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    World Cup Play off Draw

    Live today 4pm UK. Not sure if they are doing both semi and Final draws, but would make sense

    Seeded Teams
    Portugal
    Scotland
    Italy
    Russia
    Sweden
    Wales

    Unseeded
    Austria
    North Macedonia
    Turkey
    Poland
    Ukraine
    Czech Republic

    So who do you want in the semi final?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Whizz View Post
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    Live today 4pm UK. Not sure if they are doing both semi and Final draws, but would make sense

    Seeded Teams
    Portugal
    Scotland
    Italy
    Russia
    Sweden
    Wales

    Unseeded
    Austria
    North Macedonia
    Turkey
    Poland
    Ukraine
    Czech Republic

    So who do you want in the semi final?
    Austria would be to easiest draw.

    We have a 2/3 chance of being in the same side of the draw as Italy or Portugal. Need to get lucky there to have any chance.

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    I think they draw them and the winners of matches 1 and 2 (for example) play in the final.

    Austria in the semi, then the winners of Poland v Wales in the final.

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    North Macedonia in the semi surely?

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    Austria or north Macedonia in the semi.

    We’ve got to hope there are some upsets in the other ties, because I don’t like our chances against the other top seeds in the final, Wales are our level but all the others are of a higher pedigree.

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    Austria/North Macedonia then luck of the draw for the final.

    Portugal aren't the force they were and on a bit of a downward trend (imo).

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    Whatever the draw is today it is going to be two hard games to qualify for this WC. North Macedonia beat good teams to get to this play off so they won't be the easiest, with our previous knowledge of Austria that could be a good option for us but I don't see an easy game in the semi or the final. Knowing Scotland we will beat the Czechs on pens in the semis and get beaten by a last minute goal from Italy in the final


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    Both games at home
    North Macedonia, 2nd choice Austria 3rd choice Czech Republic for the semi and
    Wales or Sweden for the final

    Every other country has a massive population and therefore loads of good players

    North Macedonia 2.1 million
    Wales 3.2 million
    Scotland 5.5 million
    Austria 9 million
    Sweden 10.2 million
    Czech Republic 10.7 million

    Scotland and Wales are helped by getting easy access to players from England which probably boosts us up to a country of 7 million and Wales up to 5 million
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    How do they determine who gets home draw for the final?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibsbollah View Post
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    Austria or north Macedonia in the semi.

    We’ve got to hope there are some upsets in the other ties, because I don’t like our chances against the other top seeds in the final, Wales are our level but all the others are of a higher pedigree.
    Sweden or Russia at home would be winnable I think. There is no way in my cynical opinion that Portugal and Italy will be drawn together so every chance we will need to beat one of them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Badger View Post
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    How do they determine who gets home draw for the final?
    Must be a draw e.g semi final 2 v semi final 1 sort of thing.

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    How do they determine who gets home draw for the final?
    I think that's drawn today as well. So it'll be winner1 at home to winner2 kind of thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimBHibees View Post
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    Sweden or Russia at home would be winnable I think. There is no way in my cynical opinion that Portugal and Italy will be drawn together so every chance we will need to beat one of them
    Can we not get Boris or Nicola to engineer a diplomatic incident so we can avoid them Russia/ Ukraine style?

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    How do they determine who gets home draw for the final?
    It's a draw, ball 1 and ball 2 if 1 gets drawn then winner semi 1 is at home in the final verses semi 2.

    Same for 3 v 4 and 5 v 6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibsbollah View Post
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    Austria or north Macedonia in the semi.

    We’ve got to hope there are some upsets in the other ties, because I don’t like our chances against the other top seeds in the final, Wales are our level but all the others are of a higher pedigree.
    I don't think Sweden or Russia have better squads on paper - if you judge the starting XIs on caliber of player in terms of what league they play in, champions league experience etc. then an argument could be made that we are stronger (except maybe right back) - Scottish league is currently ranked higher than Russia's which most of their squad plays in.

    but both are miles ahead of us in terms of results, consistency and tournament performances in the last few years.

    Good examples of what we should be trying to emulate though - a hard working, hard to beat team, greater than the sum of its parts which regularly causes upsets and scrapes their way to quarter finals of majour tournaments.

