The world cup thread

**Lago** · 16-11-2022 11:29 AM

Should never have been held there, having said that I will of counse watch it, hopefully football will overcome politics, not holding my breath though.

***Stairway 2 7*** · 16-11-2022 11:50 AM

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Are all the videos of actors dressed up as fans of various nations legit or is it part of some advertising campaign and the internet is doing a bit of mischief making?

It's apparently the workers of the stadiums that are being paid $10 a day to help create atmosphere, mostly from Pakistan. I'd read how football bloggers from around the world are being paid to come and be positive about the world Cup also. But seeing some of the fan parks and pop up hotels ,it looks more like fyre festival

**HoboHarry** · 16-11-2022 11:53 AM

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Come on England ⚽️❤️😄

Away and s***e in your hat.

**Iain G** · 16-11-2022 12:08 PM

Looking forward to the further adventures of Harry Maguire over the next 3 games 😁

***WhileTheChief..*** · 16-11-2022 01:16 PM

Feels a bit flat. Usually there would be so much hype around a WC and what England are going to do etc.

I’ve barely heard a peep about it. Just feels like there’s a lot less interest than normal.

**He's here!** · 16-11-2022 01:59 PM

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Feels a bit flat. Usually there would be so much hype around a WC and what England are going to do etc.

I’ve barely heard a peep about it. Just feels like there’s a lot less interest than normal.

Partly because it's being crammed into the middle of a domestic season and doesn't feel like a normal World Cup, but primarily because it's a tournament many don't believe should be taking place in Qatar. I'll certainly be giving it a miss.

**He's here!** · 16-11-2022 02:04 PM

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I'm planning on giving it a miss. I'm not a massive football fan truth be told, but I'm also a teacher by trade. Watching the WC just feels too much like accepting things I'm against. It's all too much 'Berlin 1936' for me. I don't fully blame FIFA. If people watch it, if they buy the stuff, if the players play, if the media support, then we're all involved. I won't judge. I watched the F1 Qatar race and felt bad about doing so. But I also own an iPhone, bought because it does what I need it to do and what I know, but I also know what some of the practices are which go into making it. I'm not judging anyone who does, I've got my own failings as pointed out, but I will be trying not to watch this.

"Nothing matters at all, the needle returns to the start of the song and we all sing along like before". I was impressed by the BLM approach in F1 and in football, but it all seems a bit poor to attend now.

Indeed. Personally I don't think any international football team should be going near this tournament, while among fans there's a depressing 'ach I don't like the regime but it's fitba so I'll be watching' mentality.

***Sudds_1*** · 16-11-2022 02:27 PM

Yep...very flat even in the engerland press. France for me ....😁

***Mon Dieu4*** · 16-11-2022 02:28 PM

I'm off work next week on holiday and thought I'd be looking forward to watching the games, turns out I have zero excitement at all about any of it

***Stairway 2 7*** · 16-11-2022 02:29 PM

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Partly because it's being crammed into the middle of a domestic season and doesn't feel like a normal World Cup, but primarily because it's a tournament many don't believe should be taking place in Qatar. I'll certainly be giving it a miss.

Did you not say previously you don't watch world cups. I can't wait, a nice break from hibs.

Yes the regime is abhorrent but I watched the games in Russia and the US too so..

**Donegal Hibby** · 16-11-2022 02:43 PM

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Did you not say previously you don't watch world cups. I can't wait, a nice break from hibs.

Yes the regime is abhorrent but I watched the games in Russia and the US too so..

I'm the same don't agree with venue of it but always enjoy the world cup 😉

**He's here!** · 16-11-2022 03:05 PM

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Did you not say previously you don't watch world cups. I can't wait, a nice break from hibs.

Yes the regime is abhorrent but I watched the games in Russia and the US too so..

Each to their own. I'm not trying to change anyone's mind, but I wouldn't watch Hibs either if they happened to tour there.

I just find it a bit dispiriting that the power of football is enough for many to push aside their qualms about what's gone on in Qatar to make this event happen, as though loving football is some sort of get out jail morality card.

**He's here!** · 16-11-2022 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by Lago

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Should never have been held there, having said that I will of course watch it, hopefully football will overcome politics, not holding my breath though.

How will football overcome politics? Football was complicit in the politics involved in taking the World Cup to Qatar. The game itself wields such power that it could easily have taken the tournament somewhere more palatable when it comes to human rights abuses.

**EGL2000** · 16-11-2022 03:40 PM

I'm actually really excited for it personally, think there could be a few upsets.

***WhileTheChief..*** · 16-11-2022 03:52 PM

Maybe one for the Holy Ground....

