Jack Ross

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Appears to have came out and now being quite vocal about a couple of things.

The sacking
His close relationship with players
Selling Boyle
The final

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/8306142/jack-ross-breaks-silence-hibs-sacking-agonising-injustice/

https://canadanews.fr/jack-ross-on-his-celtic-hibs-premier-sports-cup-final-heartache-as-he-reveals-detailed-planning-which-went-into-big-day/

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/8306320/jack-ross-hibs-boyle-pursue-saudi-recent-chat/

An interesting quote from one of them “But at that stage I still felt sore at what had happened and it’s fair to say there were certain people within the club I wasn’t enamoured with.
“They were getting to be involved in a big game and yet I was in the house.
Injustice“

Wonder if he’d be saying the same about Boyle if he was the manager.

For as surprised as I was when he was sacked and the timing of it.

Our recent record was awful and the football was putting a lot of fans off going to games and the club recognised this with no obvious signs of improving.

[Halmyre Hibee]

It’s a results based business. The style of football sometimes wasn’t pleasing on the eye but he done reasonably well. Supporters were not going to matches which was partly down to the style of football on show and the owner made the difficult decision to try and change things for the better. Going to be interesting to see if it works out with Maloney.

[Scooter]

I don't think he's said anything wrong.

I really liked him, I'm still undecided if it was the right thing to do, I do probably think he should have been given a little more time

[Spike Mandela]

I think Hibs treated Jack Ross appallingly and think he did have some credit in the bank from the results over his two years. To sack him just before the cup final was foolhardy, mean and unHibslike imo.

Obviously I hope Shaun Maloney does well and takes us onward and upward but I wonder if they might end up regretting getting rid of Ross when they did. Time will tell.

[basehibby]

Everything he says is totally fair - albeit we were on a poor run I definitely thought he had some credit in the bank and to boot him before the cup final was an extremely sore one. Sacking him at that point probably didnt do anything for our chances of winning the final and I'll be honest - I was gobsmacked. But it seems that Ron did not agree with that assessment and he's the man in charge. I hope his judgement is good and that Maloney will prove to be a great appointment. He'll have to be by the look of things or wont last long!

[007]

Don't have any issues with what he's said and wish him good luck in his next appointment.

[CB Hibs 68]

Read the article in the Record.If I was Ross there is no doubt I would be disappointed at the timing of his sacking.Problem for him was that he was on a very disappointing run of form and the fans were split in terms of whether to keep him or not.Personally I was in the keep him camp but could see why Ron made the decision.What pisses me off about the article I read was Martin Boyle being on the blower to him to seek his advice and him making this public knowledge.Typical media coverage which reflects negatively on the club.Boyle can go when Hibs valuation is met not before.

[neil7908]

At this point I just want to move on. Jack hasn't said anything wrong, and he has a right of course to speak about these things but as I fan I'm tired of hearing about Lennon, Stubbs etc.

Full support to Maloney and let's keep our eyes on the road ahead rather than what's behind us.

[Greenio]

Fair enough.

Ive always said he had more credit in the bank to be let go when he did and the fact it denied him a final was an just an xtra swift kick in the baws he didn't deserve.

Clearly this is him putting himself in the shop window, be interesting to see where he ends up.

Good luck to the guy

[Winston Ingram]

I don’t think he’s said anything wrong there apart from sticking his nose into the Boyle situation.

He’s still employed by Hibs so he might be getting a rap on the knuckles from us.

You never really see sacked managers acknowledge their failings when they are sacked.

Our football was dull, we really lacked intensity, tactically he was utterly baffling at times and the regression of Nisbet has been spectacular.

I think however there’s a good manager in there. He speaks really well, the players like him, but he probably needs to change his back room staff to help him tactically because at the moment, he’s miles off it.

[hibby rae]

I left the final thinking if Ross had been in charge we would have won the game.

And it's possible Gordon wanted to get rid of Ross for a while and he recognised he had a small window of opportunity where kr could be seen as an understandable decision. If we had won the cup under Ross it would have been very difficult to justify letting him go.

Not sure it was the right call letting him go, I do acknowledge style of play could be bad sometimes, however when Maloney was linked he was the one I wanted and early signs are good. Hopefully by the end of the season we can say it was the right thing to do.

I wonder if Queens Park would be a good shout for Ross moving forwards. Got a bit of money, seem to be going the right direction. Getting them into the Championship would be good for his cv and I don't think there's many other attractive options in Scotland for him.

[JohnM1875]

'I'm not bitter about it. But...'

