A long thread title, however why is more not made of this. Time after time we are subjected to referees that are deemed not good enough to referee Celtic or Rangers matches.
Is this common practice in other leagues? Is it in the interest of sporting integrity? Have Hibs brought this up with Crawford Allan?
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14-03-2024 09:18 AM #1
Referees That Are Not Allowed To Referee The Old Firm
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14-03-2024 09:21 AM #3
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What’s the deal with this? Been mentioned a few times but I pay little attention to who’s who referee wise.
How many times have we had last nights ref? Not asking for specific amounts necessarily, more just has it been one or two or quite a lot
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14-03-2024 09:25 AM #4This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
He has never refereed the Old Firm.
David Munro last night has refereed Celtic 3 times and Rangers once this season, he has been trusted at Celtic Park once but never at Ibrox.
Grant Irvine has never been allowed to referee Rangers but has refereed every other team in the last calendar year - https://www.whoscored.com/Referees/4...w/Grant-IrvineLast edited by Hibernian Verse; 14-03-2024 at 09:28 AM.
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14-03-2024 09:33 AM #5
IMO referees should be in charge of teams a set number of times per season. Canny be that hard to organise surely?
Thats the only way you get fairly distributed games amongst the "levels" of referee.
Cup finals are then reserved for top performing refs."...when Hibs won the Scottish Cup final and that celebration, Sunshine on Leith? I don’t think there’s a better football celebration ever in the game.”
Sir Alex Ferguson
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14-03-2024 09:58 AM #6
Also you have guys doing VAR who are junior to the referee and seem reluctant to ever question them.
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14-03-2024 10:13 AM #7
It’s almost as if in every aspect there is no level playing field.
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14-03-2024 10:40 AM #8
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14-03-2024 10:55 AM #9
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Agree with Jones28. Referees should be evenly distributed around the teams.
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14-03-2024 11:03 AM #10This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
You could also say x2 refs from each part of the country. Seems lots od West Coast based refs.
At the end of the day we want the best for the job and that shouldn’t just be Scottish / local refs.
The other questions…
Why do Rangers and Celtic never play each other 1st game of the season?
Why does Hampden have set ends / home ends for Rangers and Celtic ?
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14-03-2024 11:19 AM #11
Refereeing in Scotland presents the extra challenge of having different rules for Rangers and Celtc than the rest when it comes to making decisions during games, and with such a tight title race and Rangers arranging an emergency summit after the only erroneous call that went against them this season, you can understand why the old firm referee pool is required to be kept smaller with any more “errors” being deemed unthinkable at this stage of the season.
Basically referees need to “know the score” hence why some are kept at arms length for now. It’s nothing to do with perceived ability or experience.
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Should be the other way round.
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Only thing with a geographical quota like that is that sub-standard (I know, I know how could it get any worse) referees would get fast tracked because they're from the Highlands/Borders/Aberdeenshire etc which could possibly be even worse."...when Hibs won the Scottish Cup final and that celebration, Sunshine on Leith? I don’t think there’s a better football celebration ever in the game.”
Sir Alex Ferguson
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14-03-2024 01:28 PM #14This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
The dynamic should be different IMO, the impression I get is that the on field ref has an ego to protect."...when Hibs won the Scottish Cup final and that celebration, Sunshine on Leith? I don’t think there’s a better football celebration ever in the game.”
Sir Alex Ferguson
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We also have the situation in Scotland where we have two referees who now exclusively do VAR - Dallas and Aitken - and the unspoken reason for that is they are even worse than the lot who actually still referee on the pitch.
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14-03-2024 04:59 PM #17
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The ref on the field should be the one making the decisions.If he’s wrong it should be corrected by VAR with the ref agreeing to change his decision. The Laws of the game state that the ref makes the final decision.
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14-03-2024 07:00 PM #18
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The same argument could be applied to the fourth officials.
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14-03-2024 07:05 PM #19
Amazes me Nick Walsh is allowed to referee Old Firm games. He’s not the worst referee by any stretch, but a former ST holder at Parkhead!
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17-03-2024 04:11 PM #20
https://x.com/francoisplateau/status...Ggie80A2m3HH1A
Not Scotland, but for the questions on why referees would favour Rangers or Celtic (or not favour Hibs), this is a thread with examples of Ferguson's influence over referees when he was at Manchester United.
Rangers and Celtic have that influence here.Follow the Hibs podcast, Longbangers, on Twitter (@longbangers)
https://longbangers.hubwave.net
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The performance by Mike Riley to end Arsenals 49 game run was disgraceful.
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18-03-2024 07:25 PM #28
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Thing is, cannae but help think any referee from anywhere else would still get sucked into the unconscious or conscious bias towards the Uglies.
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19-03-2024 07:24 AM #29
Scottish referees are worried about their career prospects and are either biased, corrupt or incompetent.
Get referees in from abroad for SPL fixtures.
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19-03-2024 08:46 AM #30
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Probably controversial but I don't think that the head of referees needs to be a referee but a strong willed top quality administrator who can organise it.
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