Var

[Northernhibee]

100% don't want VAR. VAR is there to ultimately help referees make decisions and its effectiveness comes down to how much you believe that poor refereeing decisions come from incompetence as opposed to outright bias.

I don't believe it would make one bit of difference to incorrect decisions in the Scottish game.

I want a code for selecting referees that is transparent, open to accountability and fair.

[at last 61]

100% want var but I want a non Scottish var ref, how many times have the ref's got things wrong against us, and to save time if a player goes down with an injury and its not a really bad one, especially cramp should be treated off the pitch, save time

[JeMeSouviens]

VAR as per the Euros =
VAR as per English Prem =

[brog]

With VAR there's 2 types of decisions to be made, subjective and non subjective, or factual. Offside, like goal line technology, falls into the latter category so I don't understand how anyone could be against that. I suspect on the more subjective decisions, in particular foul play, we would continue to suffer from OF bias, at least initially.

[WestEndHibee]

Personally think that VAR should have been introduced ages ago. The refs can then give the benefit of the doubt to the attacking team in play and there'd be far more drama in a match than in the horrifically boring 0-0 or 1-0 winter matches destroyed by a ref scared to let a team score for fear of getting it wrong.

Don't really understand why people complain about the breaks when, if used properly, would actually allow teams to get a breather ready to go again.

There's a lot I like football for but in keeping up with technology it needs to take a lesson from rugby that would now be a vastly inferior watch without video refs.

[hibbysam]

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Personally think that VAR should have been introduced ages ago. The refs can then give the benefit of the doubt to the attacking team in play and there'd be far more drama in a match than in the horrifically boring 0-0 or 1-0 winter matches destroyed by a ref scared to let a team score for fear of getting it wrong.

Don't really understand why people complain about the breaks when, if used properly, would actually allow teams to get a breather ready to go again.

There's a lot I like football for but in keeping up with technology it needs to take a lesson from rugby that would now be a vastly inferior watch without video refs.

There is 30 players in rugby, vast majority of the time 15/20 of them are in an extremely small area, and the two touch judges are manning the full length of the line. Again, it’s a far more difficult sport to police than football. It’s not the same.

[Waxy]

I’d say we should now use VAR. Too much money involved not to.

[hibbysam]

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I’d say we should now use VAR. Too much money involved not to.

The money to pay for it all the way down to league 2 is coming out the prize money for the top league. I’d rather we kept that money personally than pay for Cowdenbeath v Albion Rovers to have a video ref.

[Renfrew_Hibby]

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The money to pay for it all the way down to league 2 is coming out the prize money for the top league. I’d rather we kept that money personally than pay for Cowdenbeath v Albion Rovers to have a video ref.

Surely it would just be in the top league. Don't think Forest Green Rovers v Port Vale is subjected to VAR.

[hibbysam]

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Surely it would just be in the top league. Don't think Forest Green Rovers v Port Vale is subjected to VAR.

Press release last month I think was stating it would be in every SPFL game. Would be ridiculous when games in our pyramid can’t even have linesmen, amateur games are called off all over the shop for lack of referees, yet they’d find a potential 21 extra refs a week to sit in an office.

[Hibbyradge]

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Press release last month I think was stating it would be in every SPFL game. Would be ridiculous when games in our pyramid can’t even have linesmen, amateur games are called off all over the shop for lack of referees, yet they’d find a potential 21 extra refs a week to sit in an office.

I've only read that it will be installed in premiership games and the later rounds of cup competitions.

Not only does it need several cameras, it needs pitchside monitors and a VAR office.

I very much doubt that there's ever been any intention for all 42 grounds had to have it.

[lord bunberry]

I can’t stand var, I hope it never comes in up here. It might work for offside goals, but for everything else I expect the incompetent clowns operating the var to back up the incompetent clown making the decision on the pitch. Var is for people sitting at home watching on tv, it’s brutal for the fans in the stadium.

[Hibbyradge]

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I can’t stand var, I hope it never comes in up here. It might work for offside goals, but for everything else I expect the incompetent clowns operating the var to back up the incompetent clown making the decision on the pitch. Var is for people sitting at home watching on tv, it’s brutal for the fans in the stadium.

It's for the teams who have been the victim of a wrong decision.

There's masses of time lost by players feigning injury and deliberately wasting it than is ever lost by VAR.

