The application of VAR for different clubs is a clear sign of corruption. We all know The Rangers would have been given that yesterday. That’s because they’re looking to give decisions for the rangers and Celtic but for other teams they are looking to avoid it at all costs.
I don’t know what we can do, VAR has made Scottish football even worse than it was before - particularly for us.
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Thread: First half pen claim
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07-04-2024 01:43 PM #121
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07-04-2024 02:10 PM #122
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Initial reaction was definitely a pen, having reviewed it several times, still definitely a pen
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Slow it right down - The keeper comes to punch away from the box but the ball goes up and behind him. If he had punched it it would have surely went away from goal.
Looks like the ball hits the top of Emi's head and the keeper then takes him out. Either way though you are right though its like they dont check things properly when we have a claim whilst they are desperate to find them for Rangers/Celtic.
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08-04-2024 09:31 AM #125
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I initially said I didn’t think it was a pen. Having watched it back, in slow motion, I’m now not sure either way. I still think it looks like the goalie gets something on it, mainly due to the way the ball spins up in the air.I don’t think it would come off Marcondes’ head like that and I think it would be much more likely that a sclaffed punch from the goalies fist would have it spinning the way it did. I’m trying to picture a ball dropping out the air, that’s not excessively spinning, winning a header in the way Marcondes has and how you’d go about getting the amount of spin onthe ball there ends up being without the goalie touching it. I’m not sure you could.
What I would say though is that if he’s got a touch on it and caused it to spin like that, he’s absolutely not caught it very cleanly and it’s likely nothing more than a slight touch.
If I was pushed to give the version of events that I think has unfolded, I’d probably go for Marcondes gets there first by the slightest of margins, his header is travelling towards goal for a matter of an inch or so and the goalie gets a sclaffed punch on it to make it spin up in the air. I’d say the goalie is probably a very lucky boy, but I still think if it was us, I’d be disappointed if it went against us and I’d be pointing to the goalie getting a touch as well.
Even at 0.25x speed though, it’s difficult to tell from that angle.Last edited by Stubbsy90+2; 08-04-2024 at 09:43 AM.
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08-04-2024 10:00 AM #126
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You are justifying us not getting it by slight possible touches of the ball etc- Johnson clearly got the ball first yesterday and yet the ref is sent to the screen indicating a clear and obvious error has taken place
It's another very obvious example of 2 tier referring
I'm literally struggling to think of any "could go either way decision by var that has went our way?
To be honest I don't even think that is a could go either way call, it's pretty obviously a foul by the keeper
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08-04-2024 10:16 AM #127
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Do you think the keeper got a touch? As I said, I’m now in the ‘not sure’ camp in terms of it being a penalty or not, it im still fairly certain the keeper gets something on it which many folk are insistent he didn’t. Whether it’s enough on it, or whether it should still be a pen as Marcondes beats him to it by a millisecond etc is another story and probably where the doubt creeps into my mind.
The keeper getting a touch is probably why I’d be disappointed if it went against us and is the reason I’d be saying it wasn’t a penalty. I’d be arguing it’s essentially a 50/50 and both players have got something on it.Last edited by Stubbsy90+2; 08-04-2024 at 10:22 AM.
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08-04-2024 10:48 AM #128
It should have been a penalty, that the referee want sent to look at it was ridiculous. It certainly feels like the referees have circled the wagons after some heat from us and they're trying to make sure we don't get ideas about doing it again.
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09-04-2024 04:03 PM #129
Craig levein said St Johnstone got away with one and Michael Stewart thought it was a penalty too.
The amount of decisions that have went against us this year is unbelievable. I do wonder what they've cost us in points this season.
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09-04-2024 04:33 PM #130
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I think over the last few days my position has reversed a little bit on the shout, after initially thinking it wasn't a penalty (primarily because I felt the keeper got the ball). But after all the uproar over the Silva penalty it seems most of my thoughts on why it wasn't a foul from Mitov don't really hold up to any scrutiny when you apply the laws the way they're explaining them post Sunday.
I think Liam it was on the DTS podcast summed it up quite well that it's another in a long list of marginal or 50/50 decisions that we're not getting and that's probably where more the frustration is lying in that we're not being refereed to the same standard as others are.
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09-04-2024 04:56 PM #131
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09-04-2024 05:01 PM #132
Just watched the , ahem, highlights. Slowed the penalty incident down to 0.25 and for me not seeing any doubt about it. No touch from the keeper, reckless challenge on Marcondes any way, keeper just jumps with the knee raised, straight into him. Marcondes was very lucky not to be hurt there.
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Compilation video would be a great idea btw . It's been unreal the amount we've had !.
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Contrast that to Hearts and the number of times they dig out something like Saturday, where a penalty and an OG was enough to get the win. Good fortune has been in short supply for us.
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Some folk would say you make your own luck which to a degree is true though I do think this year on occasions if it wasn't for bad luck we wouldn't have any ☹️ .
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10-04-2024 09:44 PM #138
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Watch the ALF penalty claim at 0.25 speed. Doesn't look offside and does look like he was fouled, The more I watch the Marcondes one the more it is a stonewaller, The Maolida one is a better shout for a penalty than half of those given against us this season too.
That is 3 credible claims for a pen in one game. They never looked at ALF's I dont think, not sure they looked at Maolida's and the one we are playing in super slow and taking a long time to decide on they dismissed fairly quickly. Is there some sort of rule that every possibility for a penalty against us and they will stop teh game for an age to see if there is an angle that supports and award. While if we have a fairly obvious claim it isn't even looked at or dismissed after one angle in real time.
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Makes you wonder why linesmen are still there.
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11-04-2024 08:15 AM #141
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That’s not to say you’re wrong in thinking it’s a pen. I’m still undecided. There’s little doubt in my mind the keeper makes contact with the ball though, I think the flight and spin of the ball shows that.
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11-04-2024 09:05 AM #142
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Marcondes’ header doesn’t put that spin on the ball. Whether it’s enough contact from the keeper is another question, but he undoubtedly gets something on it imo.Last edited by Stubbsy90+2; 11-04-2024 at 09:32 AM.
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11-04-2024 01:38 PM #144
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I was shouting for it at the time - albeit it's becoming pretty routine for our players to be cleaned out in and around the opposition area with the ref playing on as if nothing had happened - H&S be damned - it's only Hibs eh? Who cares if our players die of head injuries?!?
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