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    Firstly, yes I know the performance yesterday had a big impact on the atmosphere, especially in second half. However, I’ve noticed recently and even still at 0-0 that there wasn’t much atmosphere. There’s been a lot of talk recently about improving the match day experience, but for me and I’m sue many others, a good atmosphere is part of that, even if the game itself is dull or really poor like yesterday. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how we can improve this (other then the team playing better of course)? I remember even 2 or three years ago the ground was far livelier, especially in the east stand. Things like safe standing and a potential move of the signing section to FFL would help but that likely won’t happen until next season at the earliest.

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    I personally think the general atmosphere has regressed since the singing section moved back to the East.

    If anyone can point out a game that has had a good atmosphere since the move I will happily stand corrected.

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    I thought the atmosphere from the guys in the South Stand was pretty impressive.


    In the first half, the young guys in the corner of the East Stand were good, as they always are. But as soon as United scored, the home support just went quiet, which was a shame

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    I personally think the general atmosphere has regressed since the singing section moved back to the East.

    If anyone can point out a game that has had a good atmosphere since the move I will happily stand corrected.
    If it has, I don't think it has anything to do with the singing section. So far generally we've had smaller crowds than pre -covid, yesterday was the biggest away crowd (and we were dismal, singing section were good to start with but the team didn't give us much to cheer/sing about) and don't think we've played particularly well at home yet other than the 1st half against Ross County (might be forgetting another time).

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    If it has, I don't think it has anything to do with the singing section. So far generally we've had smaller crowds than pre -covid, yesterday was the biggest away crowd (and we were dismal, singing section were good to start with but the team didn't give us much to cheer/sing about) and don't think we've played particularly well at home yet other than the 1st half against Ross County (might be forgetting another time).
    Apparently there was 15k + at yesterday’s game. Certainly didn’t look like it.

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    There was no buzz about the place even before a ball was kicked yesterday. I don’t think it’s anything to do with who sits where etc, it’s just that a lot of folk don’t particularly feel excited by this team. Which is also the main reason there’s so many empty seats IMO.

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    There was no buzz about the place even before a ball was kicked yesterday. I don’t think it’s anything to do with who sits where etc, it’s just that a lot of folk don’t particularly feel excited by this team. Which is also the main reason there’s so many empty seats IMO.
    That’s what I think too. Boyle is the only player that I feel can get me off my seat. Boring days.

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    That’s what I think too. Boyle is the only player that I feel can get me off my seat. Boring days.
    I don't necessarily disagree or agree with you on this but considering how well our general results have been this season i've found it surprising that when restrictions on fans were lifted the big crowds haven't seemed to flock back even just for the sake of it on one of the first few games. Even when we had the Europa Conference games with the smaller crowds I don't think we sold them out very well? Just seems to be a real apathy from a lot of people for the club at the moment.

    Maybe it's because we're not exactly an entertaining team, maybe others want to see the signings made to justify them going and the transfer window put some people off, maybe the rest think we should be in Hearts' position instead. I honestly don't know. Yesterday certainly won't have helped increase numbers for the next few games at least.

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    I don't necessarily disagree or agree with you on this but considering how well our general results have been this season i've found it surprising that when restrictions on fans were lifted the big crowds haven't seemed to flock back even just for the sake of it on one of the first few games. Even when we had the Europa Conference games with the smaller crowds I don't think we sold them out very well? Just seems to be a real apathy from a lot of people for the club at the moment.

    Maybe it's because we're not exactly an entertaining team, maybe others want to see the signings made to justify them going and the transfer window put some people off, maybe the rest think we should be in Hearts' position instead. I honestly don't know. Yesterday certainly won't have helped increase numbers for the next few games at least.
    Think I saw someone mention on another thread that we were told, a lot, last year that it would feel different when we were back in the ground (in relation to the criticisms about style of play etc). The way it is at ER at the moment, in terms of empty seats and general atmosphere, suggests otherwise. Like you, it’s not quite been what I expected since we got back. Probably a bit different away from home.

