April Derby moved for....... PPV fans!

[Carheenlea]

The club would have known that there would be a lot of table thumping and gnashing of teeth over the announcement (have already done so myself), but like the fall out over sectarianism/Rangers/ban them etc, after a bit of noise for a couple of days it’s soon forgotten about and the fans just turn up at 12.30 for the derby as ultimately we all want to see Hibs play.

The sectarian outrage will return around the time of the next Rangers fixture and the next fixture change for TV/PPV will prompt more annoyance but it’s short term.

Football clubs and authorities play us, and we always end up playing along.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Sevco game was £12.99 so i presume the Hertz game will be the same

[Hibbyradge]

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On a very good day Hibs get 4,000 for ppv. They'll get around 2,000 for this one.

Why only 2000.

Surely hertz supporters without tickets will want to watch the game as well as hibbies who can't get to ER?

[JohnM1875]

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Why only 2000.

Surely hertz supporters without tickets will want to watch the game as well as hibbies who can't get to ER?

They absolutely will want to watch it. Though a vast majority will find an increasingly easier way to stream it for free and advoid giving Hibs money.

[PHeffernan]

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As inconvenient as it is, there will be a far higher take up than 1000.

If it was being played at Tynecastle how many Hibs supporters would pay them for PPV and how many would use a firestick, find a stream ... anyway but giving them money. Their supporters will be the same. 2000 at £10 each minus expenses is still just 2 weeks wages for Ben Ken.

[BS44]

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Why only 2000.

Surely hertz supporters without tickets will want to watch the game as well as hibbies who can't get to ER?

Cos we only get only 4,000 against the old firm.

[BS44]

I'm thinking about boycotting it. Enough's enough.

[Tyler Durden]

I think this decision should have been down to Lee Johnson. It’s easy to say we’re doing what we can to make more money.

But the only consideration should be - does this help us win the game? Any small benefit that helps us win this game keeps us in touch of 3rd place. That’s the ultimate revenue boost.

It’s also tough to give the benefit of the doubt to BK when he’s been involved in a few commercial calls already that have cost us big money.

[wookie70]

Do the clubs not have reciprocal arrangements for live feeds ie we give the stream to Hearts and they overlay their own commentary for their PPV. We might actually make more money for them than us with this decision

[007]

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I haven't worked it out properly but if you payed £420 for an adult season ticket this season it costs you £22 a game for 19 games which is fair enough but most of us miss games. Miss 2 games and you are up to £25 a game and the advantage of the flexibility of being a walk up becomes appealing.
We all want to help the club, so much that we even bought season tickets when we couldn't attend due to the covid epidemic.
However, it's feeling like a one way street now and ruining the derby by kicking off at 1230 hrs in order to chisel an extra few quid is another example.
I'm going to miss sitting next to my son at home games starting next season after so many years but I understand trying to get time off work to attend home games is a stress for him which Hibs are making worse with their unnecessary late time and day match changes.

I have worked it out.
Adult gold ST early bird this season was £420.

If you go to all 19 home games then it costs £22.11 per game.
18 games = £23.33
17 games = £24.71

A cat A walk-up is £35
Cat B is £28.

Assuming top 6 then 6 walk-up cat A games is £210 and 13 cat B is £364 so a total of £574. ST is a total saving of £154 if all 19 games attended.
(Don't know if Aberdeen is cat A or B, have based the above on it being B)

I could miss 2 cat A games and 3 cat B and would effectively break even. Though a ST has other benefits such as first dibs on cup final tickets, discount at kiosks, free ticket for a friendly, probably a better seat than a walk-up etc. So even missing those 5 games and the ST is a better deal.

[H18 SFR]

Disappointed beyond any words that our club have made this decision. I know there is nothing I can do beyond not using my season ticket that day which makes it even harder to accept.

[Chorley Hibee]

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I think this decision should have been down to Lee Johnson. It’s easy to say we’re doing what we can to make more money.

But the only consideration should be - does this help us win the game? Any small benefit that helps us win this game keeps us in touch of 3rd place. That’s the ultimate revenue boost.

It’s also tough to give the benefit of the doubt to BK when he’s been involved in a few commercial calls already that have cost us big money.

Agreed.

Short term thinking for a negligible amount of cash.

It will bite them in the arse, eventually.

[PHeffernan]

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I have worked it out.
Adult gold ST early bird this season was £420.

