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    If I was a foreign player and Hibs were in for me, all I would need is 5 minutes on this message board and I’d run a ****ing mile. Christ almighty, when did our fans turn into such drama queens? Every thread is practically unreadable after a defeat.
    You've just said what I was about to post, some of the stuff on here is unbelievable and in some cases abusive to what purpose?


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    Building him up in B team games is not the same as signing him for the B team. Kyle Magennis was playing B team games to get up to speed.

    In the quote you selected from Maloney he says the boy isn’t ready yet. Not that he won’t ever be ready or that it’ll be next season before he’s in the first team.

    Just the usual over-reaction nonsense that’s becoming more and more prevalent on here recently.
    Sorry mate but you usually post in a balanced way but your just sounding like someone doing PR for the club. Hibs have got the signings wrong two windows in a row. We all knew we needed players that can play now not in a few weeks or months time. The fans that turned up yesterday was roughly half of what was there against Hearts. The Hibs support is not daft. They can see a team that’s lost their way and unfortunately we don’t have the manager or players to turn this around at this time.

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    Sorry mate but you usually post in a balanced way but your just sounding like someone doing PR for the club. Hibs have got the signings wrong two windows in a row. We all knew we needed players that can play now not in a few weeks or months time. The fans that turned up yesterday was roughly half of what was there against Hearts. The Hibs support is not daft. They can see a team that’s lost their way and unfortunately we don’t have the manager or players to turn this around at this time.
    There was loads of other reasons why the crowd yesterday wasnt the same against Hearts. It wasn't a derby which always attracts a large or full capacity crowd, the weather was fairly p!sh, there was rugby later on, some folk can't afford to go to every game and other reasons and yes maybe for some because they don't like what they see on the pitch.

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    We signed him for the first team.

    The League in his country finished in November.

    He's currently being put through a 'mini pre season' training programme to get him up to speed to fit into the team.
    All the above has been explained/discussed in multiple threads already.
    No in Fifa players from Scandinavia come straight into your squad....

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    Jackson Irvine hadn’t played for 7 months and he came in and played right away, this boy is being mollycoddled imo. He’s not the only one at the club receiving this kind of treatment.

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    Jackson Irvine hadn’t played for 7 months and he came in and played right away, this boy is being mollycoddled imo. He’s not the only one at the club receiving this kind of treatment.
    Prior to coming in, Rocky had played twice all season, two under 23 games in October.

    Melkerson had played for his loan team between May and November, last game was 27th November.

    Rocky has come in and went right in to the team. Given the comments we’ve had about him being a long term one, the fact we’ve not seen him in a squad yet, it seems pretty clear we’re treating Melkerson a bit differently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B.H.F.C View Post
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    Prior to coming in, Rocky had played twice all season, two under 23 games in October.

    Melkerson had played for his loan team between May and November, last game was 27th November.

    Rocky has come in and went right in to the team. Given the comments we’ve had about him being a long term one, the fact we’ve not seen him in a squad yet, it seems pretty clear we’re treating Melkerson a bit differently.
    He definitely is, but apparently we’re morons and idiots for pointing that out.

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    He definitely is, but apparently we’re morons and idiots for pointing that out.
    Think it’s worth mentioning that none of us morons, idiots or whatever are having a go at Melkerson. Think some of us are just a bit puzzled as to why we’d spend a lot of money on someone for the future while neglecting the present. An important position that we’ve now neglected two windows in a row.

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    The communication from the club is to blame for why there are questions being asked about Melkerson’s availability. I’m not sure why people are so defensive about it but the majority of posts I see are asking relevant questions about what is going on with him considering we are currently bringing James Scott off the bench and results aren’t going well.

    As for the clubs communication. If he is injured? Tell us. If it is a personal reason then again why not say so. Why the club are featuring him in tweets and training photos and then he is nowhere to be seen on match days I find a bit odd. Simply saying he isn’t ready doesn’t tell us much at all.

    I’m sure the guy will be desperate to play football and why he isn’t even given 20/30 minutes ahead of James Scott is (imo) rightfully being questioned

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    Quote Originally Posted by B.H.F.C View Post
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    Think it’s worth mentioning that none of us morons, idiots or whatever are having a go at Melkerson. Think some of us are just a bit puzzled as to why we’d spend a lot of money on someone for the future while neglecting the present. An important position that we’ve now neglected two windows in a row.
    I totally agree, he was brought in with a lot of fanfare. It’s normal for fans to want to see him play. The last thing anyone wants to hear after the big build up he was given is that he’s one for the future.

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    He can't be any worse than James Scott that's for sure even if he isn't 'ready'.

    If he's good enough get him on the bench and give him minutes. Waste of money otherwise.

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    He can't be any worse than James Scott that's for sure even if he isn't 'ready'.

    If he's good enough get him on the bench and give him minutes. Waste of money otherwise.
    Yes let’s risk injuring him, great idea. I’d rather wait so that we don’t have to rely on James Scott ever, rather than just whatever game is up next

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    Yes but we lost so let’s forget all that and go ****ing radge.
    Quite right. I'm going to start a thread calling for Maloney's head and say it was a crap transfer window, ignoring the fact the players who we brought in have and have played have showed promise.

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    The danger the lad faces now is high expectations - when he does get onto the bench or into the side he could be written off if he’s not a 2 goal a game guy.

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    Yes let’s risk injuring him, great idea. I’d rather wait so that we don’t have to rely on James Scott ever, rather than just whatever game is up next
    If he's not injured theres no reason he couldn't be doing the role Scott is. By ready I meant match fitness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlickShoes View Post
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    Yes let’s risk injuring him, great idea. I’d rather wait so that we don’t have to rely on James Scott ever, rather than just whatever game is up next
    So are you saying we shouldn’t be playing Rocky either? He’s played less games and his games were longer ago than Melkerson. I get what people are trying to say and that we just have to trust the club to know when the time is right to play him, but the reasons being suggested on here don’t stack up when you look at other players who have signed recently.

