a Hibs specific issue. We’re no worse than most others and there’s no way it’ll put managers off the job for that reason.Last edited by Stubbsy90+2; 15-04-2024 at 07:21 PM.
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15-04-2024 08:24 PM #65
There isn’t much to be said at this stage, when the season is still ongoing. We might well hear something at the end of the season regarding an assessment and an intention to improve etc. We will have to wait and see.
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16-04-2024 10:54 AM #66This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Far better to have a group in the LC to get things up and running before the league starts. Because the fact is we have gone backwards and if fixing it means a new manager and about 6 new first team players , then walking before you learn to run would probably be advisable.
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16-04-2024 09:10 PM #67This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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16-04-2024 09:18 PM #68
The powers that be havent realised yet what this means. In England for instance finishing 7th probably means a Conference or even Europa cup spot. Its been a good season back slaps and cherry coke all round.
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16-04-2024 09:26 PM #69This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote"We know the people who have invested so far are simple fans." Vladimir Romanov - Scotsman 10th December 2012
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16-04-2024 09:29 PM #70
Boom/bust over incremental improvement - arguably Ross looking at subsequent backing and funding - would have grounds to feel aggrieved. He was steady as she goes building foundations -called out the recruitment needs. Then the wheels came off…
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16-04-2024 09:31 PM #71This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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16-04-2024 09:34 PM #72This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
You take the wins all day long, but it was weird, a 1-0 win felt like a defeat, it was like a psycological experiment on misery
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17-04-2024 04:33 AM #73This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
we’re turning into Aberdeen."We know the people who have invested so far are simple fans." Vladimir Romanov - Scotsman 10th December 2012
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17-04-2024 06:20 AM #74
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17-04-2024 06:24 AM #75This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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17-04-2024 06:30 AM #76This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I want to watch an entertaining Hibs side but that comes in various forms. I want us to play with energy, aggression and intensity, I want us to play on the front foot trying to dominate games, I want to see exciting players, I want to see us score loads of goals, if we go one up I want us to go for a 2nd and then a 3rd, then a 4th, not just try to see the game out, I want to see young players coming through that we can relate to and then sell on for a big profit.
All of the above can be achieved by playing route one football to a big target man and winning second balls. If we do that effectively it’ll be good to watch and entertaining, that’s fine with me!
I literally never see anybody asking to play ‘the Hibs way’ or with ‘free flowing football’, nothing wrong with wanting to enjoy the experience of going to watch Hibs though and caring a bit more than the end result.
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17-04-2024 06:49 AM #77This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I do think it’s a reflection on Scottish football that we seemed deemed to times and repeats with the managers seemingly having to know the Scottihs game. I’m not too sure how open to innovation we are. Proof is in the pudding tho - few foreign managers outside of the OF have made an impact."We know the people who have invested so far are simple fans." Vladimir Romanov - Scotsman 10th December 2012
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17-04-2024 06:57 AM #78This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I want to believe winning football and attractive football can be achieved together, that it’s not one or other. I’d like to see us go for Mcinnes too. I think people are put off by the latter part of his time with Aberdeen, where it was industrial and cynical but it wasn’t always like that. I don’t think Killie are horrible to watch under him either.
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NM in charge of Stubbs and Lennons teams when we were good, and I’d say we’d still be good to watch.
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