Bad decisions against Hibs

[PatHead]

Might as well close the thread as there have been no decisions against us. Think it is Sevco and Hearts most hard done by.

[worcesterhibby]

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We surely would have a very strong case regarding corruption if we took them to court. For a referee, var team, appeals team to all get so many decisions clearly wrong how can it be anything else?

I really hope Hibs are considering taking action

I think you'll find judges are all Masons too. That's how the establishment works

[Alex Trager]

You can put that non peno into this thread for sure.

[BILLYHIBS]

Quite a few today and it’s only half time

Aberdeen goal looked offside

[greenlex]

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Quite a few today and it’s only half time

Aberdeen goal looked offside

No. Definitely onside.

[ChilliEater]

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Quite a few today and it’s only half time

Aberdeen goal looked offside

Devlin was offside when the ball was played back in. Miovski was on and hit the shot. When he hit the shot Devlin was back onside and scored the rebound. In the past, the flag goes up against Devlin as soon as the first ball is played in. Now, I'm not so sure. Offside has become very complicated with phases of play etc.

The hand ball decision to play on actually caused my jaw to drop - as clear cut a penalty as you'll see. He actually moves his arm towards the ball to block it and it hits him just above the elbow.

[BILLYHIBS]

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Devlin was offside when the ball was played back in. Miovski was on and hit the shot. When he hit the shot Devlin was back onside and scored the rebound. In the past, the flag goes up against Devlin as soon as the first ball is played in. Now, I'm not so sure. Offside has become very complicated with phases of play etc.

The hand ball decision to play on actually caused my jaw to drop - as clear cut a penalty as you'll see. He actually moves his arm towards the ball to block it and it hits him just above the elbow.

Agree with this

[HIBS NUTS]

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You can put that non peno into this thread for sure.

100 percent a penalty
utterly ridiculous dicision

[Pedantic_Hibee]

File today under corruption. That is the most blatant penalty you could ever wish to see.

To not even get the referee to look at it is just as scandalous as the reason not to award it.

I hope Hibs grow a ****ing set and call that out with a statement because that was nothing short of bent. Unbelievable. I’m still stunned that it wasn’t awarded and it was over two hours ago.

[Broken Gnome]

Question to Kieran Power, and totally understand if this doesn't get as much detail as a supporter would want...

What's the club process each Monday with regards to footballing decisions, including VAR?

Is this done towards a board or director of football level? Or something coaches and assistants assess?

If we've identified that we've been hard done by (to put it mildly) then what process so clubs have in place? Does it vary and lies specific to Hibs or any other club, or is there something standardised?

VAR decisions obviously drive supporters nuts and in a more emotional way than it would employees of a club, but we don't simply shrug off such incidents do we?

[GreenCastle]

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List since Var came in. Videos linked for older clips to jog memory.

VAR Gets it obviously wrong against us:

• Sands clear handball v Rangers at Ibrox in box. No on field decision, VAR ignored - https://twitter.com/Chrisfinn2703/st...21115540459520
• Duk Dives at Pittodrie in box - VAR looks at the dive for 4 minutes then concludes penalty - https://twitter.com/fergus_wright/st...32193370583041
• Marshall clearly fouled at Ross County - no foul given, goal for Ross county and costs us the win - https://twitter.com/Barlosthecat/sta...40363126755328
• Youan sent off at Celtic for being fouled himself - second yellow, not sure if VAR can intervene - but if not why not - https://twitter.com/Malky1875/status...14596640129025
• Rubezic elbow on Youan when we beat Aberdeen - Clear red - VAR ignores. https://twitter.com/Barlosthecat/sta...888321/video/1
• Ventes goal bound shot handled v Hearts - No red despite it stopping a goal.
• Vente Own Goal at Killie - Clearly fouled, VAR ignores
• St Mirren Penalty at ER -penalty given despite no evidence it hits hand and also that it comes off thigh first.
• Maolida shirt pull v St Mirren - VAR ignores clear foul in box, despite numerous shirt pulls being given all season.
• Boyle clipped v Celtic in box - Booked for diving and No VAR check
• Ralston Handball in box v Celtic- No VAR check.

I've probably missed some.

