"Block 7"?

**B.H.F.C** · 30-11-2021 03:27 PM

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Our city neighbours, some will jump on that but their attendances are what ours should be.

They’re not selling run of the mill league games but they are getting more in to the stadium than us.

The map for tomorrow looks really poor (and that’s before you consider quite a few of those seats that are sold will be unoccupied).

**DIXIHIBS** · 30-11-2021 03:27 PM

Think theres a few reasons our attendances are down. Rangers/celtic/hertz have remained strong. Huns...league champs. Celtic...new manager/decent signings. Hertz...promoted and big chip on shoulder after being demoted. Hibs had a good last season but it all ended very flat after cup final etc. There was no buzz about the club at the start of the season. Hopefully things are starting to look up now. You saw how beating huns at hampden that one game can lift the whole club. Fans will start to drift back...it just takes a bit of time....and a few big wins.

**~~90274~~** · 30-11-2021 03:30 PM

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The map for tomorrow looks really poor (and that’s before you consider quite a few of those seats that are sold will be unoccupied).

Yes, the FF Lower will look virtually empty tomorrow night.

**DIXIHIBS** · 30-11-2021 03:32 PM

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Yes, the FF Lower will look virtually empty tomorrow night.

You need to back tae keekback.

***weecounty hibby*** · 30-11-2021 03:37 PM

Anybody who compares hearts attendances with ours needs to have a look at their games on the telly. There were masses of spaces at tiny on Saturday. Not sure what they claimed as the attendance but it sure as **** wasn't north of 14000

**~~90274~~** · 30-11-2021 03:37 PM

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You need to back tae keekback.

No, the problem with the FF Lower is a current hot topic and related to this thread. It is where Block 7 should be located long term. That fact is clear as day.

And our home attendances this season are a concern. You said it yourself, we need results in the bigger games to get people back.

**ancient hibee** · 30-11-2021 03:45 PM

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Covid?

And live TV.

***brog*** · 30-11-2021 03:55 PM

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Think it's been said a few times on here that cutting prices by a few quid doesn't really have the desired effect, to any great level anyway.

Putting them up though is always going to give people the opportunity to bother less often or not at all.

Fair to say Hibs are suffering from this more than others? Most other attendances look steady, both from the fake figures and how stadiums look on match day. ER is about half empty though, and at least 2k down on where we'd realistically look to be.

There's been many studies which show that price cutting, unless really dramatic, has very little effect on attendances. I agree, is someone who won't pay £26 to go to The Well game on Saturday going to go if its reduced to £22 or even £20? I seriously doubt it. At the end of the day it's the product on the park which sells tickets. Demand also creates demand. When we had 14k season tickets, the walk ups sold quickly because there weren't many spare tickets, now there are plenty. Add to that the continuing pandemic uncertainty and our erratic form and the downturn in numbers is understandable. Win the cup and we'll sell a decent number of half season tickets.

**~~90274~~** · 30-11-2021 03:59 PM

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There's been many studies which show that price cutting, unless really dramatic, has very little effect on attendances. I agree, is someone who won't pay £26 to go to The Well game on Saturday going to go if its reduced to £22 or even £20? I seriously doubt it. At the end of the day it's the product on the park which sells tickets. Demand also creates demand. When we had 14k season tickets, the walk ups sold quickly because there weren't many spare tickets, now there are plenty. Add to that the continuing pandemic uncertainty and our erratic form and the downturn in numbers is understandable. Win the cup and we'll sell a decent number of half season tickets.

Good Post, when put like that the SPFL really have shafted Hibs. I wonder how many half season tickets we might have sold with the guarantee of a Cup Final Ticket?

With more tickets available an offer could have been run but the club went with two per season ticket.

***JimBHibees*** · 30-11-2021 04:01 PM

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And live TV.

Yep season ticket holders able to watch the game in their house will be an undoubted factor plus live tv. Wouldn't miss tomorrow for the world think it will be an excellent game.

**B.H.F.C** · 30-11-2021 04:04 PM

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There's been many studies which show that price cutting, unless really dramatic, has very little effect on attendances. I agree, is someone who won't pay £26 to go to The Well game on Saturday going to go if its reduced to £22 or even £20? I seriously doubt it. At the end of the day it's the product on the park which sells tickets. Demand also creates demand. When we had 14k season tickets, the walk ups sold quickly because there weren't many spare tickets, now there are plenty. Add to that the continuing pandemic uncertainty and our erratic form and the downturn in numbers is understandable. Win the cup and we'll sell a decent number of half season tickets.

