Current Injuries

[HibsGW]

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I wouldn't imagine doing conditioning over a longer period is that unusual for someone with his injury history and prolonged period out - Infact Nisbet is already doing pitch based conditioning and isn't expected back for a few months yet (minimum)

Basically saying he is expected to rejoin the group over the next 2 weeks

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Nisbet is also doing individual ball work and he’s been due to come back in November all along. Nisbet has had a cruciate ligament injury as well, as far as everyone is aware there’s been nothing close to that serious with Magennis, that’s why it would be good to know what’s actually wrong. He was back doing rehab stuff before the season started, I’d assume there must have been a set back but it doesn’t sound like there has.

[Tyler Durden]

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Not really on the Magennis front.

He’s trained for 2 months with no mention of any setbacks but isn’t yet ready to train with the team but may be by the end of the month, he also may not be. Once he is, he’ll need more training which will need to be managed in terms of intensity and volume and he’ll also need bounce games.

Doesn’t really give us any idea of a potential time scale for getting him on the pitch really but with the World Cup break 3 months away it looks like we’ll see very little if any of him before that. So we definitely need someone in to replace him.

Not like you to be so pessimistic

Pretty typical of this board overall that people moan about not hearing anything and then moan about the content of the update.

[Diclonius]

Basically:

Bushiri, Campbell: Imminent
Melkersen, Mitchell, Stevenson: Soon
Magennis, McGeady, Nisbet: Ages

[Winston Ingram]

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I wouldn't imagine doing conditioning over a longer period is that unusual for someone with his injury history and prolonged period out - Infact Nisbet is already doing pitch based conditioning and isn't expected back for a few months yet (minimum)

Basically saying he is expected to rejoin the group over the next 2 weeks

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Nisbet has been telling people I know that he won't be back playing until after the World Cup.

[Trinity Hibee]

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Not like you to be so pessimistic

Pretty typical of this board overall that people moan about not hearing anything and then moan about the content of the update.

A bit unfair. Some of these players have disappeared off the face of the earth for a while multiple times. Given we are paying their wages don’t think it’s unreasonable to ask what is going on.

Across the board there repeatedly appears to be setbacks to many of these players whilst coming back to fitness. Not blaming the player but it is frustrating.

[Trinity Hibee]

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Nisbet has been telling people I know that he won't be back playing until after the World Cup.

Yeah given his injury makes sense to keep him fresh for after the break.

[BoomtownHibees]

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Nisbet has been telling people I know that he won't be back playing until after the World Cup.

The season is due to pause after our game on 12th November so would guess what you’ve been told is about right

[Stubbsy90+2]

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Not like you to be so pessimistic

Pretty typical of this board overall that people moan about not hearing anything and then moan about the content of the update.

What’s the optimistic version then?

[Waxy]

We’ve been having a shocker with injuries for quite some time now.

[Unseen work]

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I’d say well done for the positive intent to keep people informed but the statement leaves you with just as many or more questions than before. As you say, what actually is his injury? Why has he been training alone doing only conditioning for 2 months without any setbacks?

Think was always the issue, it’s a damned if they do damned if they don’t.

They were never going to give specific details about the injuries imo

[NAE NOOKIE]

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Basically:

Bushiri, Campbell: Imminent
Melkersen, Mitchell, Stevenson: Soon
Magennis, McGeady, Nisbet: Ages

That's how I read it as well, I highly doubt we'll see anything of McGeady or Nisbet before the world cup and I have to say reading between the lines I have little confidence we'll see anything of Magennis before next season.

Of all the injured players Mitchell must be the most exasperating, it seems to be one niggling injury after another, hamstrings, muscle strains, ankle knocks, etc, etc ... yet in a year and a half at Blackpool prior to joining us he managed 45 first team appearances .... what were they doing at Blackpool that we aren't or he isn't?

The next annoyance is Nisbet, but not through any of his doing. I don't know if his injury would have happened anyway, but the game he was injured in was against Celtic, a game where an overly lenient ref had allowed them to get away with a series of heavy fouls without producing a card, it had the crowd up in arms at the time as we awaited the inevitable Hibs booking for our first foul.
The Celtic fouls continued until Nisbet was clattered on the half way line, that did produce a booking but by then the damage was done. In all honesty I was surprised Hibs didn't have something to say about it at the time. There's no doubt in my mind that the ref's failure to book any of their players prior to Nisbet's injury was at least indirectly a contributory factor to him getting hurt.

[Stubbsy90+2]

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We’ve been having a shocker with injuries for quite some time now.

I’ve said it previously but you wonder if questions should be asked of the backroom staff - medical/sports science etc.

Why are we getting so many injuries? Do we train to often? At to high an intensity? Are the players doing the right things for recovery? Should certain players be able to train less often?

And once the players get injured, why do some of them take so long to come back? Is their rehab as it should be? We had Magennis get injured and about 2 months later Hibs came out and said they didn’t even know what was wrong with him. Why had we not got to the bottom of it by that point?

It may be just rotten bad luck. But at this level of football, at a company turning over 8 figures a year, such significant issues should never just be instantly put down to bad luck (that’s not to say that’s what we’re doing btw).

[CapitalGreen]

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Think was always the issue, it’s a damned if they do damned if they don’t.

