Tom English summary

[mal]

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That's why he's a good journalist - he has a wider view of football than a lot of the pundits. I think a lot of what he says is interesting - and some of it not so much. But that's what his job is all about. A lot of people on this website seem to just want to listen to someone who says that everything Hibs is great - while they come on here and slag off every player and manager every time Hibs lose a game.

Here's the problem with Tom English: he has the ability to make himself sound intelligent and authoritative on a variety of subjects, until he covers a topic that you have some knowledge about - the Hearts' relegation debacle, for instance - and you realise that he's just bull****ting. Once you realise that you can never hear him the same way again. He's basically a stupid person's idea of what a clever person is like.

[Brizo]

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TE having a bit of a disagreement with John Collins on Sportsound podcast.

thought it was a decent listen until Richard Gough came on and bored the hell out of everyone.. he didnt even see game and blathering on about team needs to be playing for support spending their last £ coming on early morning ferries from Belfast. Aye Richard, just what we need in Scotland.

Listened to that. I thought Collins came across as an arrogant balloon, disagreeing with everyone and everything, and even more surprisingly and disappointingly giving very little credit to Hibs.

Richard Goughs comments about the Belfast fans were reinforced by him saying that when he was a player the team "never surrendered". Definitely playing up to the bigot element. Plenty of surrendering at the weekend and 2016 Ricardo.

[Danderhall Hibs]

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Listened to that. I thought Collins came across as an arrogant balloon, disagreeing with everyone and everything, and even more surprisingly and disappointingly giving very little credit to Hibs.

Richard Goughs comments about the Belfast fans were reinforced by him saying that when he was a player the team "never surrendered". Definitely playing up to the bigot element. Plenty of surrendering at the weekend and 2016 Ricardo.

As well as the no surrender stuff he also disrespected Walter Smith by saying when he played his team didn’t need a manger.

[Forza Fred]

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That’s all very well but where was he in the second half last night ?

Back of the goals having a kip😂😂😂

[Crazyhorse]

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Here's the problem with Tom English: he has the ability to make himself sound intelligent and authoritative on a variety of subjects, until he covers a topic that you have some knowledge about - the Hearts' relegation debacle, for instance - and you realise that he's just bull****ting. Once you realise that you can never hear him the same way again. He's basically a stupid person's idea of what a clever person is like.

Very accurate assessment! And pretty typical of most journalists in most spheres. If you have in depth knowledge of a subject it quickly becomes apparent what bullsh**ters they generally are.

[Crunchie]

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That's typical English rubbish..he knows nothing about football so spent his time counting up air miles. Zero insight, zero understanding of the game. Tosser

[Crazyhorse]

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Listened to that. I thought Collins came across as an arrogant balloon, disagreeing with everyone and everything, and even more surprisingly and disappointingly giving very little credit to Hibs.

Richard Goughs comments about the Belfast fans were reinforced by him saying that when he was a player the team "never surrendered". Definitely playing up to the bigot element. Plenty of surrendering at the weekend and 2016 Ricardo.

Unfortunately what you say about Collins is true in my experience. Was involved in an award presentation with him in attendance,I’ll not go into details but I increasingly lost respect for him as the event went on. Came away feeling disappointed that he was our manager. Maybe it was a one off and of course he did achieve things at Hibs which I celebrated but at an interpersonal level the one time I met him I found the guy unbearable.

[Brunswickbill]

I reckon that he had done all that travel research in the expectation / hope that Boyle would have a poor game and he would be able to hang it on his Aussie involvement. You could also reverse the age count and explain a Hibs defeat because we played too many youngsters against an experienced Sevco 11. But maybe I’m just a cynical bitter old peg seller.

[McSwanky]

The man's basically a stopped clock. I'll not be reading.

[hibsbollah]

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Listened to that. I thought Collins came across as an arrogant balloon, disagreeing with everyone and everything, and even more surprisingly and disappointingly giving very little credit to Hibs.

Richard Goughs comments about the Belfast fans were reinforced by him saying that when he was a player the team "never surrendered". Definitely playing up to the bigot element. Plenty of surrendering at the weekend and 2016 Ricardo.

Goughs comments were unbelievable. It’s basically a racist anti Irish call to arms. Imagine a retired athlete in another sport in another country making an anti Semitic or anti black trope, do you think it would be ignored by the media? Scotland has a serious problem.