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    Think I saw someone mention on another thread that we were told, a lot, last year that it would feel different when we were back in the ground (in relation to the criticisms about style of play etc). The way it is at ER at the moment, in terms of empty seats and general atmosphere, suggests otherwise. Like you, it’s not quite been what I expected since we got back. Probably a bit different away from home.
    I felt different in the ground to watching on TV. Probably more pissed off , but i can imagine how bad that would have been to watch on TV yesterday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Centre Hawf View Post
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    I don't necessarily disagree or agree with you on this but considering how well our general results have been this season i've found it surprising that when restrictions on fans were lifted the big crowds haven't seemed to flock back even just for the sake of it on one of the first few games. Even when we had the Europa Conference games with the smaller crowds I don't think we sold them out very well? Just seems to be a real apathy from a lot of people for the club at the moment.

    Maybe it's because we're not exactly an entertaining team, maybe others want to see the signings made to justify them going and the transfer window put some people off, maybe the rest think we should be in Hearts' position instead. I honestly don't know. Yesterday certainly won't have helped increase numbers for the next few games at least.
    I think we will find that a lot of people will have fallen out of the habit and it will be a while before they get back into it.
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    I think we will find that a lot of people will have fallen out of the habit and it will be a while before they get back into it.
    Got to agree, I am one of those you describe and feel no desire to return. Wasn't enjoying what I was watching pre-Covid and certainly haven't from watching on TV. The pandemic made the decision for me.

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    Easter Road is like a library these days. Anyone who denies this is simply kidding themselves on and are doing the club no favours.

    We need some radical changes for the better. If people have to be moved, so be it. Something needs to give.
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    Easter Road is like a library these days. Anyone who denies this is simply kidding themselves on and are doing the club no favours.

    We need some radical changes for the better. If people have to be moved, so be it. Something needs to give.


    The solution is obvious I think - lower section of the famous five should be turned into the singing section, directly behind the goal. Longer term it should be safe standing.

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    The solution is obvious I think - lower section of the famous five should be turned into the singing section, directly behind the goal. Longer term it should be safe standing.
    This is ultimately what needs to happen imo. Can be moved to the east where lots of the young lads currently are and it would look phenomenal on tv.
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    This is ultimately what needs to happen imo. Can be moved to the east where lots of the young lads currently are and it would look phenomenal on tv.
    Agree.... you really do need to crack a few eggs to make an omelette. There will be a few fans not happy but at the end of the day we need an atmosphere at home games and this would certainly help..

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    The solution is obvious I think - lower section of the famous five should be turned into the singing section, directly behind the goal. Longer term it should be safe standing.
    I agree, although I’d go even further. Why not make that whole end the singing section.
    It works for away teams at the other end. Rangers, Celtic and Hearts all generate a brilliant atmosphere.
    It can be done.
    A few noses will be put out of joint but this is for the greater good of the club.

    I’d also like to see us close of either a section at either end of the east or maybe even cut it off three quarters of the way up.
    We could open these sections up to walk ups if need be.
    This way, there won’t be big gaps everywhere.

    I know this will attract negativity but something needs to give.

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    The solution is obvious I think - lower section of the famous five should be turned into the singing section, directly behind the goal. Longer term it should be safe standing.
    The solution is a football team that don’t send you to sleep.

    The singing section is just fine where it is but the fans had zero effort to back yesterday.

    You can’t expect a good atmosphere or fans willing their team on when in the mangers words the players are simply ‘lazy’.

    I know it’s a bit chicken and egg when it comes to fans backing the players and players giving the fans something to back. But when the performance on the pitch is so flat then what chance does anyone have in creating an atmosphere.

    I’m 100% sure that if the players start giving the fans a few morsels then the atmosphere will be absolutely fine.

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    The solution is a football team that don’t send you to sleep.

    The singing section is just fine where it is but the fans had zero effort to back yesterday.

