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    Green gains as important as signings?

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    Making green gains off the field can be "more important" than signing top players, Hibernian's financial director has told Scottish football clubs.

    As the COP26 climate summit launched in Glasgow, Chris Gaunt revealed he wants to ensure the Edinburgh club is the greenest in the country.

    Solar panels, electric charge points and a vegan kiosk are being developed.

    "If we can inspire other clubs to do the same, that would be ideal for us," Gaunt says.

    "From a fan basis, they would much rather see us sign a huge player than see a press release saying we have invested solar panels on the roof. Equally, I would say it is is probably as important, if not more important, to invest in sustainability than to invest in a two or three-year player."

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    Gaunt admits "there is a balance there" and it might be difficult for some clubs to buy into the sustainability model considering they have just endured a year-and-a-half of the Covid-19 pandemic during, which limited income.

    "There is a cost to this," he says. "In order to be more sustainable, you're going to have to invest in more greener options. For instance, LED lighting that you can do on the floodlights is a huge investment and the payback is going to be 20-25 years."

    Indeed, Gaunt admits even his own Scottish Premiership club does not at present have the budget to appoint a specialist sustainability officer.

    The Louisiana native is particularly "passionate" about the subject having "lived through Hurricane Katrina", other major storms and seen the reclaiming of that coastal area of the United States.

    "We are about to celebrate our 150th anniversary and Hibs are on the coast of Leith and want to own that 'greenest club' and make sure that they are around for another 150 years," Gaunt says.

    Gaunt explained Hibs, who were named the greenest club in Scotland in 2019, have this year signed a deal to put solar panels on the East Stand at Easter Road Stadium and at their training ground.

    They already have electric car charging points at both sites and, with no other charging point close to Easter Road, have "a deal coming up" that will allow that to be used not only by Hibs employees but also the local community. Meanwhile, the new vegan kiosk will be opening shortly inside the stadium.


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    Ah so we had a ***** transfer window so we could install solar panels...GORDON!!!

    Seriously though, what the fans don’t want to hear after the way the transfer window went is this pish.

    IMO of course

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    Sounds like they are continuing to develop the clubs assets so that they are worth more when they come to sell it.
    Obviously forked tongue financial director is spinning it another way.
    FWIW I think it makes sense because it gets us ahead of the game for a change.
    All clubs will eventually get forced into this stuff.

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    If you look at the bigger picture, yes.

    The problem is that fans focus on the first team, so this isn't what we want to hear, and it's certainly not the right time to hear it when we've lost our last four games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyrie View Post
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    If you look at the bigger picture, yes.

    The problem is that fans focus on the first team, so this isn't what we want to hear, and it's certainly not the right time to hear it when we've lost our last four games.
    As far as Iím concerned the team is the big picture.

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    I guess football clubs can't uniquely position themselves as a group of businesses who aren't going to feel the financial strains of being greener. Businesses will need to plow money and resources into looking at and changing the way they operate significantly over the next 10 years.

    In theory, if all clubs do it to the same extent then the affect on the field should be minimal though as we'd all be equally impacted. That's up to the authorities to dictate.
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    Without being daft but if you're putting solar panels on a stand it would be south or west?

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    It's good to see this is something Hibs are considering. Of course actions speak louder than words but it's something everyone is going to have to face up within the decade. Hibs may as well position ourselves ahead of the curve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    It's good to see this is something Hibs are considering. Of course actions speak louder than words but it's something everyone is going to have to face up within the decade. Hibs may as well position ourselves ahead of the curve.
    That's where I'm at, it's coming, all clubs will have to invest. Hopefully we will be ahead of the game.

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    The thing is, its ultimately worthless while like 20 companies produce like 40% of all emissions.

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    Going on about being green while promoting crypto / NFTs. No.

    As came up in various other threads, if you just want to be a football club and maximise your income for players, no bother. If you want to stand up and preach about this or that, then everything the club does needs to line up with that or you just look like a hypocrite.