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    Macedonia in the semi then Wales in the final at Hampden

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveHFC View Post
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    Macedonia in the semi then Wales in the final at Hampden
    Would rather there was a shock and a non seeded team made it through to meet us.qualified

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    Live today 4pm UK. Not sure if they are doing both semi and Final draws, but would make sense

    Seeded Teams
    Portugal
    Scotland
    Italy
    Russia
    Sweden
    Wales

    Unseeded
    Austria
    North Macedonia
    Turkey
    Poland
    Ukraine
    Czech Republic

    So who do you want in the semi final?
    If we draw the Ukraine then apparently the final cannot be vs Russia (as fifa won't allow a Russia v Ukraine tie)

    An absolute shambles.

    It would make the chances of a final v italy or Portugal effectively 50/50

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    I don't think Sweden or Russia have better squads on paper - if you judge the starting XIs on caliber of player in terms of what league they play in, champions league experience etc. then an argument could be made that we are stronger (except maybe right back) - Scottish league is currently ranked higher than Russia's which most of their squad plays in.

    but both are miles ahead of us in terms of results, consistency and tournament performances in the last few years.

    Good examples of what we should be trying to emulate though - a hard working, hard to beat team, greater than the sum of its parts which regularly causes upsets and scrapes their way to quarter finals of majour tournaments.
    Russia has a population of 146 million people to Scotland's 5 million.
    Safe to say Russia have loads more good players than Scotland.
    Hibs should be scouting there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Springbank View Post
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    If we draw the Ukraine then apparently the final cannot be vs Russia (as fifa won't allow a Russia v Ukraine tie)

    An absolute shambles.

    It would make the chances of a final v italy or Portugal effectively 50/50
    Not only the final but they can’t be in the same bracket.

    Pesky war and troops massing at the border.

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    Italy’s last two results have been 1-1 at home against Switzerland and 0-0 at Windsor Park and James Richardson was saying they were lucky not to lose, NIreland were the better team. Sounds mad but the European champions might not be the worst draw for someone.

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    If we draw the Ukraine then apparently the final cannot be vs Russia (as fifa won't allow a Russia v Ukraine tie)

    An absolute shambles.

    It would make the chances of a final v italy or Portugal effectively 50/50
    That's correct.

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    Seeded teams in order of preference:
    Wales
    Sweden
    Russia
    Portugal or Italy

    Unseeded:
    North Macedonia
    Austria
    Czech Republic
    Turkey or Ukraine
    Poland

    Draw will be Scotland v Poland, winner is away to winner of Italy v Ukraine.

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    Seeded teams in order of preference:
    Wales
    Sweden
    Russia
    Portugal or Italy

    Unseeded:
    North Macedonia
    Austria
    Czech Republic
    Turkey or Ukraine
    Poland

    Draw will be Scotland v Poland, winner is away to winner of Italy v Ukraine.
    .....and when we qualify from that everyone will think we are going to win the thing.....right up until we get humped by Iran in our opening match

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    Seemingly in the final, it’s 1st out the hat who’s at home

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Whizz View Post
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    Seemingly in the final, it’s 1st out the hat who’s at home
    I read there was a further draw to decide who the home team is in the final


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    Quote Originally Posted by CallumLaidlaw View Post
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    I read there was a further draw to decide who the home team is in the final


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    So seeded teams don’t automatically get a home game
    Don’t fancy Italy away in a final

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Whizz View Post
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    So seeded teams don’t automatically get a home game
    Don’t fancy Italy away in a final
    Seeded teams are only guaranteed a home semi - if it goes as per seedings it'll only be seeded teams in the finals so you can't guarantee home ties.

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    Is it live anywhere?

    Looks like it's only like on fifa.com

    SFA has following info:

    The draw will also determine who we could face in a potential final, should we be victorious in our semi-final match:

    The winners of semi-final 1 will face the winners of semi-final 2.
    The winners of semi-final 3 will face the winners of semi-final 4.
    The winners of semi-final 5 will face the winners of semi-final 6.

    In order to determine which of the semi-final winners will play at home in their finals, the following draw will be conducted:

    Two balls with ‘semi-final 1’ and ‘semi-final 2’ will be placed in an empty pot. This first ball drawn will indicate the winners of which semi-final will play the final at home.

    This will also apply for semi-finals 3&4 and 5&6.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danderhall Hibs View Post
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    Seeded teams are only guaranteed a home semi - if it goes as per seedings it'll only be seeded teams in the finals so you can't guarantee home ties.
    Not sure what you mean?
    Thought all 6 seeded teams were at home for the semi final?

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