Does anyone else think that forgetting about poor recruitment, that starting 11 should still be good enough to win comfortably last night, even having that bench the players in general are hugely underperforming. Gogic was a regular, Wright got a good few minutes off the bench and Allan hasn't been given any time at all. One of the main problems is Nisbet's general lack of form, he just looks like he can't be arsed.
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Thread: When are the club going to act?
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25-11-2021 10:00 AM #181
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25-11-2021 10:01 AM #182This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
That starting eleven should have won that game. The bench had some players who would walk into the Ross County first team too.
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25-11-2021 10:04 AM #183
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Without Boyle, we have nothing given Nisbet poor form
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25-11-2021 10:20 AM #184
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The way I took Ben kensell recent interview on hibs.net that he thinks it will take a couple transfer Windows to sort this squad out so I don’t see jack Ross going anywhere. He also just got to rip up the football department and do it his way. The thing that frustrates me tho is we finished 3rd last year with the same players, regularly winning away. Now we can’t buy a win. The manager has to evolve and find a way to win games.
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25-11-2021 10:24 AM #185
I just can’t understand how we can perform like we did on Sunday and revert back to gashness in the next game?
Our players are better than that, we’ve just seen what they are capable of. Ross needs to find a way of changing things or cup final or not, he’s on his way.
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25-11-2021 10:28 AM #186This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
If fans aren’t buying into Ross’s management as the weeks and months go on somethings got to give. One of the things he praised about Ross was his consistency of league finishes, remember thinking that wasn’t the case as we we’ve finished 7th and 3rd under him. If we’re back around 6th or 7th again (right now that’s almost looking optimistic) then he’s not delivering the consistency of league placing as he’s looking for either.
I don’t think Ross will be close to losing his job at all just now, if the form doesn’t pick up by around the time of the cup final though then I’m not sure he’ll get the January window to fix it.
Ross seems to be getting a bit of leeway due to the transfer window being so bad, I don’t really get that, that falls under his responsibility as well and isn’t a mitigating factor for him IMO. Mathie and his team were there to assist Ross with transfer targets, not absolve him of the blame if it doesn’t go well.
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25-11-2021 10:29 AM #187This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I don’t think it’s necessarily a sign of mental weakness of the team or anything like that, it’s just that Sundays game suited our players better.
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25-11-2021 10:35 AM #188This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Ross plays a part in the transfer process but there’s a reason he was making the same point in the press all summer. Something wasn’t right.
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25-11-2021 10:42 AM #189This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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25-11-2021 10:43 AM #190
I said on the PM board, 'Noticeable by their absence' thread that Sunday was only a sticking plaster and we shouldn't get carried away with it! Business as normal. Poor summer transfer period or not, I think it shows more about the team's mentality than anything else that we cannot muster a win against an opposition miles below us in the financial stakes. This has been Hibs story since I've been a fan starting in the late 60s and continuing on! I think these days, I just brush it off as 'the usual' and get on with it.
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25-11-2021 10:47 AM #191This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Managers live or die by the players they’ve got and Ross isn’t any different to that. He’s been here a decent length of time now, if the players in his squad aren’t up to it then he’s as responsible as Mathie.
Doesn’t sit right with me that Mathie is taking all the blame for it with no right of reply. I’m sure Mathie and his team will have put lots of players in front of Ross, maybe Ross is the one in the wrong for turning his suggestions down?
We don’t know to be fair, I just think ultimately the squad is Ross’s responsibility, not Mathies.
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25-11-2021 10:51 AM #192This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote"...when Hibs won the Scottish Cup final and that celebration, Sunshine on Leith? I don’t think there’s a better football celebration ever in the game.”
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25-11-2021 10:54 AM #193This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Before this window Mathie was very highly rated. Could be lots of factors in a poor transfer window and when it’s the manager that has the final say, I don’t get why he is absolved of all blame.
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25-11-2021 10:56 AM #194This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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25-11-2021 10:58 AM #195
God, imagine all the pre-written rants that won't be posted if we actually beat St Johnstone on Saturday.
