First half pen claim

[Centre Hawf]

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Ah ok.

I saw Triantis head the ball clear last week at Ibrox and bang into Souttar but that was a penalty. Oh well

I didn't think that was a penalty either, like most of us said at the time.

[DaveF]

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I didn't think that was a penalty either, like most of us said at the time.

You might not, but the officials at Ibrox did, yet took the opposite view today. And some still argue it's all just inconsistency 🙄

[Centre Hawf]

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You might not, but the officials at Ibrox did, yet took the opposite view today. And some still argue it's all just inconsistency 🙄

I'm not really saying anything on the inconsistency/bias/corruption stuff as it's a different discussion. My opinion is just that it wasn't a penalty as I think the keeper gets ball before man.

[Northernhibee]

The slomo on Sportscene couldn’t make it clearer. Corrupt again,

[Halifaxhibby]

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Anyone not at the game who's seen it on technology say if it was a decent shout? Looked it at the time in the ground...

I think we’re clutching at straws with var….marshall did worse against miovski, we got away with that, got a second chance at ipox, bottom line is we are not good enough…

[DaveF]

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I think we’re clutching at straws with var….marshall did worse against miovski, we got away with that, got a second chance at ipox, bottom line is we are not good enough…

WTF? Marshall clearly won the ball in that game.

[JimBHibees]

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Said it on another thread, David Munro involved again (was VAR today). He doesn’t like us. The most blatant handball you’ll see, 10 yards from him at Pittodrie, not given. The invention of 7 minute and the throw in decision in the 8th minute of those 7 up at Ross County. Then that today, when he’s had the chance to look at it. Absolutely ridiculous.

Yes very coincidental

[Geo_1875]

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Not necessarily. There is definite evidence of bad decision making, but not corruption. Even being deliberate is not necessarily corruption. There is no evidence it’s deliberate either by the way b

So what in your opinion would need to be involved to make it corruption? We've seen countless decisions go against Hibs and not just since the introduction of Video Assistance for Rangers. Having watched Hibs for around 60 years the last 20 or so have seen referees clear agenda against us. Players booked for their first foul while opponents regularly get a free pass. Players sent off for kicking the ball at an opponent during open play. Players hounded out of the country for tackling a Rangers player at Ibrox. It's either corruption or they've still got a huge chip on their shoulders about Scott Brown going to Celtic.

[hibsbollah]

Theres a whiff of yamfuddery about.

[Geo_1875]

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Marcondes gets the ball first but he headers it onto the keepers hand, who then takes Marcondes after he's touched it. The key being he touches the ball first before Marcondes. If he came rushing out to block a shot and took the man in the process after doing so that wouldn't be a penalty either.

Does the rules about excessive force, being out of control or endangering an opponent nit apply to goalkeepers?

[A Hi-Bee]

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Said it on another thread, David Munro involved again (was VAR today). He doesn’t like us. The most blatant handball you’ll see, 10 yards from him at Pittodrie, not given. The invention of 7 minute and the throw in decision in the 8th minute of those 7 up at Ross County. Then that today, when he’s had the chance to look at it. Absolutely ridiculous.

Him, along with a few others of his club do not like us, and they are in a position to hurt us, game after game.
In saying that if we played good enough then it would make things difficult for them.

[Centre Hawf]

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Does the rules about excessive force, being out of control or endangering an opponent nit apply to goalkeepers?

They usually are a bit of a protected species in this sport to be fair.

[Cammy]

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I think we’re clutching at straws with var….marshall did worse against miovski, we got away with that, got a second chance at ipox, bottom line is we are not good enough…

[Geo_1875]

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They usually are a bit of a protected species in this sport to be fair.

He was certainly protected today.

[LaMotta]

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Thought at the time the keeper got to the ball1st but that shows it’s a clear pen & possibility a red card.
Never heard NM interview after the match but he should be calling that decision out

He should be calling it out. But he's failed to call out shocking decisions properly since he arrived. Another reason why he isnt fit to be Hibs manager.

[LaMotta]

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I'm not really saying anything on the inconsistency/bias/corruption stuff as it's a different discussion. My opinion is just that it wasn't a penalty as I think the keeper gets ball before man.

The keeper doesn't get the ball today though - he's nowhere near it.

[babahibs]

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Theres a whiff of yamfuddery about.

Sure is

[Centre Hawf]

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The keeper doesn't get the ball today though - he's nowhere near it.

I’m willing to admit there’s every chance I’m wrong here. But if you take it frame by frame i think Marcondes headers it onto his hand as he comes in.

[JimBHibees]

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I’m willing to admit there’s every chance I’m wrong here. But if you take it frame by frame i think Marcondes headers it onto his hand as he comes in.

That is what i thought from the angle the ball then goes

[Glory Lurker]

Absolute shocker. It's all about whether a foul was committed. Head punched, side kneed. Penalty and red card.

[Stubbsy90+2]

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I’m willing to admit there’s every chance I’m wrong here. But if you take it frame by frame i think Marcondes headers it onto his hand as he comes in.

I thought the same. The keeper gets a touch on the ball. Whether it’s enough is another argument. But I don’t think it’s the shocker folk are making it out to be.

[Glory Lurker]

And let's add on the pulls on Maolida when he went down in the second half. Not even looked at.

[Glory Lurker]

Porto got the ball at Ibrox.

[JohnM1875]

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I thought the same. The keeper gets a touch on the ball. Whether it’s enough is another argument. But I don’t think it’s the shocker folk are making it out to be.

It is an absolute shocker. Marcondes gets to the ball first and wins it. Any other touch that happens after that point is kind of irrelevant.

Its reckless from the keeper and is a pen all day long.

[Baader]

Clear penalty. Can't understand what anyone on here who thinks it isn't is actually seeing? So blatant.

[Stubbsy90+2]

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It is an absolute shocker. Marcondes gets to the ball first and wins it. Any other touch that happens after that point is kind of irrelevant.

Its reckless from the keeper and is a pen all day long.

Not necessarily. Put the ball on the ground for example. If a forward gets a touch on the ball whilst trying to round the keeper and then the keeper gets a touch the catches the forward, I’m not sure that makes it a penalty. Just because it’s in the air I don’t think that changes.

[Stubbsy90+2]

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And let's add on the pulls on Maolida when he went down in the second half. Not even looked at.

That was never a pen.

[Glory Lurker]

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That was never a pen.

It was in the league cup final, and a good few other games this season. Whether it should be a pen is a different argument, but there's a pile of precedent in the Scottish VAR era to say it is.

[JohnM1875]

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Not necessarily. Put the ball on the ground for example. If a forward gets a touch on the ball whilst trying to round the keeper and then the keeper gets a touch the catches the forward, I’m not sure that makes it a penalty. Just because it’s in the air I don’t think that changes.

Eh? Of course it being in the air changes things. Why wouldn't it?

[Stubbsy90+2]

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Eh? Of course it being in the air changes things. Why wouldn't it?

It doesn’t change things at all in terms of if Marcondes gets something on it, then the goalkeeper gets something on it, then clatters Marcondes, it’s not a foul imo, exact same as it would be if it was on the ground.

I’d have been disappointed had that went against us.