**heidtheba** · 16-11-2022 04:00 PM

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How will football overcome politics? Football was complicit in the politics involved in taking the World Cup to Qatar. The game itself wields such power that it could easily have taken the tournament somewhere more palatable when it comes to human rights abuses.

How good would it have been if the committee had said "Dear Qatar, your bid was successful on a number of points, but failed on x, y, z issues. Get these sorted and you can have it the next again time. Yours, World Football." that could have been quite powerful.

**HoboHarry** · 16-11-2022 04:18 PM

This is by far the least I've ever been interested in a World Cup. I only learned the kick off time for the first match last weekend because the wife asked me. Mid season, injured players dropping like flies and the political issues all play a part.

**hibsbollah** · 16-11-2022 04:51 PM

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I'm the same don't agree with venue of it but always enjoy the world cup 😉

Me too, I always enjoy watching a World Cup, even if I have major concerns about the politics.

**Donegal Hibby** · 16-11-2022 06:12 PM

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Me too, I always enjoy watching a World Cup, even if I have major concerns about the politics.

I also have the same concerns about the political side of it too and the whole thing stinks of corruption and FIFA are entirely to be blamed here . Once it starts though I will be watching as much of it as I can . The best players in the world competing against one another, on that note it could be our last chance to see Messi , Ronaldo and Luka modric in a world cup which I don't want to miss out seeing either!

**norhfc** · 16-11-2022 06:18 PM

I hoped one of the bigger countries like Brazil would have pulled out starting a domino effect. This hasn’t happened so me not watching it makes absolutely no difference at all. Not up for it but will no doubt watch the more attractive games.

**StirlingHibee** · 16-11-2022 06:44 PM

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I'm the same don't agree with venue of it but always enjoy the world cup 😉

Me too. However, now looking forward to it and will watch as much as I can. England's group is fascinating - a real geo-political edge with all of England's games and USA-Iran could be interesting.

**Pretty Boy** · 16-11-2022 06:59 PM

Think I last sat down and properly absorbed a WC in 2002. Will treat this one like every other, not that interested but will watch the odd game if it's on.

Got plans to do a bit groundhopping taking in non league games during the break from Hibs, starting Saturday in Linlithgow, and I'm looking forward to that more.

It's maybe a generational thing and the WC was a bigger deal in the past because of it's rarity and the spectacle of only seeing players every 4 years. If I was so inclined to could watch all these players any time I wanted now and it's been the same for all of my adult life.

**Donegal Hibby** · 16-11-2022 07:45 PM

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Me too. However, now looking forward to it and will watch as much as I can. England's group is fascinating - a real geo-political edge with all of England's games and USA-Iran could be interesting.

England's groups a interesting one , USA - Iran game should be good . Will be very interested in Spain, Germany and Japan games .Think they will be tight games also would be interested in seeing Qatar going out as soon as possible too though wouldn't surprise me to see them get a few dodgy decisions from the referees too

**StirlingHibee** · 16-11-2022 07:54 PM

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England's groups a interesting one , USA - Iran game should be good . Will be very interested in Spain, Germany and Japan games .Think they will be tight games also would be interested in seeing Qatar going out as soon as possible too though wouldn't surprise me to see them get a few dodgy decisions from the referees too

Always embarrassing if the host country does not make it through the group stages. If I remember correctly, it's only happened once - South Africa (2010).

**Donegal Hibby** · 16-11-2022 08:42 PM

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Always embarrassing if the host country does not make it through the group stages. If I remember correctly, it's only happened once - South Africa (2010).

Remember it well , had a Spain backed to win it very early on and had a good bit of money coming my way if they won . It was the Netherlands who Spain played in final and they were very anti football in it , basically tried to stop Spain playing who had iniesta ,fabregas , Silva etc , really great team they had . I also remember that horn that was at every game , really annoying I thought it was . Vuvuzela I think it was which meant " Noise maker" I think . History of the world cup here .
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_World_Cup

***Stairway 2 7*** · 16-11-2022 10:01 PM

9 quid salad at the fan zone looks decent..

https://mobile.twitter.com/FootyScra...78355954937856

£160 a night pop up room👌
https://mobile.twitter.com/barstools...12316331532289

***SteveHFC*** · 16-11-2022 10:10 PM

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9 quid salad at the fan zone looks decent..

https://mobile.twitter.com/FootyScra...78355954937856

£160 a night pop up room👌
https://mobile.twitter.com/barstools...12316331532289

Tynecastle has better facilities than that.

***Stairway 2 7*** · 16-11-2022 10:16 PM

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Tynecastle has better facilities than that.

Qatar doesn't have stairs to nowhere like the bus shelter. Although their stadium lounges and hearts castle view lounge, both have similar views of Edinburgh Castle