Everything noted there is valid but I think, ultimately, it just comes down to how much folk want to go and watch. A lot of folk, whatever the reason, just aren’t that fussed for going to watch this team. Season ticket holders next to me aren’t turning up all the time and it’s not really for any other reason than the fact they can’t really be bothered.

Of all the reasons I think Covid will probably be having the smallest impact. There will undoubtedly be people who are steering clear of this type of setting but I don’t think it’ll account for too big a number of the empty seats.

***hibeerealist*** · 30-11-2021 04:09 PM

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Other clubs are selling out run of the mill League Games and stadiums are full in England. We have almost sold out for a Cup Final but our home attendances remain poor. Large away supports taken to Motherwell, Hearts, Dundee, Dundee Utd and Aberdeen.

Performances on the pitch will always dictate our attendance figures.

***Alfred E Newman*** · 30-11-2021 04:09 PM

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Out of interest do displays require approval from Hibs before they are displayed?

I would imagine the club would want to know , especially if it involves some sort of wording .

***Keith_M*** · 30-11-2021 04:25 PM

Not meaning to disagree with anybody regarding performances, but two of our last three games have been pretty exciting.

Hopefully we can keep that going and encourage people to attend more regularly. Winning the League Cup would definitely help as well :)

FWIW,I do know one person that doesn't want to go to games just now because they're worried about Covid, though obviously I've no idea how widespread that is.

***Brightside*** · 30-11-2021 04:42 PM

How a request from the Block 7 guys can turn into the usual suspects slagging the club again is highly depressing.

***JimBHibees*** · 30-11-2021 04:46 PM

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How a request from the Block 7 guys can turn into the usual suspects slagging the club again is highly depressing.

That not singular

**Broken Gnome** · 30-11-2021 04:52 PM

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How a request from the Block 7 guys can turn into the usual suspects slagging the club again is highly depressing.

You can't exactly have a red line on every thread which somehow or supposedly can't be crossed.

And naturally, supporter group ambitions becomes a talking point about the size of support when there aren't enough supporters.

**hibbysam** · 30-11-2021 04:57 PM

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Everything noted there is valid but I think, ultimately, it just comes down to how much folk want to go and watch. A lot of folk, whatever the reason, just aren’t that fussed for going to watch this team. Season ticket holders next to me aren’t turning up all the time and it’s not really for any other reason than the fact they can’t really be bothered.

Of all the reasons I think Covid will probably be having the smallest impact. There will undoubtedly be people who are steering clear of this type of setting but I don’t think it’ll account for too big a number of the empty seats.

Covid right now will be having a small impact, but the biggest impact for me is coming out of the pandemic - people being used to not going, the habit of watching us on tele last year was easy to say ‘**** it I’ll do something else’ and it’s hard to turn that around. Of course other clubs are the same but it’s easy to see why they’re getting crowds. Rangers and Celtic will sell out regardless when they are in the same league, hearts felt an injustice, got promoted and have started very well. They also gave shedloads of tickets away.

Our support latched onto the boring tag last season and it’s continued this year. I must admit I play Saturdays but still have my season ticket, have barely been this season though, either through playing or going to watch Preston. That’s nothing to do with the team but just find it easier to stay local and get decent value.

***LeithMike*** · 30-11-2021 04:58 PM

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Hibs giving tickets sold as opposed to through the turnstile really does mask the problem.

Attendances have been very poor this season.

You do have to wonder what is the biggest factor on attendances, pricing or the manager and performances on the pitch?

I think there is a bit of a glass ceiling effect after coming 3rd last year. Hearts are now getting better crowds as they can see an upwards trajectory and don't quite know where the limit is yet. It was the same with us when we got promoted and got better crowds than Hearts who had started to stagnate. We were on the up and we didn't know where the limit was. After a few years, the freshness is lost and its a case of best we can do is 3rd and we play the same teams 4 times. I think Aberdeen have suffered from this too.

Not sure what you do to address this but its fairly symptomatic of having 2 dominant teams sharing the top prize between themselves and stifling competition.

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**007** · 30-11-2021 05:27 PM

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Covid right now will be having a small impact, but the biggest impact for me is coming out of the pandemic - people being used to not going, the habit of watching us on tele last year was easy to say ‘**** it I’ll do something else’ and it’s hard to turn that around. Of course other clubs are the same but it’s easy to see why they’re getting crowds. Rangers and Celtic will sell out regardless when they are in the same league, hearts felt an injustice, got promoted and have started very well. They also gave shedloads of tickets away.