If you go to all 19 home games then it costs £22.11 per game.
18 games = £23.33
17 games = £24.71

A cat A walk-up is £35
Cat B is £28.

Assuming top 6 then 6 walk-up cat A games is £210 and 13 cat B is £364 so a total of £574. ST is a total saving of £154 if all 19 games attended.
(Don't know if Aberdeen is cat A or B, have based the above on it being B)

I could miss 2 cat A games and 3 cat B and would effectively break even. Though a ST has other benefits such as first dibs on cup final tickets, discount at kiosks, free ticket for a friendly, probably a better seat than a walk-up etc. So even missing those 5 games and the ST is a better deal.

You forgot to factor in the £5 deal to attend the St Johnstone game and the cheap multi ticket packages offered before Christmas.
Walk ups don't have to go if it's pissing of rain, freezing or they can't be arsed.
Fire up their firestick, grab the snacks of choice and Bobs yer auntie.
Meanwhile us season ticket types are oot in aw weathers.

[Waxy]

I can envisage a ppv season ticket in the future.

[Logie Green]

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I can envisage a ppv season ticket in the future.

Is that not what a Firestick effectively is already?

[Stubbsy90+2]

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I can envisage a ppv season ticket in the future.

Overseas fans pretty much have a home and away season ticket (as do Firestick fans I suppose).

[Hibbyradge]

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Cos we only get only 4,000 against the old firm.

Really? That surprises me.

Is there somewhere to find the PPV viewing figures?

[bod]

Be interesting to know how much they make out of changing it

[O'Rourke3]

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Meanwhile us season ticket types are oot in aw weathers.

Yes, the clue in the word season...

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[BS44]

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Really? That surprises me.

Is there somewhere to find the PPV viewing figures?

Not that I know of. I was told that number by a club director.

[Carheenlea]

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On a very good day Hibs get 4,000 for ppv. They'll get around 2,000 for this one.

With those figures, a drop in walk ups paying full price could see the club making less than they would have with a 3pm no PPV arrangement.

[Hibbyradge]

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Not that I know of. I was told that number by a club director.

Ok cheers.

[Clarence]

Will LJ have to bring his day before derby bevvy sesh forward as a result of this? Where on George St does a good bottomless brunch?

[Since90+2]

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Will LJ have to bring his day before derby bevvy sesh forward as a result of this? Where on George St does a good bottomless brunch?

Very good.

[Henderson2Del]

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Had it been half five there wouldn't have been an outcry because it makes for a far better day and occasion with KO later on in the day.

The problem is the early KO which ruins the fixture.

Why? Is booze the real
Issue here ?

[LaMotta]

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Why? Is booze the real
Issue here ?

It's def an issue for some, but I don't see a problem with that. The build up to a big game over a day is part of the experience that makes football what it is. It's a social event and that aspect of the game is what keeps many people going week in week out when the football on show over the years wouldn't have anyone rushing back to buy season tickets.

Also the atmosphere at 12.30 is significantly worse than it would be at 3pm or later - there is no doubt about that. An early KO takes away from the big game experience.

[HFC93]

Will still be a really good crowd if not close to sell out + a good amount of people taking up the PPV option. A sensible financial decision from the club.

[The Harp Awakes]

I think commercially Hibs have made some good decisions recently. I attended the Pioneers hospitality for the Kilmarnock game and the place was mobbed and the experience brilliant. Great food and great service.

However, deciding to move the time of this game for PPV is a shocker. A real kick in the teeth for supporters planning to attend the game. I'd like to know who made this decision - our CEO? If so, he needs to show face and explain his decision.

[B.H.F.C]

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Will still be a really good crowd if not close to sell out + a good amount of people taking up the PPV option. A sensible financial decision from the club.

Will work out financially if they shift all the tickets.

With the price PPV is usually priced at you need to sell a few passes to equal the value of one match ticket. And I can’t imagine Hearts agreeing to it without getting their cut either.

Most important thing is that we sell every seat in the stadium. Hopefully this doesn’t contribute to that not happening at the same time as pissing off a number of people who actually go.

[marinello59]

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Will still be a really good crowd if not close to sell out + a good amount of people taking up the PPV option. A sensible financial decision from the club.

Take out the costs involved and Hearts share then it looks like thousands of fans are going to be messed about for very little gain. It’s an awful decision, it’s going to mean a lot of out of town season tickets holders won’t make this one.