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    Going on about being green while promoting crypto / NFTs. No.

    As came up in various other threads, if you just want to be a football club and maximise your income for players, no bother. If you want to stand up and preach about this or that, then everything the club does needs to line up with that or you just look like a hypocrite.
    Agree. Are you doing this because you genuinely care about the environment or are you doing it because it differentiates you from your competition and may improve your brand/business. A subtle distinction which makes a world of difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeithMike View Post
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    Agree. Are you doing this because you genuinely care about the environment or are you doing it because it differentiates you from your competition and may improve your brand/business. A subtle distinction which makes a world of difference.

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    It can easily be both.

    What an odd thing for people to be critical of. Should we just not bother?

    As for the NFT thing Iím sure theyíll have done more actual research on the impact of what we are doing specifically than those shouting about it on here.

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    Personally think it is an excellent thing to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzywuzzy View Post
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    Without being daft but if you're putting solar panels on a stand it would be south or west?
    I assume they'd be on the roof, angled to the south.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyrie View Post
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    If you look at the bigger picture, yes.

    The problem is that fans focus on the first team, so this isn't what we want to hear, and it's certainly not the right time to hear it when we've lost our last four games.
    Iíd tend to agree. Everyone understand about climate change and all that.

    If we had announced something like this when we were playing well and at the top end of the league it would be much better received

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    Few simple ideasÖ

    The club could make sure folk donít leave litter during games which blows into the local streets / community.

    Get some secure bike storage at the stadium.

    Use East Main to grow vegetables like Norwich do at their training ground - for players meals etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibbydog View Post
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    Iíd tend to agree. Everyone understand about climate change and all that.

    If we had announced something like this when we were playing well and at the top end of the league it would be much better received
    Which illustrates how fickle and short sighted some fans are

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMurdoch View Post
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    Sounds like they are continuing to develop the clubs assets so that they are worth more when they come to sell it.
    Obviously forked tongue financial director is spinning it another way.
    FWIW I think it makes sense because it gets us ahead of the game for a change.
    All clubs will eventually get forced into this stuff.
    I am surprised you took that from it as itís not what I took at all. Not sure adding some solar panels and selling vegan food is going to add sn extra zero onto any future sale price

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    Never mind solar panels at the training centre, have always joked that we should put a couple of wind turbines there. Been there with both my sonís and daughterís football and itís always really breezy.

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    Obvious reason for why the club would come out with this now. At the very least it may get us some publicity, although Scottish media won't do us any favours as per.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibbydog View Post
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    Iíd tend to agree. Everyone understand about climate change and all that.

    If we had announced something like this when we were playing well and at the top end of the league it would be much better received

    If the planet goes up in flames Iím blaming Nisbet.

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    If the planet goes up in flames Iím blaming Nisbet.
    If hell freezes over I'm blaming Hanlon.

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    Itís more important than signings, more important than football actually.

    Itís great that we are doing this as a club as it shows generations our commitment to change and hopefully leads others to and through that change.

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    Climate change is a wider issue than our club, I'm happy hibs are doing positive things but it should not be at the expense of the first team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    The thing is, its ultimately worthless while like 20 companies produce like 40% of all emissions.
    At the moment and for my lifetime mibiz aye.
    But the pressure for change is going to build and build, although how long it will take China and Russia to make significant changes to their output of emissions is up in the smog.
    Agree, the timing of this should have been better thought through. The announcement is massively insignificant in relation to COP26 and just smacks of points scoring. But the analogy with investment in players has a considerable negative impact on the support given our current bad run. Poor judgement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacomo View Post
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    If the planet goes up in flames Iím blaming Nisbet.
    And the whole time it'll be Petrie controlling the whole thing from his underground bunker on Petrie Island.

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    Somebody should ask this question of Rangers.

    I'd love to hear them discuss their 'green credentials'

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