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26-02-2024 03:38 PM #121
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26-02-2024 03:39 PM #122This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
There were a couple of big calls for goals... one dodgier than the other... but they were the sort that you'd expect VAR to sort out. It didn't feel entirely right to see an obvious mistake (albeit one that is easy to make in real time) not being rectified and an obvious injustice being carried out.
A lot of the stuff with VAR is still open to opinion. That offside call at the weekend - there's a bawhair in it and it has to go one way or the other. I do think the refs bring a lot of trouble on themselves but I'm much more ambivalent about the offside call at the weekend than I have been about many other calls (such as the handball nonsense at Pittodrie the previous week).
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26-02-2024 03:52 PM #123
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HOLD THE FRONT PAGE!!!
The Carabao Cup Final, Liverpool goal chocked off for technical offside???
The player standing in offside position moved back onside when the kick was taken and prevented a defender from attacking the ball??
Player who scored was always onside.
New rule or just made up to suit the game?????
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26-02-2024 04:14 PM #124This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
The FA has the following for offside:
The hands and arms of all players, including the goalkeepers, are not considered. For the purposes of determining offside, the upper boundary of the arm is in line with the bottom of the armpit.
Quite what Scotland uses for VAR is clearly open to debate!
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26-02-2024 04:29 PM #125This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
PS don't support either team.
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26-02-2024 05:52 PM #126
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26-02-2024 06:38 PM #127This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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26-02-2024 06:56 PM #129
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26-02-2024 07:12 PM #131
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27-02-2024 05:36 PM #132
Would VAR be improved if when it came to making decisions the use of lines being drawn across computer screens was discarded?
If they look at a goal to try and investigate an offside and just look at the rerun, or freeze the frame if they wish, and a player looks right online with the defender then call it as being bang on line. If you need to spend time analysing angles and lines to microscopic levels to come to your decision it doesn’t justify any believed infringement.
When an outside agency has eliminated what was one of the great skills for strikers in springing offside traps and playing off the shoulder of defenders, alarm bells must surely be ringing.
The art of staying in line with the last defender has been lost to the game.
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27-02-2024 08:01 PM #133
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The penalty not given for hand ball in the Ross County v St Mirren just shows how bad the referees are. How the VAR isn’t flagging that up is beyond belief. Similar to our hand ball the other week, the referee on the pitch should just see it in the first place though.
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27-02-2024 08:31 PM #135
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It was mentioned at the AGM that most referees in Scotland are still part time which has got me thinking. The standard of refereeing is really affecting our game right now (arguably always has but more obvious due to VAR.
How much would it actually cost to bring them up to full time which would surely see an increase in competence?
VAR is costing 1.2 million per season. Fag packet maths says we could have 15 full time refs on 40k a year (seems fair?) for £600k. That’s not £600k extra as we are already paying them a part time amount, although I have no idea how much that might be.
If we applied the same sliding scale as VAR this would probably work out around an extra £50k per season for the team in 3rd and down closer to £30k for those at the bottom. These figures might be lower depending on current wages.
Considering the financial cost of being out out a cup or fishing 1 place lower in the league due to one or more incorrect refereeing decisions (i appreciate the flip side that for every team that loses out another gains), I would be all for this and find it hard to believe with the amount of money in our game these days that this hasn’t already happened. Having a £1.2 million per season VAR set up to support part time refs and manned by part time staff seems daft.
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27-02-2024 08:37 PM #137
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Instead of giving them excuses we should be performance managing them. We need more for wages like that - we even took the “only got one view” excuse away and it’s made little difference.
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28-02-2024 01:09 AM #138
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28-02-2024 04:15 AM #139
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Just get rid of everything Scottish - VAR and Referees - and bring back foreign referees - Cypriot or whatever....................problems solved
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28-02-2024 05:57 AM #142
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Without a doubt full time referees is the way forward but you also need full time assistants and 4th officials.
Brendan Rodgers commented on our refereeing when asked about warnock taking the Aberdeen job. It’s holding the game back up here no doubt.
I’ve said numerous times before, as the refs are part time, they aren’t relying on refereeing to pay their bills and support their families.
If refereeing was their main source of income and poor performance could see them demoted or ultimately sacked and therefore unable to support their families, no matter their allegiance, you’d soon see an improvement across the board.
Also, if they go into work on a Monday morning and you have to face rangers or Celtic fans, they hardly want the flak from colleagues and customers.
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28-02-2024 07:19 AM #144
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On second thoughts that might just mean his part time job of referring is full time on VAR?
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28-02-2024 07:47 AM #145This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Us Scots are incompetent. I wouldn't employ a Scot to empty my bins.
Give me a good old Englishman or someone from Greece.
Give me a Stuart Attwell anyday.
Or even better, Byron Moreno.
Scots? Cuh. You're having a laugh.
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28-02-2024 08:05 AM #146
A cheat who is a Scottish ref will still cheat whether he's part time or full time.
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28-02-2024 08:39 AM #147
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28-02-2024 08:45 AM #148
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28-02-2024 09:06 AM #149
I think the part time arrangement would actually be preferable to full time referees.
Referees involved full time with Scottish Football can only encompass them into the Old Firm centric bubble and influence even further. At least the part time arrange my keeps them at semi arms length.
“Professional” referees in Scotland is a dangerous road to be going down..
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28-02-2024 09:08 AM #150This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Not just because the attacker did have his shirt half pulled off his back but the hand ball was part of exactly the same play.
You could argue what they have if the short pull incident somehow distracted them from a separate play later but as it was the same play how can you not notice that there is a very likely hand ball at the same time!
The Sky replays are very clear as well…it should have been a very quick and easy decision.
To have missed the whole thing completely and not even looked at it is simply inexcusable and inexplicable.
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