They were never going to give specific details about the injuries imo

Too many people have been conditioned by football manager and FIFA etc to think that when a player gets an injury, there will be a specific set date in the future when they’ll return to full fitness. The reality is rehab from serious injury is a multi-stage process and how quickly a player moves through those stages will be determined by how their body reacts to the increasing workload put on them and whether or not any set backs occur. Of course, the players and staff responsible will have a best case scenario timeline they hope to get back by but as we have experienced with previous set backs, trying to predict anything to far into the future results in heightened expectations and ultimately disappointment.

[Since452]

Delighted Rocky is avaliable. Something i thought i'd never say last season.

[hibbyfraelibby]

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Nisbet has been telling people I know that he won't be back playing until after the World Cup.

Sounds about right. He was only ever going to rush it back if Scotland had qualified. Now that we haven't he can do the equivalent of a proper pre-season at a lower risk.

[Tyler Durden]

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What’s the optimistic version then?

Magennis back training in 2 weeks and could be playing by start of October

[Ronniekirk]

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Magennis back training in 2 weeks and could be playing by start of October

I doubt we will push him that hard After international break seems the better option assuming he doesn’t breakdown at some point
Anything before that would be a bonus

[SlickShoes]

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I’ve said it previously but you wonder if questions should be asked of the backroom staff - medical/sports science etc.

Why are we getting so many injuries? Do we train to often? At to high an intensity? Are the players doing the right things for recovery? Should certain players be able to train less often?

And once the players get injured, why do some of them take so long to come back? Is their rehab as it should be? We had Magennis get injured and about 2 months later Hibs came out and said they didn’t even know what was wrong with him. Why had we not got to the bottom of it by that point?

It may be just rotten bad luck. But at this level of football, at a company turning over 8 figures a year, such significant issues should never just be instantly put down to bad luck (that’s not to say that’s what we’re doing btw).

It depends on the type of injuries they are, you'd need to collate a list of all the players that have been injured in the last year, how they were injured, what type of injury it was and what their history of injury was in that area before it.

I know lots of stats are available but not sure about injury stats, is anyone keeping track of that?

[HibsGW]

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Too many people have been conditioned by football manager and FIFA etc to think that when a player gets an injury, there will be a specific set date in the future when they’ll return to full fitness. The reality is rehab from serious injury is a multi-stage process and how quickly a player moves through those stages will be determined by how their body reacts to the increasing workload put on them and whether or not any set backs occur. Of course, the players and staff responsible will have a best case scenario timeline they hope to get back by but as we have experienced with previous set backs, trying to predict anything to far into the future results in heightened expectations and ultimately disappointment.

Hibs haven’t ever indicated that Magennis had a serious injury which is probably the main reason his unavailability is so frustrating. He was 2 weeks away, then he was still 2 weeks away, then he just vanished for almost a year.

[hibbyfraelibby]

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Magennis back training in 2 weeks and could be playing by start of October

After the World Cup break more like...assumming nobody sneezes near him and purs him back 3 months🙃

[Coco Bryce]

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Magennis back training in 2 weeks and could be playing by start of October

Have you seen the timber he needs to shift as well?

[Smartie]

Call me a doom and gloomer, but I’d be budgeting on getting zero from Nisbet, McGeady, Magennis and Mitchell this season. They’re all going to be either injured or a “returning from injury shadow of themselves” version at best. Or maybe picking up another injury after they get over these injuries.

If we get more from any of them it should be considered to be a bonus.

Based on that, we build a squad accordingly.

In my opinion, based on getting lucky with further injuries, we’re a CH, a CM and a CF off having a squad that will compete for top 6.

[Jones28]

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https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/an-injury-update

In short the two guys we really could do with being fit are still a couple of months away from team training. Magennis and Nisbet.

[Coco Bryce]

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In short the two guys we really could do with being fit are still a couple of months away from team training. Magennis and Nisbet.

Basically yip.

[Callum_62]

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Have you seen the timber he needs to shift as well?

Wish I was carrying 'the timber' he is

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[CmoantheHibs]

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I’d say well done for the positive intent to keep people informed but the statement leaves you with just as many or more questions than before. As you say, what actually is his injury? Why has he been training alone doing only conditioning for 2 months without any setbacks?

Maybe he has some kind of muscle imbalance which is the root cause of his injuries and that imbalance needs to be rectified.

[LunasBoots]

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Call me a doom and gloomer, but I’d be budgeting on getting zero from Nisbet, McGeady, Magennis and Mitchell this season. They’re all going to be either injured or a “returning from injury shadow of themselves” version at best. Or maybe picking up another injury after they get over these injuries.

If we get more from any of them it should be considered to be a bonus.

Based on that, we build a squad accordingly.

In my opinion, based on getting lucky with further injuries, we’re a CH, a CM and a CF off having a squad that will compete for top 6.

Think we will see a fair bit of Nisbet but pretty concerned by the rest especially in a key position of creativity where Magennis should be playing, really think we are very short of what we need there.

[Coco Bryce]

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Wish I was carrying 'the timber' he is

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That was months ago 😂

[GreenGray]

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That was months ago

What and you think he will look worse after months of training than he does on his summer holidays?

Where’s your proof he needs to shift some timber?


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[Waxy]

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What and you think he will look worse after months of training than he does on his summer holidays?

Where’s your proof he needs to shift some timber?


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He’s bought a shed ftom ikea