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I don't see anything wrong in challenging the norms that it is okay to shout abuse at other people.
Can I ask the folk who have slated this thread why they think it is okay to hurl abuse at someone for not kicking a bit of leather the way they like it?
Do you hurl abuse in a restaurant when your meal isn't how you like it?
Do you hurl abuse at a co-workee when they don't complete a task properly?
Are you telling me you are incapable of creating atmosphere without hurling abuse?
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21-01-2022 10:38 AM #61
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21-01-2022 11:01 AM #62
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21-01-2022 11:06 AM #63This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Will never catch on
I bet you any money there were folk out there preparing the post-match rants for when we got beat.
There is a terrible atmosphere at ER and across most social media and its getting worse
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21-01-2022 11:14 AM #64
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21-01-2022 11:20 AM #65This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
It seems to be a football thing. But I've been to games in other countries where it doesn't seem to happen.
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21-01-2022 11:26 AM #67
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Internatuonal Rugby may be more sanitised I suppose, I came away feeling I'd been at a wedding reception or Hogmanay party as opposed to a sporting event the one and only time I've been to Murrayfield.Last edited by MikeyS; 21-01-2022 at 11:28 AM.
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21-01-2022 11:29 AM #68
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Why is the football different?
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21-01-2022 11:39 AM #69
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I may be way off the point here and I apologise if I'm picking you up incorrectly but are you advocating that supporters just come in and can only show emotions of a positive nature? We're you perfectly calm during or after the 5-1 Cup Final for example, so that you didn't further upset the players performances on that day?
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21-01-2022 11:45 AM #70
Maybe I'm just lucky but in recent times I always seem to end up areas where there is very little in the way of vitriolic abuse aimed directly at players. Only time I really recall it happening of late was in one of my rare forays into the West Upper and even then it was a handful of people.
There was a lot of general moaning last night but, certainly in my locality, very little real personal abuse. As I said on the other thread when Maloney came over to the fans at FT he got a fantastic reception from those of us exiting the East. The more general booing at HT and FT and the like is hardly a new thing. I have been a regular at ER for over 30 years now and it was well established when I 1st started going. Some of my earliest memories supporting Hibs are of abuse far worse than anything I hear now, when you read Joe Tortolano saying he remembers being booed (and worse) before a games even started then it would seem we have actually mellowed a bit as a support over the years. I've always thought of the generic boo when you are losing at HT as pantomime stuff, probably not all that helpful but it happens at every ground in the country and beyond.
I wasn't much of a supporter last night. I'm not one for really getting all angry at any time but neither am I one for leading the singing and last night was no exception. It was cold, the game wasn't great and I sat with my hands in my pockets for most of the 120 minutes waiting to go home. There were a few frustrated sighs and a bit of head shaking and obviously a cheer when we scored but that was your lot from me. People directly abusing players in a really horrible manner need to have a look at themselves. However if football became a consumer product that was reminiscent of sitting at the theatre then I'd lose the little remaining interest I have in the game. The tribalism and the emotive nature of it is what keeps me interested, for me and many others when it comes to Hibs it is very much more than a game. That is probably at the root of a lot of the frustration you heard coming from the stands last night.
I'll probably get grief for this but it's far easier to be judgmental about the behaviour of others and be less harsh about the performance of the team when you are sitting in the warm with a beer or a coffee, other distractions to keep you amused and an ability to jump straight into bed when the FT whistle went. No one has to justify their non attendance but there has to be an acknowledgment that a game looks and feels completely different depending on the circumstances of how you are watching it. For the minority in attendance it was far from a pleasant experience for a variety of reasons.PM Awards General Poster of The Year 2015, 2016, 2017. Probably robbed in other years
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21-01-2022 11:55 AM #71
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21-01-2022 11:59 AM #72
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Heck, even the 'wonderful' Terry Butcher when at ICT said their main game plan when coming down here was to get the fans frustrated as that impacted the Hibs players and lifted his own.. made it a great leveller he said.
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21-01-2022 12:01 PM #74
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Of course folk are going to shout stuff at a match and vent their displeasure.
I'm talking about specific continued abuse of individual players which seem to start before a player has even kicked a ball.
The guys around me looked like they had lost the plot.
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After that I'm perfectly chilled, maybe the few pints helps
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21-01-2022 12:33 PM #77
I tend to groan at the game when a player does something stupid, or we're playing poorly, but have never seen the point of consciously abusing our players or booing.
Yes, it's an 'atmosphere', but it's not one that's going to encourage the team
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21-01-2022 07:47 PM #78
I assume that those who want to yell abuse at players for 90 minutes would be fine with their own bosses/customers/passers by treating them like that at work?
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23-01-2022 08:57 AM #79
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Is this acceptable?
https://twitter.com/days_scottish/status/1485001592311103494?t=1EzWMOah99bvcbCFXKEpgQ&s=19
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23-01-2022 08:58 AM #80
Football fans are full of passion, desperate to see their team and their players flourish and succeed, frustrations are inevitable
for me though, there’s a sliding scale of how that comes out. Shouting ‘aww ffs’ at a mistake, or commenting that so-and-so is playing rubbish to your mate, isn't close to screaming dogs abuse at individuals, or telling them eff off, and I’ve yet to see anyone get better from being treated that way.
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23-01-2022 09:03 AM #81This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Well done to Liam Craig for making sure they all got in without anything else kicking off.
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23-01-2022 09:04 AM #82This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I understand the emotions with football and we all invest a lot into the fortunes of the team, taking wins and losses personally and you can see how people lose their rag to a degree, but the vast majority of us are able to control ourselves and know that abusing players isn’t really doing anyone any good.
I never understand, though, how people can have such an intense dislike for people they are there to SUPPORT. The players are on our side, there’s not one of them goes onto the pitch looking to let us down or make mistakes. Get behind them, don’t bring them down.Follow the Hibs podcast, Longbangers, on Twitter (@longbangers)
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23-01-2022 09:45 AM #83
Some folks can be told and reminded of the negative impact and yet still persist.
We often hear about confidence players. I’m surprised there has not been studies to illustrate to those maintaing their stance despite it all of the absolute error of their ways.
One direct example which fell of deaf ears was Yogis please regarding Nish (one of the highest scorers in the SP(F)L at the time.
Maybe if the persistent so-called Boo-boys looked at why they vent their spleens in that matter they might give it further consideration what’s at the root of it for them as clearly the impact it has on others is seemingly lost on them.
(not just the players, but their families but other fellow supporters including kids wondering what the heck is going on)."We know the people who have invested so far are simple fans." Vladimir Romanov - Scotsman 10th December 2012
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