After one of the biggest wins in our recent history, all it has taken to resurrect this thread was a very narrow defeat away at a form team. I'm stunned tbh.Last edited by Diclonius; 25-11-2021 at 11:02 AM.
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25-11-2021 11:06 AM #196This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
So Jack Ross can identify all the targets in the world, if deals aren't negotiated and the players go elsewhere or don't move at all (Jason Kerr & McCart respectively) then it shouldn't fall at the door of the manager."...when Hibs won the Scottish Cup final and that celebration, Sunshine on Leith? I don’t think there’s a better football celebration ever in the game.”
Sir Alex Ferguson
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25-11-2021 11:09 AM #197This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteLess talk, more gifs. 21.05.16
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25-11-2021 11:11 AM #198
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For those saying it's just a bad run and we'll come good, I'm curious to know at what point you'll start to doubt Ross? If we lose 8 in a row would that send alarm bells ringing?
When does a bad run become free fall?
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25-11-2021 11:16 AM #199This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteLess talk, more gifs. 21.05.16
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25-11-2021 11:18 AM #200This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Then we've got 4 games: Motherwell, Livi, St Mirren and Dundee, from which we should take AT LEAST 6 points from 12. As long as these points come, I don't give a **** who we beat and who we don't.
He needs something to turn before the final, no doubt. If we're sitting beaten in a cup final, with fewer than 8 points from 18 then I will be wanting changes."...when Hibs won the Scottish Cup final and that celebration, Sunshine on Leith? I don’t think there’s a better football celebration ever in the game.”
Sir Alex Ferguson
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25-11-2021 11:24 AM #201This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
It's points per game that matter. If you look at his points per game since he's come in, we'd be 3rd behind Rangers and Celtic. Clearly this run of defeats will be diminishing that "success" but Jack Ross's win record can't be argued.
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25-11-2021 11:24 AM #202
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Motherwell 2-1 RC
Dundee U 1-0 RC
RC 2-3 St Mirren
RC 2-3 Livingston
Dundee 0-5 RC
Rangers 4-2 RC
Some form that. Stunned indeed
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25-11-2021 11:26 AM #203This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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25-11-2021 11:27 AM #204
We mustn't be complacent. A run of losing form can become difficult to redeem, particularly when the pressure to gain points becomes acute. We saw that very thing the year we were relegated, when we looked safe until the last few weeks of the season. We need points and fast; the league is always the most important competition. Five defeats on the spin is really bad, but it isn't yet a crisis. However, it will soon become a crisis if the form continues. Ross has enough credit in the bank for now, but it's diminishing.
Personally, I would see how it goes for the next three or four league games. If we find ourselves in a run of eight or nine defeats, with fifteen points points, he will need to go. Football management is savage; that's just the way it is.HIBERNIAN FC - ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY SINCE 1875
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25-11-2021 11:28 AM #205
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If that's good form, what's our 3 points out of the last 18 form to you?
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25-11-2021 11:38 AM #207
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25-11-2021 11:40 AM #208
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Ultimately, we did fairly well last season without crowds, or much pressure, while our major rivals were all either in a mess, had just been promoted or weren’t even in the division, so yeah, we finished third, but there would have been little excuse not to.
This year, our rivals are stronger, they’ve kicked on. We haven't. The summer window is a mitigating factor, but not against the likes of Ross County. We should be beating them with what we’ve got, no question.
We’ve pretty much got the worst form in the division now and sliding down the table at a worrying speed. Getting to another cup final is great, but it’s a sticking plaster. If we get to the new year looking more like we’re in a relegation fight than one for Europe, Ross should go, as the players he’s got are, at worst, a mid table side.
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25-11-2021 11:42 AM #209This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Sunday was an exception. I’d be stunned if we took anything on Saturday.
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25-11-2021 11:43 AM #210
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League Form Guide from the last 6 games:
Celtic 16
Rangers 14
Dundee Utd 10
Livingston 9
St.Johnstone 8
Aberdeen 7
Motherwell 7
Dundee 7
Ross County 6
Hearts 6
St.Mirren 6
Hibernian 3
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