[worcesterhibby]

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Here's the problem with Tom English: he has the ability to make himself sound intelligent and authoritative on a variety of subjects, until he covers a topic that you have some knowledge about - the Hearts' relegation debacle, for instance - and you realise that he's just bull****ting. Once you realise that you can never hear him the same way again. He's basically a stupid person's idea of what a clever person is like.

Very well put. The BBC are particularly poor in this respect in my experience. I have a specialist knoweldge of Angling, last week the BBC ran a story about one of the biggest Fishing tackle retailers in the country being blackmailed by hackers...of course they had huge fun making puns about Phishing (although it wasn't a phishing scam, so the joke was flat anyway) but they illustrated the article with a picture of an American Large-Mouthed Bass, even though the company is a British one who only retails in the UK. It's the equivalent of running a story about Rugby and showing a picture of an American football. They haven't a clue.

[Spooky]

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Very well put. The BBC are particularly poor in this respect in my experience. I have a specialist knoweldge of Angling, last week the BBC ran a story about one of the biggest Fishing tackle retailers in the country being blackmailed by hackers...of course they had huge fun making puns about Phishing (although it wasn't a phishing scam, so the joke was flat anyway) but they illustrated the article with a picture of an American Large-Mouthed Bass, even though the company is a British one who only retails in the UK. It's the equivalent of running a story about Rugby and showing a picture of an American football. They haven't a clue.

BBC are the pits....

The quicker we can dump the licence fee the better.

[Iain G]

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Very well put. The BBC are particularly poor in this respect in my experience. I have a specialist knoweldge of Angling, last week the BBC ran a story about one of the biggest Fishing tackle retailers in the country being blackmailed by hackers...of course they had huge fun making puns about Phishing (although it wasn't a phishing scam, so the joke was flat anyway) but they illustrated the article with a picture of an American Large-Mouthed Bass, even though the company is a British one who only retails in the UK. It's the equivalent of running a story about Rugby and showing a picture of an American football. They haven't a clue.

You would have thought they could get the bassics right 😁

[worcesterhibby]

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You would have thought they could get the bassics right 😁

Oh MY COD ! I've turned it into a puns thread accidentally

[flash]

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Very well put. The BBC are particularly poor in this respect in my experience. I have a specialist knoweldge of Angling, last week the BBC ran a story about one of the biggest Fishing tackle retailers in the country being blackmailed by hackers...of course they had huge fun making puns about Phishing (although it wasn't a phishing scam, so the joke was flat anyway) but they illustrated the article with a picture of an American Large-Mouthed Bass, even though the company is a British one who only retails in the UK. It's the equivalent of running a story about Rugby and showing a picture of an American football. They haven't a clue.

Thank you Alan Partridge.

[Iain G]

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Oh MY COD ! I've turned it into a puns thread accidentally

You made a rod for your own back with that line...

[Crazyhorse]

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Oh MY COD ! I've turned it into a puns thread accidentally

You’re skating on very thin ice matey...

[Roxyhibee]

That article is a pile of patronising garbage from an absolutely appalling journalist - sadly most are these days, but he really thinks he’s an intellectual within his industry which makes his arrogance and inability to admit when he’s made a mistake even more irritating.

Because of that dearth of talent, he seemed like a breath of fresh air years ago when he first came on the media scene but that period last year where he made an absolute @rse of himself with Budge and his beloved Hearts was easily the most embarrassing I’ve seen from any journo - and I all too vividly remember Alex Cameron..

[Weegreenman]

Anyone remember when he said McGinn was only worth 1.5million and wouldn’t get into the Celtic team? 😂😂😂

Absolute 🛎 end

[JimBHibees]

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Goughs comments were unbelievable. It’s basically a racist anti Irish call to arms. Imagine a retired athlete in another sport in another country making an anti Semitic or anti black trope, do you think it would be ignored by the media? Scotland has a serious problem.

Did Gough not also admit he didn't watch the game? Way to go BBC

[Danderhall Hibs]

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Did Gough not also admit he didn't watch the game? Way to go BBC

He started by saying he was flying over the Atlantic when the game was on but he had spoken to folk about it. No surrender etc.

[Eyrie]

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Did Gough not also admit he didn't watch the game? Way to go BBC

Makes him a very strange choice to have as a guest discussing a game he hadn't attended, seen or even attempted to watch.

[Jones28]

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Did Gough not also admit he didn't watch the game? Way to go BBC

The way he said it was the cringiest thing I’ve ever heard on Sportsound, and that’s really saying something.

Nothing worse than an Americanised Scottish accent talking about “flying back to the States”.