I'm watching Everton v Villa and, so far, you wouldn't know VAR was in operation.

[HibbyDave]

Who do you suppose will be the VAR ref in a room somewhere?

Unless there is complete transparency with viewers able to listen to the refs conversation as they do in rugby then nothing will change.

Don’t hold your breath

[hibstag]

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With VAR there's 2 types of decisions to be made, subjective and non subjective, or factual. Offside, like goal line technology, falls into the latter category so I don't understand how anyone could be against that. I suspect on the more subjective decisions, in particular foul play, we would continue to suffer from OF bias, at least initially.

This where I am good for offside or goaline stuff. I can't wait until we get a goal disallowed for a dubious foul in the build up v the old firm

[Hibbyradge]

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Who do you suppose will be the VAR ref in a room somewhere?

Unless there is complete transparency with viewers able to listen to the refs conversation as they do in rugby then nothing will change.

Don’t hold your breath

If you think the referees are corrupt and that they'll continue to be corrupt despite the immediate TV evidence, then you're probably right.

If you think that referees are human and make mistakes which the TV evidence will allow them to remedy, then you're mistaken.

[MWHIBBIES]

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Who do you suppose will be the VAR ref in a room somewhere?

Unless there is complete transparency with viewers able to listen to the refs conversation as they do in rugby then nothing will change.

Don’t hold your breath

Yeah, with the world watching, refs are going to say ''don't send him off for that headbutt, he plays for rangers''

It will make a huge, huge difference. Absolutely no doubt about it. They cannot make daft mistakes, and they will not risk their career when they have replays to show them up.

[Hibbyradge]

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Yeah, with the world watching, refs are going to say ''don't send him off for that headbutt, he plays for rangers''

It will make a huge, huge difference. Absolutely no doubt about it. They cannot make daft mistakes, and they will not risk their career when they have replays to show them up.

That's 3 posts of yours in a row that I've agreed with now.

You've changed.

[MWHIBBIES]

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That's 3 posts of yours in a row that I've agreed with now.

You've changed.

Or you're correct more often these days

[Hibbyradge]

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Or you're correct more often these days

Ha ha. Very quick!

[basehibby]

It always seems to me that we lose more than we gain from poor decisions - so purely from that biased point of view I'd like to see technology used more to get things right. Certainly goal line technology would have seen us two goals to the good in derby matches this last decade (I think). So it's a YES from me.

[heretoday]

Sod VAR. It just holds up the game.

[HibbyDave]

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If you think the referees are corrupt and that they'll continue to be corrupt despite the immediate TV evidence, then you're probably right.

If you think that referees are human and make mistakes which the TV evidence will allow them to remedy, then you're mistaken.

Yes I’m right😎😎

I just want full transparency. Can’t see why that’s an issue.

[LunasBoots]

I was against it but now for it, don't think it will be long before we have it.

[lord bunberry]

I think it could turn fans away from attending games and unlike the premiership there’s not someone on a waiting list to take their place.

[Hibs Giant]

I'm 100% in favour of var. The old firm would still get the 50/50 decisions, but it would surely eliminate the routine howlers.

[The Harp Awakes]

I don't think VAR will provide the silver bullet in relation to incompetent/biased decisions by refs, but anything that provides more scrutiny over decisions made in a game has to be welcomed.

[hibbysam]

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I've only read that it will be installed in premiership games and the later rounds of cup competitions.

Not only does it need several cameras, it needs pitchside monitors and a VAR office.

I very much doubt that there's ever been any intention for all 42 grounds had to have it.

‘ Lower league clubs have been assured the estimated £60,000 yearly cost will be covered by Premiership clubs.’

That was the quote I’d read but looking at it again seems to suggest they are reassuring them they’re not paying for something they’re not using rather than clubs paying for the service for them. Apologies.

[MWHIBBIES]

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Sod VAR. It just holds up the game.

The ball is in play for about 30 minutes these days. Game can't get much worse

[lord bunberry]

Does anyone in favour of var think it will improve your match day experience? I’m very much a go to the game fan, I was there on Thursday and I’ll be there on Wednesday. I’m not trying to make it an Uber fan argument, but in my opinion var doesn’t do anything for the fans that are in the stadium. What will happen is decisions will be changed and those of us sitting in the stadium will be clueless as to why it’s happened and the fans watching on the tv will have to text us dafties that stupidly shelled out to go to the game.