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Thread: It's been coming. Jack Ross out.
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23-10-2021 04:08 PM #2
Annnnnnd they’re off
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Sir Alex Ferguson
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23-10-2021 04:11 PM #3
The problem is, the style of football he has us playing and his general demeanour mean that, even when we’re winning, it all feels a bit flat.
Lose 3 on the bounce, including losing to a team who haven’t won in 10 (without a single shot on goal) and knowing he will have nothing remotely inspiring to say or do just makes everything feel more depressing.
I’m not sure he deserves to be fired just yet but I certainly don’t think many of us would miss him if he left.
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23-10-2021 04:11 PM #4
We’re 5 points off the top of the table and in the league cup semifinal, anyone who thinks we’re going to sack the manager under those circumstances are kidding themselves on. The last 2 games have been dismal but a manager isn’t judged on 2 games.
United we stand here....
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23-10-2021 04:12 PM #5
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It’s not jack Ross fault
This lies in the blame with the recruiting department.
It’s been addressed and they’ve gone but lack of investment is slaughtering us.
No strength in depth. Miss a couple of key players and we’ve collapsed.
Not the managers fault IMO
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23-10-2021 04:13 PM #6This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
United we stand here....
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23-10-2021 04:14 PM #7
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JR has 13 points from 30 v Aberdeen and Hearts.
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23-10-2021 04:14 PM #8This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote"We know the people who have invested so far are simple fans." Vladimir Romanov - Scotsman 10th December 2012
"Romanov was like a breath of fresh air - laced with cyanide." Me.
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23-10-2021 04:15 PM #9This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
United we stand here....
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23-10-2021 04:15 PM #10This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote"We know the people who have invested so far are simple fans." Vladimir Romanov - Scotsman 10th December 2012
"Romanov was like a breath of fresh air - laced with cyanide." Me.
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23-10-2021 04:17 PM #12
He’s not going to be fired and neither he should be.
I’d be quite happy if another club came in for him though. This team bores me to tears. Also think last season will be the peak of what we achieve with Ross. Don’t think we’ll improve or match last season.
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23-10-2021 04:17 PM #13This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Pre COVID I thought the strength of the team was highlighted by the strength on the bench where we could make substitutions which would be equal to what we had starting.
Things are far from that now and while JR can blame poor signings in the summer he should still be able to get the team playing as a team and wanting the ball.
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23-10-2021 04:18 PM #14
The panic merchants are out geez peace I'm a supporter through bad times and good trust me this not that bad we are not on form but I trust the manager but more importantly so does Ron
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23-10-2021 04:18 PM #15This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Can’t have it both ways.
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23-10-2021 04:18 PM #16This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
If people think that getting shot of Mathie will solve recruitment issues they had better think again.
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23-10-2021 04:19 PM #17
Jack Ross has to stay and we need to be patient.
It’s clear the club recognise the lamentable job Mathie done and have moved to fix it but it’s going to take until January to start fixing it. Ross is the right man to do so.
Our squad is very weak just now, we have far too many injury prone players and too many who are happy to let games go by them. Ross is doing the best he can. He got third last season and would probably have managed the same this season if Mathie hadn’t weakened the squad.
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23-10-2021 04:19 PM #18
Just to put a foot down on this now - if you disagree with a post, feel free to express so, but don't abuse fellow posters in the process.
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23-10-2021 04:19 PM #19
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23-10-2021 04:23 PM #20This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
For me, his record should be enough to keep him in a job but if he left tonight I wouldn’t care less. Baws to watching that every week. Last week, had it been a shocker that we hadn’t seen for a while before a reaction today could be forgivable, but to actually be worse the following week and set up in the sane way. Astonishingly bad stuff.Follow the Hibs podcast, Longbangers, on Twitter (@longbangers)
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23-10-2021 04:24 PM #21
We're not even close to a serious discussion about this IMO.
There are legitimate concerns, though. Not necessarily squarely about the manager, but about the form of a number of our players, the strength of our squad, and current form.
If it continues for a more significant period then we can circle back to shouts like this one. In the meantime, Ross has earned security in his position.
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23-10-2021 04:24 PM #22This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
For all we know he could have presented dozens of brilliant players to Ross but Ross chose not to pursue them.
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Dundee United would take our squad in a heartbeat. You can’t just dismiss it as someone else’s fault.Follow the Hibs podcast, Longbangers, on Twitter (@longbangers)
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23-10-2021 04:26 PM #26
should he stay or should he go......................
Dont really care one way or the other something just not right at Easter Road.
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23-10-2021 04:26 PM #27
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Meh. Maybe not crisis time but it certainly ain't good. Football on show is poor, crowds are dwindling.
Difficult to change this trend. Make no mistake, we are going backwards! Final and semi final defeats allong with uninspiring football are taking their toll.
Nothing to do with COVD19!
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23-10-2021 04:26 PM #28
Im not convinced he should go just now...
however there are serious questions and doubts over his inability to avoid not just defeats but abject, boring and utterly flat performances.
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23-10-2021 04:27 PM #29
So Ross was given dozens of brilliant players but decided he didn’t want them? Sounds likely.
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23-10-2021 04:28 PM #30madhatterLeft by mutual consent!
Think people forget that even when we had a "good" start to the season we were awarded a few favourable penalties in a couple of games that turned the result in our favour.
I like Jack Ross as a person, seems to come across well but his football is genuinely boring for me. Percentage football. Our attacking play is about putting crosses into the box but we don't really have much physical presence.
We mocked Hearts for "hoof" but we have pretty much become them. Tippy tappy across our defence with Newell and JDH dropping back to assist with this endeavour followed by a "long ball" to the invisible man. Hopefully it will change but the players attitude is starting to tell a story - McGregor getting sent off for that when he's our most experienced player. A couple of head to heads as well. Players are angry but they are also clueless while playing. Manager needs to be under a huge amount of pressure - we can't talk about the match day experience at ER when the style of football has put people off returning. People say it's Covid and getting out of the habit. That is partially the case but if Hibs were playing entertaining football our attendance would be higher, that's just a fact. People may not agree with it but being Hibs manager comes with pressure to play a certain brand of football. Many fans won't come out unless it's like that, sad as it is as it would be nice to have more in ER.
Jack Ross should not get an easier ride than Mathie. He is at the helm of the football department and our football is awful. Mathie is gone, does Jack Ross get another window of signing St Mirren players? I genuinely worry for Hibs if our manager is too friendly with our owner, talking about how to establish businesses and the like...
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