First game tonight in about 2 years (2 young kid and a wife who works weekends)
I had forgotten how much abuse folk shouted at the players.
I was near the back of the West, and there was at least four guys who looked like they might burst with anger.
It's like folk forget there is actually another team on the park who are, surprisingly, not just going to allow Hibs to roll the ball into the net.
I get that it can get very frustrating at games but shouting abuse at the top of your lungs when you are at the back of the stand us just peeing off everyone around you. The players can't even hear you!
We should make the first 2 rows around the pitch designated abuse rows for folk who want the players to really hear them!
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20-01-2022 09:47 PM #1
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20-01-2022 09:48 PM #2
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20-01-2022 09:57 PM #3
It's widely accepted as part of the game, but that really needs to change.
We so often talk about professional players and staff needing 'thick skin', rather than focusing on those that shout abuse, write horrible things online, and generally overreact when they think a footballer isn't good enough. It's truly bizzare that it's just considered part and parcel of professional sport.
In most other industries, the kind of behaviours that happen on a daily basis in our treatment of footballers would be considered scandalous. And rightly so.
I genuinely believe it's one of those things we'll look back on in 10/15 years and think 'wow, we were so out of touch'.
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20-01-2022 10:04 PM #4
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20-01-2022 10:04 PM #6madhatterLeft by mutual consent!This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I genuinely only see it getting worse in the future. I wouldn't shout abuse but if I supported PSG and saw Messi lose the ball and not look bothered I'd be raging inside knowing that he'd be earning €500,000 that week.
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20-01-2022 10:07 PM #7
Worst and least warranted I've heard for a long time. I wonder what these clowns would have done had we lumped the ball aimlessly up the park like they seemed to want.
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20-01-2022 10:10 PM #8
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20-01-2022 10:17 PM #9This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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20-01-2022 10:22 PM #10
It was obvious to me that there was no lack of effort from the players tonight. Don't really know what good these so called supporters think booing and shouting abuse is going to achieve. Well done to the team for being professional and getting the job done.
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20-01-2022 10:28 PM #11
There have been threads in the past where topic of abuse has arisen and term was clarified - was justified by a small number over the years.
To those abusing Hibs players I suggest you watch a dyed in the wool Hibee (one of our own) Joe Tortolano talk of his experience - it was available via St Pats at one stage not sure if it’s still online. It’s one of the worst cases of abuse in my mind. I distinctly recall (at an away game at EEP or St Johnstone where Callum Milne was so disgusted he slammed the ball against the hoardings in frustration at a section of our own support. Shocking.
if you can watch that and still stand up for your actions when you see the impact it had, then you probably need to take a long hard look at yourself.Last edited by Viva_Palmeiras; 20-01-2022 at 10:32 PM.
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20-01-2022 11:09 PM #12This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Yes but that doesn’t apply at our club does it?
Some of our ‘supporters’ need to have a serious word with themselves. The abuse both at ER and on the socials is absolutely pathetic.
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20-01-2022 11:06 PM #13This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
The crowd shouting and getting worked up is part of the game at all levels and it has been since the game was invented, it’s called atmosphere.
If we ever get to the stage that fans are told exactly what they can and can’t say at a game we might as well call it a day.
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20-01-2022 11:13 PM #14This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Abusing players and staff isn't atmosphere, it's the opposite.Last edited by Vault Boy; 21-01-2022 at 12:04 AM.
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21-01-2022 05:41 AM #15
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You are quite rightly not allowed to shout rascist, sectarian (unless you are OF!) or homophobic abuse at folk.
So, it is, thankfully, already dictated by society what you can and can't shout. And also what is acceptable evolves.
The point is what the folk around me are doing is not appropriate, they are just not reading the room that everyone else thinks they are an erse.
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20-01-2022 09:59 PM #16
The abuse and booing was embarassing.
If Cove never had luck on their side and we had semi capable refs we would have been at least 1-0 up through Doidge and potentially 2 when he was through on goal. Wrong offsides saved them and would have made it a lot more comfortable.
It was always going to be a tough game, I don’t know why people think differently.
I mentioned on the match day thread that fans always moan about players and say they need to show composure, how about the fans show some too?
It was like spoilt brats the amount they were booing or if the players never launched it forward.
You could actually see a period in the game the players were starting to go away from what Maloney wanted because of the fans and funnily enough that’s when Cove had their best spell.
Maloney was seen telling Newell to ignore them and it will work and it did.
It took far longer than what I should of but we missed some amount of chances.
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20-01-2022 10:02 PM #17
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Just angry folk who can't see the effect of their behaviour of all the folk around them.
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21-01-2022 06:13 AM #18This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I get that fans want to vent frustration and the likes but this has taken on a whole new level in the last few years. Some of the abuse aimed at the players is disgusting, relentless and constant regardless of how they are playing, and there seems to be more and more of our (dwindling) support joining in.
Maloneys been in the door five minutes and he’s already being crucified in some social media quarters and from the stands. It’s ridiculous. The old guy and his son sat behind me last night literally had nothing good to say about any player barring mueller. They slated near enough everyone constantly. The absolute negativity and abuse they gave joe Newell, who I thought was very good at times last night, was utterly shameful at times.
Have we become the best team in the world in recent years and as we are not reaching the top with every kick of the ball we are merited in slagging, criticising and abusing the players constantly. No we’ve not and we shouldn’t be. I know it’s probably inherent at most clubs but if there was a league table for moaning fans we would be right up there challenging. Then the fans would moan if we didn’t win that as well.
I feel for some of our players and the crap that’s hurled at them. New manager, trying to teach old dogs new tricks overnight and we can’t just get behind it fully. It can be hard being a Hibby but there will be times when it can be easy and wonderful. Not for some fans though obviously
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It’s the fact you know that some of them start within seconds of the game starting - they know they’re going to do it, they get their kicks from doing it and yet they stand there with a Hibs scarve on.
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20-01-2022 10:02 PM #22
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Some of our fans are a bit pathetic likes
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20-01-2022 10:10 PM #23
I noticed as well during that spell
When the players started listening to the ‘noise’
Maloney I’m sure he said something along lines of keep the ball ignore the noise.
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20-01-2022 10:25 PM #24
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I've always found it odd that folk shout abuse at players for making mistakes, when not a single one of them would last 2 minutes playing on a pitch.
Why shout abuse at someone for not doing something perfectly, that you can't even do at all? Nout weird as folk...
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21-01-2022 10:28 AM #25
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21-01-2022 10:38 AM #26
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I don't see anything wrong in challenging the norms that it is okay to shout abuse at other people.
Can I ask the folk who have slated this thread why they think it is okay to hurl abuse at someone for not kicking a bit of leather the way they like it?
Do you hurl abuse in a restaurant when your meal isn't how you like it?
Do you hurl abuse at a co-workee when they don't complete a task properly?
Are you telling me you are incapable of creating atmosphere without hurling abuse?
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21-01-2022 11:01 AM #27
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It seems to be a football thing. But I've been to games in other countries where it doesn't seem to happen.
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21-01-2022 11:29 AM #29
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Why is the football different?
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