Regardless of whether I thought he should have been sacked or not I don't think anyone would have grudged him being in charge for the final. So I agree with him there.

[G15 Hibs]

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I wonder if Queens Park would be a good shout for Ross moving forwards. Got a bit of money, seem to be going the right direction. Getting them into the Championship would be good for his cv and I don't think there's many other attractive options in Scotland for him.

Perhaps notable that John Potter took up a coaching role at Queen's Park last week.

[CapitalGreen]

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I left the final thinking if Ross had been in charge we would have won the game.

That’s interesting because I left the Dundee, St Mirren, Dun Utd, Aberdeen, Ross County, Motherwell and Livingston games prior to his sacking thinking if a better manager had been in charge we would have won the game.

[Hibbyradge]

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Read the article in the Record.If I was Ross there is no doubt I would be disappointed at the timing of his sacking.Problem for him was that he was on a very disappointing run of form and the fans were split in terms of whether to keep him or not.Personally I was in the keep him camp but could see why Ron made the decision.What pisses me off about the article I read was Martin Boyle being on the blower to him to seek his advice and him making this public knowledge.Typical media coverage which reflects negatively on the club.Boyle can go when Hibs valuation is met not before.

I think players can take advice from whomever they want. There is no reflection on the club at all.

Martin lnows JR well, gets on with him, and respects and trusts him.

Whether JR was in the best frame of mind to give advice regarding Hibs or not is anyone's guess.

[bingo70]

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I don’t think he’s said anything wrong there apart from sticking his nose into the Boyle situation.

He’s still employed by Hibs so he might be getting a rap on the knuckles from us.

You never really see sacked managers acknowledge their failings when they are sacked.

Our football was dull, we really lacked intensity, tactically he was utterly baffling at times and the regression of Nisbet has been spectacular.

I think however there’s a good manager in there. He speaks really well, the players like him, but he probably needs to change his back room staff to help him tactically because at the moment, he’s miles off it.

I think he’s a decent manager, no more, no less. I don’t think he’ll ever go on to do anything brilliant but then I could see him getting a job soon enough at a smaller club and doing alright. I wonder if he might even find himself as something of a firefighter specialist. The sort of guy that clubs can turn to in order to get themselves out of trouble, but not someone you see as taking the club forward.

I’m not surprised he’s disappointed at being sacked, on paper he did a pretty decent job and that’s the way he’ll judge his time here.

Unfortunately for him, doing a good job on paper doesn’t put bums on seats and there was enough there to suggest too many people weren’t buying into his Hibs team. I don’t doubt he would have arrested the slide and stopped the losing run. Would he have turned it around to the extent that people wanted to pay good money to watch his Hibs team? I personally don’t think there’s any chance of that. The only way the club will grow is by getting fans into the stadium and I’m personally delighted our owner has recognised that.

Ross says there it’s a results business, when you’re employed in the game I understand why he would think that, he also needs to recognise its in the entertainment industry as well though.

That’s his last 2 jobs he’s been sacked while complaining he’s been harshly treated, he maybe needs to reflect on that as well though.

Good luck to the guy, he wasn’t my cup of tea but I’m sure he’ll get an alright job in the not too distant future. No issues with anything he says in the papers today.

[hibby rae]

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That’s interesting because I left the Dundee, St Mirren, Dun Utd, Aberdeen, Ross County, Motherwell and Livingston games prior to his sacking thinking if a better manager had been in charge we would have won the game.

It's a funny old game. We'd be fighting for the league title if we'd won those.

[CapitalGreen]

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It's a funny old game. We'd be fighting for the league title if we'd won those.

A win in just half of them and we wouldn’t be trailing an average Hearts team by 10 points.

[EVENTUALLY]

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Appears to have came out and now being quite vocal about a couple of things.

The sacking
His close relationship with players
Selling Boyle
The final

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/spo...ing-injustice/

https://canadanews.fr/jack-ross-on-h...-into-big-day/

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/spo...i-recent-chat/

An interesting quote from one of them “But at that stage I still felt sore at what had happened and it’s fair to say there were certain people within the club I wasn’t enamoured with.
“They were getting to be involved in a big game and yet I was in the house.
Injustice“

Wonder if he’d be saying the same about Boyle if he was the manager.

For as surprised as I was when he was sacked and the timing of it.

Our recent record was awful and the football was putting a lot of fans off going to games and the club recognised this with no obvious signs of improving.

I'd guess Ian Gordon.