Another dodgy one is the Boyle offside in the semi v Sheep. Camera at Hampdens' missing so lines drawn from a ridiculous angle. Still not convinced he was off. Also Vente challenged by keeper in same game, no pen - same challenge next day penalty to Rangers.

When has it genuinely helped us? Not very often. 2 red cards v Killie - both debatable but not clear errors. Red Card for Cochrane in derby at Tynie, but then takes away pen, so mixed. Not really a great benefit as Red was the right decision. Have I missed any in our favour? If I have it wont come near to equalling the list above.

Think you have a few more to add to the list.

[Kavinho]

The 2 decisions against rangers at Easter road at the start of last season.
Penalty to them after a Rocky brush on the shirt, while the ball was practically in marshalls hands and then none given to us with a boy all over the striker with a ball chipped into the box

Not sure if VAR was involved in those though

[Torto7]

Just walk off the next time it happens.

[GreenCastle]

Kevin Clancy seems to have a history of bad mistakes in Hibs games.

Had issues with Hecky and Lennon too when at Hibs.

[Not In The Know]

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Just walk off the next time it happens.

100%. This season especially.

[jakedance]

Since VAR came in the one thing you can say for Hibs is that these decisions don’t ’even themselves out over a season’. We’ve had a few breaks but it’s clear that we are consistently getting decisions against us that we’re not getting for us. There is far too much evidence of it now and it’s becoming so normalised I’m just expecting it every week.

[Onion]

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Since VAR came in the one thing you can say for Hibs is that these decisions don’t ’even themselves out over a season’. We’ve had a few breaks but it’s clear that we are consistently getting decisions against us that we’re not getting for us. There is far too much evidence of it now and it’s becoming so normalised I’m just expecting it every week.

The concept of "even it out" is a myth. Against Aberdeen (handball), St Mirren (non-pen), Celtic and now Hearts - these were all crucial decisions at key times that could affect the outcome of the game. If Hibs do start to get the odd dodgy decision in our favour, it will be at a time when it doesn't matter a jot.

SFA's problem is Hibs have rarely been enough goals ahead or behind in games for any evening out to be irrelevant - denying refs an opportunity.

[Bobby's Cinema]

Another ridiculous first half decision last night that I could not move on from and pretty much ruined my enjoyment of the rest of the game.

That was a blatant case that the player has pulled out of the challenge before contact was made. What do you do when even presented with that footage and a team of officials telling him he's wrong, he still sticks by it.

At what point do they look at the fact a referee is basically stood in the wheatfield stand getting a look at these.

Aside from that there were another 5-10 fouls given by clancy over the course of the game that were just obvious con man jobs throwing themselves to ground and he gave it every time.

[JimBHibees]

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The concept of "even it out" is a myth. Against Aberdeen (handball), St Mirren (non-pen), Celtic and now Hearts - these were all crucial decisions at key times that could affect the outcome of the game. If Hibs do start to get the odd dodgy decision in our favour, it will be at a time when it doesn't matter a jot.

SFA's problem is Hibs have rarely been enough goals ahead or behind in games for any evening out to be irrelevant - denying refs an opportunity.

Probably cheated us out of five points there which would have had us comfortably in top 6 and chasing St Mirren.

[JimBHibees]

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Another ridiculous first half decision last night that I could not move on from and pretty much ruined my enjoyment of the rest of the game.

That was a blatant case that the player has pulled out of the challenge before contact was made. What do you do when even presented with that footage and a team of officials telling him he's wrong, he still sticks by it.

At what point do they look at the fact a referee is basically stood in the wheatfield stand getting a look at these.

Aside from that there were another 5-10 fouls given by clancy over the course of the game that were just obvious con man jobs throwing themselves to ground and he gave it every time.

Your last point is a good one it doesn't need to be key decisions it can be fouls given for them softly stopping us attacking or putting them in a decent position. The foul given to Cochrane in the first half at the edge of our box was a complete dive. Decent shooting opportunity for them.

[Not In The Know]

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Your last point is a good one it doesn't need to be key decisions it can be fouls given for them softly stopping us attacking or putting them in a decent position. The foul given to Cochrane in the first half at the edge of our box was a complete dive. Decent shooting opportunity for them.

Rocky’s early booking too.

[JimBHibees]

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Rocky’s early booking too.

Agree especially when he then let Cochrane away with a stick on booking.