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    So are you saying we shouldn’t be playing Rocky either? He’s played less games and his games were longer ago than Melkerson. I get what people are trying to say and that we just have to trust the club to know when the time is right to play him, but the reasons being suggested on here don’t stack up when you look at other players who have signed recently.
    It’s almost like they are two totally different people.

    We have been told he’s not fit enough to start and needs time but it seems only the coaches want to give him that time.

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    It’s almost like they are two totally different people.

    We have been told he’s not fit enough to start and needs time but it seems only the coaches want to give him that time.
    The criticism of Melkerson being unavailable isn’t aimed at him, it’s aimed at the club for failing to sign a striker in either of the last two windows who is fit, available and able to help the team.

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    Yes but we lost so let’s forget all that and go ****ing radge.
    Never has hibs.net been summarised so concisely 👍

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucky View Post
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    Sorry mate but you usually post in a balanced way but your just sounding like someone doing PR for the club. Hibs have got the signings wrong two windows in a row. We all knew we needed players that can play now not in a few weeks or months time. The fans that turned up yesterday was roughly half of what was there against Hearts. The Hibs support is not daft. They can see a team that’s lost their way and unfortunately we don’t have the manager or players to turn this around at this time.
    Sounding like PR from the club because I’m able to match up what the manager has said with what’s happening? Ok.
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    Ron the Con patter is absolutely dire. Should be a banning offence.

    How I yearn for the days we were bringing in over the hill journeymen like Rowan Vine and Tom Soares. Instead we’re signing players with big potential but we’ve already got a thread questioning why? Jesus god this place is getting worse.

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    Rocky hasn't played much but he's been training daily and has been in the middle of a season, albeit inactive first half for him. Melkersens season ended and he hasn't played since. He's also a lot smaller and more nimble which makes his adaptation to the Scottish league a bit harder than a 6ft + built like a brick s**t house centre back.

    Keep in mind we were pretty desperate for a CB, so Rocky was thrown in whether we wanted to or not, and we've been careful with him since he joined. Probably more of a necessity with Rocky whereas we have fit strikers, none firing but they're fit nonetheless so Melkersen can get a little longer to get up to speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Rhoades View Post
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    Ron the Con’s big youth policy signing
    Ron the con? Absolute jambo pattern that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jones28 View Post
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    Ron the Con patter is absolutely dire. Should be a banning offence.

    How I yearn for the days we were bringing in over the hill journeymen like Rowan Vine and Tom Soares. Instead we’re signing players with big potential but we’ve already got a thread questioning why? Jesus god this place is getting worse.
    I agree. Should get a week ban for posting pish like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B.H.F.C View Post
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    The criticism of Melkerson being unavailable isn’t aimed at him, it’s aimed at the club for failing to sign a striker in either of the last two windows who is fit, available and able to help the team.
    Yup.

    Whilst I get the point about him coming from another country, not played for a while etc, the silence from Hibs whilst using his pics non stop for promotional purposes for games is a really strange approach imo.

    If he’s not ready then fair enough. Would be nice to hear that though rather than see the build up for a game littered with pictures of him only for him to be nowhere to be seen.

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    How come Jasper is match fit and playing before him when he last played a first team game for Colchester about six weeks ago at the start of January, but Melkerson is still no even ready to sit on the bench and come on for 5/10 to get broken in gently since he’s supposedly not ready?

    It is beyond bizarre, we’ve by all accounts spent what is a fortune for Hibs but you’ve got James Scott who is let’s be honest absolute horse **** still more worthy of more game time

    All the more baffling when we are literally desperate for our next goal
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    How come Jasper is match fit and playing before him when he last played a first team game for Colchester about six weeks ago at the start of January, but Melkerson is still no even ready to sit on the bench and come on for 5/10 to get broken in gently since he’s supposedly not ready?

    It is beyond bizarre, we’ve by all accounts spent what is a fortune for Hibs but you’ve got James Scott who is let’s be honest absolute horse **** still more worthy of more game time

    All the more baffling when we are literally desperate for our next goal
    How much had Melkerson played before he came here and when does the Norwegian season run from and to? How easy is it to move from one country to another where the league seasons don't run concurrently, particularly for someone who's just turned 19? How easy is it to overplay a young player and cause them an injury by throwing them straight into matches after not long finishing a full season and without giving them a proper pre-season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
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    How much had Melkerson played before he came here and when does the Norwegian season run from and to? How easy is it to move from one country to another where the league seasons don't run concurrently, particularly for someone who's just turned 19? How easy is it to overplay a young player and cause them an injury by throwing them straight into matches after not long finishing a full season and without giving them a proper pre-season?
    So he’s still less of an effective option off the bench than James Scott? Overplay, I said a 10,20 min appearance off the bench no a start
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    Quote Originally Posted by .Sean. View Post
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    So he’s still less of an effective option off the bench than James Scott? Overplay, I said a 10,20 min appearance off the bench no a start

    It would also be a clear message to Scott what management think of him and his diet plan.

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    So he’s still less of an effective option off the bench than James Scott? Overplay, I said a 10,20 min appearance off the bench no a start
    Who do you think is best placed to know if he’s ready or not?

    I’d rather have almost any other player than James Scott but not if it is setting that player up to fail, for whatever reason.

    I remember Hearts signed some guy who was going to be a star for them, was banging the goals in and when he went to Hearts Levein chucked him straight in. Think he got 45 minutes before he was subbed. Potter slammed his condition and the guy was never seen again.
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