Not trigger happy in wanting him sacked, more in the sense of deciding his style of football isn't working.Absolutely Belgium didn't get to top spot by just changing managers, they changed way they approached games, changed mindsets, changed culture,brought players into the set up that could play the way the management team wanted to play , and those weren't always the best players, but played well in the structure.These things do take time and players have to adapt to that.Shaun brought on more attacking players when Motherwell went down to 10 men, but they fitted in to the structure.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I'm sure we will get players in that will fit into the way the manager wants us to play, and ones that can't will move on.
Next 2-3 days, rest of season plus summer window will give us more of an idea of what he wants and then we can judge whether he's successful or not
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Thread: Shaun Maloney - Style of play
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27-01-2022 09:40 PM #721
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27-01-2022 09:57 PM #722This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
As for the style of play, I am willing to sit a wait and see. I think many fans are getting caught up by the fact Hearts are doing well. If they had a stuttering return and sat 2 points behind, the negative noise would be turned down.
It's very early days but both interested and excited to see how this builds. We don't have it in the final third yet but thank F for defending crosses and not shelling it after 20 passes.
Ross (not a bad manager) was fortunate to have Boyle as he glossed over so many issues that Hecky had (also not a bad manager). Early days but the new management team is building something different, and I’m enjoying watching it so far with hope and expectation.
Aberdeen, Hearts (and, to a lesser extent so far, Dundee United) are all building something like us, so it’s not going to be easy. However, I think it will raise all our games and be a fun watch.
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27-01-2022 09:59 PM #723
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When I have seen Hearts, Gordon keeps them in a lot the games.
He is safe and an excellent shot stopper. There are stats out there that for a team in 3rd place, Gordon has proportionately faced more shots on goal than any other goalkeeper in the league. Not seen him make many errors other than the one he made last night.
The players signed by Hearts are of no better pedigree than the players signed by Hibs. Most of them are loans, players unable to get a regular first team start or signed from the lower leagues in England.
The points difference is mainly due to that period of 10 games where we could not win one, which ultimately led to Ross getting sacked. We have finished above them in the league for the last 4-5 seasons and there was always going to be a time when, with their benefactor, they would get some signings right.
However, Gordon is having a great season. Him and because we are in transition are the main reasons why they are ahead of us and probably will be by at the end of the season.
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27-01-2022 10:11 PM #724
Has anyone noticed the back 3 seen not to stray forward as much under Maloney?
Under JR there was loads of times mcginn or hanlon would be supporting the left or mid midfielders getting forward and putting crosses in as where it seems they are now staying back,
Know it’s early days but it was pretty noticeable yesterday against 10 men
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27-01-2022 10:32 PM #725
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That has always been one of my favourite things about playing a back 3, I think Hanlon did it brilliantly under Lennon for example.
I imagine Maloney wants them to remain back as a permanent passing option for the midfield instead of marauding forward.
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27-01-2022 11:28 PM #726
I do think we’re progressing under Maloney. We did get into good areas against Motherwell, but were inadequate on the night when it came to converting those chances. We did the same against Cove - as well as having what should have been a perfectly legitimate goal disallowed.
We had several games under Ross after we didn’t get a shot on target, but in those games the biggest distance was that we never seemed to be able to string more than two passes together - there’s a marked difference there under Maloney.
He’s not had anything like his strongest eleven yet, imho. There is much more to come from this side.Follow the Hibs podcast, Longbangers, on Twitter (@longbangers)
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28-01-2022 12:01 AM #727
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Once we're at full strength I think we'll see this more, hence the acquisition of players like Clarke and Mitchell. I was brought up a Newcastle fan and as much as I'd love to see us replicate the Keegan years, we simply don't have the players yet to go swashbuckling!
Give it time, I'm confident it'll reap rewards 👍
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Could have thought that was a tired pass to play
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28-01-2022 07:06 AM #734
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I like what Maloney is doing, reminds me of Tony Mowbray and getting in younger, hungrier players who are eager to get first team football. Moving on Gogic, Allan and Hallberg is exactly what we needed to do, I just hope like Mowbray he’s able to unearth a Boozy type player and a right battler like Kevin Thomson. I’m not so worried about getting a ‘like for like’ for Boyle, if we are able to add real creative play from midfield. We’ve yet to see what Hauge and Melkerson offer and that’s exciting - both might have pace to their game. The key to getting up the table is finding genuine creativity in that middle area.
I must admit, Charles Cook does have everything you look for in a wide player - plays with confidence and a smile on his face, he’d definitely be one I’d want Hibs to test Ross County with an offer.
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28-01-2022 07:54 AM #735
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Funny you should say that but I was thinking the same and it reminded me of the Bertie Auld era.
Maybe Bertie was just ahead of his time
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Once we have Porteous and Hanlon back, plus Clarke if he’s utilised at CB then I’d be expect to see the centre backs stepping forward into midfield a bit more.
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28-01-2022 12:01 PM #742This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I mean't the defenders being told not to go forward. I can't remember who it was but one of the early 80's team discussed it years later.
He said they were in a training game and, as was the norm, he charged up the field with the ball, so Bertie shouted 'stop the f#ckin gemme!' and told him in no uncertain terms to never do that again.
Honestly, the guy would be a big hit in modern football
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28-01-2022 12:45 PM #743
I noticed it and thought it totally neutralised the man advantage we had after they had the man sent off.
We had lots of men back contributing little whilst we toiled to create further forward.
I did think that prior to that it was quite a nice, tight defensive set up that gave away very little by way of chances to Motherwell.
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28-01-2022 12:50 PM #744
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Win tomorrow and all will be rosey in the garden. Amazing what wins will do.
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28-01-2022 05:37 PM #746
I’m putting my neck on the line here, I think we’ll batter them tomorrow.
Maloney isn’t daft and knows exactly what the problem is despite what he says in the press.
I think we’ll be very attacking tomorrow. Porteous back will make a huge difference also in playing out.
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While we were playing our no shots on target borefest against Motherwell Hearts were gaining plaudits for their attacking efforts from which Celtic were lucky to escape-shots on target. 1.
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