Can't stand Crocker as a commentator. Just regurgitates the same lines all the time.
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14-08-2022 09:27 PM #31
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14-08-2022 09:33 PM #32This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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14-08-2022 09:42 PM #33
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I'm not convinced it would impact our crowds. I think the people that attend would choose to and the ones who watch it on TV or iptv would continue to do so
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14-08-2022 09:44 PM #34
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14-08-2022 09:51 PM #36
I seen a lot of comments from Celtic fans greeting about tickets. The sooner these rodents leave scottish football the better their sense of entitlement is shocking
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14-08-2022 09:55 PM #37
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14-08-2022 10:11 PM #38This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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interesting points (not being wide), and whilst I think attendances would be affected, there would also be many fans (taking your pricing as an accurate estimate) who would have a season ticket and subscribe as well, even if it’s just to watch the match back later at their leisure. There’s also possible opportunities to tie up with other sports as a package deal, both in the UK and abroad, which might broaden the subscription numbers further
some counter arguments, off the top of my head, or at least balancing points:
- there would be overheads to be taken off your numbers, such as infrastructure (cameras, digital storage, means and capability of delivery etc), wages for commentators, cameramen/women, sound people, etc, the cost of production companies, graphics, and more. That list of costs will be lengthy, and even more so as a start up
- I believe that there’s a legal block still in place for showing games live at 3pm on a Saturday, if this is the case then the same/similar arguments are there to be had for watching games live on tv at awkward times
- what you've described is a much better version of setanta/itv digital, what safeguards could there be to protect clubs from similar collapses (sky ain’t going anywhere, that money is golden)
- the more input that clubs get with something like this, the more self centred things will get, just look at the covid relegation carry on, or the fact that we still have an 11-1 voting structure in the top flight, some clubs don’t want to upset the golden geese by doing something to annoy rangers or Celtic
- how would the money get divvied up? Rangers and Celtic will (rightly) say they are bringing the majority of subscribers, so will (selfishly) demand they get the lions share of the money, and they’ll bring everything they’ve got to bring pressure to bear to get their way through the media, through the spfl board, etc etc
- what does this concept do for fans that don’t have broadband, or can’t get sufficient speeds to support it? There won’t be a huge number granted, but what message does it send - we’re more interested in seeing the colour of people’s money than making sure everyone can be catered for? Currently, someone who’s housebound or can’t afford to go to matches (season ticket cost, travel, time commitments required) can pay their money to sky who will deal with all the setup and possible issues that having sky in your house without the fan needing to lift a finger
- what happens if there’s division amongst the clubs on whether we go for this option or with sky? Majority rules, sure, but it could cause a lot of animosity between a lot of clubs, this would be a gamble
lastly, and this is a genuine question, is there any reasonably sized leagues across Europe who have a similar setup for their tv deals? Not with a broadcaster but a self owned and produced broadcasting structure designed to fulfil their specific needs? It’s not a flippant question, I hope there is tbh, as there would mean an opportunity to explore the concept with a working situation rather than having to work it all from scratch
I'm on the fence, I’m not a huge fan of the current way of doing it, although in terms of quality (picture, sound, etc), sky do a good professional job, with the exception of most of their pundits and the old firm centric matches shown. But I also want to make sure that we don’t have the club in a situation like we did 20 or so years ago when we had severe financial issues.
I also wouldn’t be averse to rangers and Celtic sodding off somewhere (literally, anywhere but here), and the idea of a league with certainly less money but one where there’d be somewhere between 3 and 6 teams in with a shout of winning the league or cup every seasonLast edited by McD; 14-08-2022 at 10:39 PM.
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14-08-2022 11:26 PM #40
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15-08-2022 11:47 AM #41This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I write this to save others that genuinely hold that view #MonTheLegendTrashers :)"We know the people who have invested so far are simple fans." Vladimir Romanov - Scotsman 10th December 2012
"Romanov was like a breath of fresh air - laced with cyanide." Me.
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15-08-2022 12:51 PM #42
Had a friend who entered a competition that the BBC was running for commentators.He said he was shocked how difficult it was to do as they were given a game to commentate on as well as all the interruptions with people giving them instructions in their headphones,also the preparation involved.
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15-08-2022 01:09 PM #43
BBC commentator David Begg was one of the best commentators there has been doing Scottish football. This clip of him commentating on the Ibrox Sproule hattrick is tremendous:
(93) Sproule Hat-trick (Crayon) - YouTube
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15-08-2022 01:14 PM #44
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15-08-2022 04:57 PM #45This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
He's behind you.
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