I think it's a valid comment. Public life, and managers of all descriptions, football and otherwise these days, tend to know how to speak in public. It's part of the job.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I'm sure he's a decent guy, but he's miles out of his depth here. I said it elsewhere, he's a corner shop owner that's found himself in charge of a supermarket. Not his fault but it's not mine either. Time for him to go, imo.
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14-03-2024 11:49 AM #121
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14-03-2024 11:50 AM #122
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Couldn't care less how he speaks. He could sound like Martin Luther King for all I care but if you play your best creative midfielder up front and your first choice January transfer window CB in midfield then you're bringing problems on yourself.
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14-03-2024 11:52 AM #123This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Not starting ALF was baffling though. Especially when Marcondes up top clearly didn't work against the Huns on Sunday.
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14-03-2024 12:03 PM #124This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Triantis was a revelation against the Huns of William so no problem with him in midfield again
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14-03-2024 12:16 PM #125
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Ah, so being utterly garbage in the first 45 was just a cunning plan on NM's part. Right. Gotcha.
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14-03-2024 12:23 PM #126This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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I think this is why we have McDermott… so we don’t strangle potential at birth. Provide an objective view.
it felt like a double kick in the stanes lastnight goals but the second half had some real positives - of which we need more no doubt. If we’d held on that was something to build on but that’s a stinker of a result which has been a bit of a recurring theme but digging deeper there has been circumstances that have impacted us massively.Last edited by Viva_Palmeiras; 14-03-2024 at 01:07 PM.
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14-03-2024 01:32 PM #128This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I think this is why we have McDermott… so we don’t strangle potential at birth. Provide an objective view.
it felt like a double kick in the stanes"We know the people who have invested so far are simple fans." Vladimir Romanov - Scotsman 10th December 2012
"Romanov was like a breath of fresh air - laced with cyanide." Me.
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14-03-2024 01:58 PM #129
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NM's style of football does nothing for me, excepting the odd wee flurry before we go back to recycling the ball until we lose it and concede a soft goal.
Hibs aren't, and never should be, a place a manager can come and learn how to be a manager. I was happy with his appointment when it happened, so I'm not blaming anyone for it, but the experiment has gone on long enough. He keeps making stupid errors and is either too stubborn or too stupid to stop that.
P45 for him if I had my way. This season has been a shambles. Everyone talking about how many more points we would have had if VAR hadn't done us over. Well, maybe, but watching last night's latest episode of 'Bottlers R Us' I have severe doubts we'd have seen any of those games out either.
He's not up to it. End of.
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14-03-2024 02:30 PM #131
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Can anyone tell me what is the upside to continuing to persevere with Nick Montgomery? Anything? Because I genuinely cannot see anything he has done, at all, that makes me think 'Yip, there's a decent manager in there.'
Fair enough if you disagree, I applaud your loyalty, but I think it's misplaced in this case.Last edited by VoltaireHibs; 14-03-2024 at 02:32 PM.
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14-03-2024 02:56 PM #132
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14-03-2024 03:00 PM #133
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Like sticking for far too long with a rigid 442 system that wasn't working.
Insisting for far too long on playing out from the back with average defenders regardless of the consequences. Not knowing that it's OK to change it up a bit and go long when it suits.
Signing a central defender to shore up a defence that leaks goals for fun and then playing him in midfield.
Playing a midfielder as a striker and taking 45 minutes of pure dross to see it wasn't working.
He just doesn't cut it for me. Not sure he knows how to set up a team and doesn't appear to be getting the best out of the players at his disposal.
The first half last night was unbelievably poor. Against a team second from bottom in a poor league, tempo was slow, passing was shocking, players showed zero ability on the ball and not nearly enough passion or desire to be playing in a Hibs shirt.
We then start to play a little, get our noses in front before reverting to playing far too deep and inviting pressure on our back line with a slender one goal lead.
Officiating at games might be poor but that doesn't excuse NM's poor management.Last edited by allmodcons; 14-03-2024 at 03:47 PM.
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14-03-2024 04:09 PM #136
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14-03-2024 04:13 PM #137
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14-03-2024 04:19 PM #138
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So … you could also say - it that didn’t happen, then we would have far more than green shoots … we would be very much further up the table. He has, and still is, being shafted as much as us … in EVERY SINGLE MATCH now. In front of everyone’s eyes … such a run of positive results can massively improve the confidence and belief of players .. just look at hearts the past while .. you know, I wouldn’t blame him if he felt relieved to leave and manage a club that isn’t receiving this treatment … though his sense of justice and honour would be deflated by it, I’m sure.