[hibby rae]

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Perhaps notable that John Potter took up a coaching role at Queen's Park last week.

I imagine he had a good relationship with Leeane Dempster as well.

Would be a bit of a statement by Queens. And it's seen as quite acceptable for managers to drop down a level to kickstart their careers.
E.g. Clarke going to Killie, Hartley to Cove, McInnes to Killie, even Lennon to us.

[hibby rae]

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A win in just half of them and we wouldn’t be trailing an average Hearts team by 10 points.

Hearts have the best keeper in the league. If they didn't have him they'd be around where we are. 10 points is not a massive number at this point in the season, especially with 3 derbies to go.

I think for a lot of those, you need to take into account players missing. The Dundee Utd one being a prime example, the spine of the team was out. Others we could have done better but the opposition played well and were worthy of rhe pint e.g. St Mirren.

[LunasBoots]

In hindsight should have been given the final, his football style however left alot to be desired this season, performances and style of play dropped away to unacceptable levels and that falls on the management

[erin go bragh]

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I left the final thinking if Ross had been in charge we would have won the game. 🤷*♂️🤷*♂️

And it's possible Gordon wanted to get rid of Ross for a while and he recognised he had a small window of opportunity where kr could be seen as an understandable decision. If we had won the cup under Ross it would have been very difficult to justify letting him go.

Not sure it was the right call letting him go, I do acknowledge style of play could be bad sometimes, however when Maloney was linked he was the one I wanted and early signs are good. Hopefully by the end of the season we can say it was the right thing to do.

I wonder if Queens Park would be a good shout for Ross moving forwards. Got a bit of money, seem to be going the right direction. Getting them into the Championship would be good for his cv and I don't think there's many other attractive options in Scotland for him.

Jack Ross never tasted victory for us agains Celtic. Fwiw If SM had been appointed a week earlier, I think we might have beat them .

[bingo70]

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I'd guess Ian Gordon.

It was also meant to be Graham Mathie.

If thats Mathie and Ian Gordon he didn’t get on with, the people at Sunderland he fell out with about the signing of Will Grigg and Craig Levein when he left Hearts (I know I know)…… maybe its him that needs to look at how he manages relationships at clubs.

He strikes me as someone that doesn’t like to be challenged, see also the argument he had with St Mirren fans in the stand, maybe that’s part of the problem here.

I don’t know though, never met the man.

[hibby rae]

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Jack Ross never tasted victory for us agains Celtic. Fwiw If SM had been appointed a week earlier, I think we might have beat them .

Tbf we could have said the same thing before the semi about Rangers too.

I would probably agree with your point about Maloney as well. My feeling is that SDG, understandably as he was only temp manager, was reluctant to, or unsure of, making changes when they were needed in the game. One of Ross' strengthes was making changes which swung a game

[CapitalGreen]

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Hearts have the best keeper in the league. If they didn't have him they'd be around where we are. 10 points is not a massive number at this point in the season, especially with 3 derbies to go.

I think for a lot of those, you need to take into account players missing. The Dundee Utd one being a prime example, the spine of the team was out. Others we could have done better but the opposition played well and were worthy of rhe pint e.g. St Mirren.

The only guaranteed starter really missing in that Dun Utd defeat compared to our win on Boxing Day was Porteous. That’s no excuse for getting pumped 3-0 at home by a team who have averaged less than 1 goal a game this season.

[CapitalGreen]

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In hindsight should have been given the final, his football style however left alot to be desired this season, performances and style of play dropped away to unacceptable levels and that falls on the management

Giving him the final would have delayed getting our new manager in and we’d now probably be sitting closer to 20 points off 3rd rather than 10.

[SlickShoes]

The rangers game was an outlier, the other games we played with Ross as manager leading up to his sacking went the exact same way almost as the games we played after he was sacked, we looked equally as bad, ponderous, lost.

Even in the cup final, we made the same defensive lapses we had been making all season under Ross, it was almost like he was still there.

I liked him as our manager, but now he is not and he has an axe to grind, so I'll take whatever he says with a pinch of salt and move on.

[Danderhall Hibs]

I’m surprised at the lasting dislike some have for him.

I just hope support future managers when they have a bad spell.

[Nicho87]

So basically focus on the good times and forget the miserable run he was on and how the fans were dwindling away and also calling for his head.

Sorry but it was good (results) first 16 months. After that it was always a case of defending the players and being too one dimensional.

Will be a good appointment for a st Johnstone etc but his football wasn’t pleasing on the eye. We were warned by Sunderland fans and that came true eventually.