Our support latched onto the boring tag last season and it’s continued this year. I must admit I play Saturdays but still have my season ticket, have barely been this season though, either through playing or going to watch Preston. That’s nothing to do with the team but just find it easier to stay local and get decent value.

That's the 1st I've heard about Hearts giving loads of tickets away. Where did you hear/read about that one and how many have they given away?

**B.H.F.C** · 30-11-2021 05:42 PM

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Covid right now will be having a small impact, but the biggest impact for me is coming out of the pandemic - people being used to not going, the habit of watching us on tele last year was easy to say ‘**** it I’ll do something else’ and it’s hard to turn that around. Of course other clubs are the same but it’s easy to see why they’re getting crowds. Rangers and Celtic will sell out regardless when they are in the same league, hearts felt an injustice, got promoted and have started very well. They also gave shedloads of tickets away.

Our support latched onto the boring tag last season and it’s continued this year. I must admit I play Saturdays but still have my season ticket, have barely been this season though, either through playing or going to watch Preston. That’s nothing to do with the team but just find it easier to stay local and get decent value.

Your example is kind of the point I’m trying to make in that for all the reasons given from cost to Covid to games being on TV, folk just don’t value actually going enough just now. When folk have already parted with their hard earned cash and still aren’t really fussed for going, that’s a problem for the club IMO. As I mentioned there are folk around me who were previously there every week that just pick and choose these days, even though they still have their season ticket.

***Billy Whizz*** · 30-11-2021 05:45 PM

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That's the 1st I've heard about Hearts giving loads of tickets away. Where did you hear/read about that one and how many have they given away?

Maybe he meant cheap season tickets, as they didn’t get the full no of games in the championship. Lad I’ve just been on holiday with, him and his wife got £200 off each of their tickets

**007** · 30-11-2021 05:46 PM

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Maybe he meant cheap season tickets, as they didn’t get the full no of games in the championship. Lad I’ve just been on holiday with, him and his wife got £200 off each of their tickets

Ah right, thanks. Bit pointless comparing us to them then.

***Itsnoteasy*** · 30-11-2021 10:34 PM

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That's the 1st I've heard about Hearts giving loads of tickets away. Where did you hear/read about that one and how many have they given away?

My best mate a jambo. Adult & Child season tix.
Ann Budge guaranteed the fans 18 home games. When this could not be achieved they started to throw all different options at him.

1. We will allow you to watch on Hearts TV. If you watch one game you've effectively committed to the whole season, whether watching 1 game or 18.
He refused & never logged into Hearts TV.

2. Give you the value of season tickets to spend in club shop.
He refused.

3. Give you the value of season ticket to spend in hospitality.
He refused.

4. 2 season tix this season & never paid a penny towards them.

***tamig*** · 30-11-2021 11:11 PM

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At the risk of spoiling the surprise, walked past this morning and looks like its a flag for every seat of the new white "HFC" seats. So maybe head along a little earlier if you can if you're on a white seat.

I drove past last night and saw what I thought were a load of flags beside the new white lettering on the seats.

**007** · 01-12-2021 06:49 AM

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My best mate a jambo. Adult & Child season tix.
Ann Budge guaranteed the fans 18 home games. When this could not be achieved they started to throw all different options at him.

1. We will allow you to watch on Hearts TV. If you watch one game you've effectively committed to the whole season, whether watching 1 game or 18.
He refused & never logged into Hearts TV.

2. Give you the value of season tickets to spend in club shop.
He refused.

3. Give you the value of season ticket to spend in hospitality.
He refused.

4. 2 season tix this season & never paid a penny towards them.

And they've got the cheek to slag off our ticket sales. That's Jambos for you. Still, at least what you've described gives us an easy response. 👍

**B.H.F.C** · 01-12-2021 06:55 AM

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And they've got the cheek to slag off our ticket sales. That's Jambos for you. Still, at least what you've described gives us an easy response. 👍

Even with the above I don’t think they sold a huge amount more season tickets than us.

Think where we have a bit of an issue is the moment is with the number of seats bought going unused. Tonight for example, with season tickets, away tickets and hospitality sold out that gives you 15-16k tickets sold (before walk ups) but there’s no way there’ll only be 4K empty seats.

**The_Exile** · 01-12-2021 08:11 AM

People just simply have less disposable income to spend these days with everything going up apart from wages. Edinburgh ain’t a cheap place to live in comparison to other places in Scotland with big football clubs. Football, for many, is easily the first thing that gets chopped from the monthly budget.