..: can you even begin to imagine what the media would be doing with this run of decisions, and the rangers themselves would be, if it was happening to them (as if it ever would, I know) ?Last edited by cubehindthegoal; 14-03-2024 at 04:25 PM.
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14-03-2024 04:27 PM #139
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14-03-2024 04:32 PM #140
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It's okay to have a different opinion. I don't think folk that want him to stay are stupid, I get the desire for stability and possible incremental progression. But for me it's not going to happen. His style of play, his demeanour, his tactical stupidity, his inability to see what others can have all led me to this point.
It's not really a big deal. Fan doesn't like manager - it changes nothing. But I sincerely hope that the BK group have other ideas about how we progress as a club, and that it doesn't involve a rookie learning, or not learning, on the job. We're way better than that.
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14-03-2024 04:33 PM #141This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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14-03-2024 04:57 PM #145This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I agree with every single word of this. I would add that his attempt to fix our central defence has resulted in precisely no improvement there whatsoever.
He's getting to make all his mistakes as an inexperienced manager at Hibs (failure to sub Obita against Ugly Sister Bigot anyone?) when we are absolutely crying out for a manager who can make the most of our not inconsiderable resources.
I fear that the worst possible outcome will (again) happen here. He ends up doing just enough to allow the person with the title of Chief Executive and the person who is the de-facto Chief Executive to keep him on and spare their considerable blushes for yet another failed appointment gamble Football Manager stylee, he then gets the window to spend money, we then begin next season and - surprise, surprise - he has us still playing chronic to watch punchless, pointless, passing across the back, stutters with results and then gets emptied early in the season and we are then left with weeks of a gap without a manager who when he is eventually appointed inevitably has to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. All over again. Rinse and repeat.
As ever, I look forward to having to gorge on humble pie if he proves me wrong. Nothing would make me happier. But I'll make to plans to cook my own dinner because I very much doubt the pie is going to come along to trouble me.
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14-03-2024 04:59 PM #146This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
“One thing we did in a period where we were losing leads in games, we ended up conceding because we stopped playing, stopped having the ball, and that was down to trying to hold out for a win rather than killing a game off.
“I’d rather be a team that tries to kill games than sits on a lead,” he said. “That happened to us a few times, and we dropped points from winning positions. That’s a mentality thing you have to change with the players, but that doesn’t happen overnight. It takes time.”
Very much looks like he’s still not found a way to get them to do it going by last night.
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14-03-2024 05:13 PM #147
I actually think Montgomery isn't a bad manager, I just don't think he's quite good enough to take us forward, if we are to become anything like the 3rd force in Scottish football it won't be with him in charge, that's a cert. I don't think he's that bad a manager, just maybe not quite good enough to take us forward?
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14-03-2024 05:16 PM #148
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14-03-2024 05:28 PM #149
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The presumption you state is not actually a “presumption”, as much as you seem to want and will it to be.
Simple example … give us a throw in last night, rather than the wrong decision ? We gain two points. There was no time left for any other alternative .. unless he kept playing until there was, but that’s another (potentially corrupt) thing.
You talk of incremental progression. Take away corrupt decisions, we HAVE seen it in the past half dozen matches. And if there had been no corrupt decisions … we would have momentum … players gaining in confidence .. many more points on the board … in the top six comfortably …
It is really a big deal … the corruption, that is. It’s crucial and it’s massive in the difference all over the board. That’s why it happens.
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14-03-2024 05:32 PM #150
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The picture is mudded by the awful clutch of players he inherited, but I was really hoping he'd be able to knock them into some kind of cohesive unit capable of at least fighting for 3rd or 4th. None of that has happened. I've been uninspired by his team selection, his teams half-arsed performances and his teams ability to ship goals without much of an attempt to stem it.
Bottom line, I rate Hibs managers based on their use of subs and ability to change the game (in our favour !) when things need altering. In this respect Monty has been abysmal. He shows next to no understanding of what's actually going on the pitch. It feels like a complete lottery when he chucks players on, and who he chucks on. If Hibs decide to get rid of him now, I wouldn't care. I will however be deeply concerned if he's still in place come the last day of the season. We have a very big opportunity, thru Foley, to start buildings something new at Hibs. If the Hibs Board sleep-walk into this, we're sunk and the fans will surely let them know.
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