    You can’t expect a good atmosphere or fans willing their team on when in the mangers words the players are simply ‘lazy’.

    I know it’s a bit chicken and egg when it comes to fans backing the players and players giving the fans something to back. But when the performance on the pitch is so flat then what chance does anyone have in creating an atmosphere.

    I’m 100% sure that if the players start giving the fans a few morsels then the atmosphere will be absolutely fine.
    I’ve been to quite a few stadiums all over Europe were the supporters are loud and still bouncing whether they are winning or losing.

    I agree the team needs to do better but we as supporters can do better and it starts by having a whole stand that everyone knows as our singing section.

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    The solution is a football team that don’t send you to sleep.

    The singing section is just fine where it is but the fans had zero effort to back yesterday.

    You can’t expect a good atmosphere or fans willing their team on when in the mangers words the players are simply ‘lazy’.

    I know it’s a bit chicken and egg when it comes to fans backing the players and players giving the fans something to back. But when the performance on the pitch is so flat then what chance does anyone have in creating an atmosphere.

    I’m 100% sure that if the players start giving the fans a few morsels then the atmosphere will be absolutely fine.
    I agree that of course performances can help the atmosphere, but what about the atmosphere also helping performances?

    Really cant agree that the singing section is fine where it is - too few people lost amongst a big stand.

    The Famous five looks great when full - atmosphere is not just about noise, its visual too - having a singing section up and out the way totally limits the atmosphere they can create. The famous five is the stand that people see on the telly, its where the fans should be drawing the ball into the net. The FF looked pathetic yesterday though.

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    I’ve been to quite a few stadiums all over Europe were the supporters are loud and still bouncing whether they are winning or losing.

    I agree the team needs to do better but we as supporters can do better and it starts by having a whole stand that everyone knows as our singing section.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weegreenman View Post
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    I’ve been to quite a few stadiums all over Europe were the supporters are loud and still bouncing whether they are winning or losing.

    I agree the team needs to do better but we as supporters can do better and it starts by having a whole stand that everyone knows as our singing section.
    This in a nutshell, they also dont leave at half time or 15 mins b4 the end en masse

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyeSloan View Post
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    The solution is a football team that don’t send you to sleep.

    The singing section is just fine where it is but the fans had zero effort to back yesterday.

    You can’t expect a good atmosphere or fans willing their team on when in the mangers words the players are simply ‘lazy’.

    I know it’s a bit chicken and egg when it comes to fans backing the players and players giving the fans something to back. But when the performance on the pitch is so flat then what chance does anyone have in creating an atmosphere.

    I’m 100% sure that if the players start giving the fans a few morsels then the atmosphere will be absolutely fine.
    So true. The last time the ground was consistently bouncing was in the 2nd half of 17-18. It's going to take a massive transformation to get that back again. It's all fine talking about the fans creating an atmosphere but whether you like or or not it is down to the players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyeSloan View Post
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    The solution is a football team that don’t send you to sleep.

    The singing section is just fine where it is but the fans had zero effort to back yesterday.

    You can’t expect a good atmosphere or fans willing their team on when in the mangers words the players are simply ‘lazy’.

    I know it’s a bit chicken and egg when it comes to fans backing the players and players giving the fans something to back. But when the performance on the pitch is so flat then what chance does anyone have in creating an atmosphere.

    I’m 100% sure that if the players start giving the fans a few morsels then the atmosphere will be absolutely fine.
    Totally agree a performance when we are taking the initiative from the off at home is going to generate an atmosphere. Both St Mirren and United have been the same in the first half waiting on something happening and no real intensity pressure or efforts at goal. How many efforts on goal have we had in the first half of these games? Both we have been passive and lost a goal just before half time then immediately change it with a half time sub.

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    The solution is obvious I think - lower section of the famous five should be turned into the singing section, directly behind the goal. Longer term it should be safe standing.
    Well said ! That is were the singing section should be, it's obvious. I also agree with your comment on that is were any safe standing should be. It would surely help the atmosphere at Easter Road ?
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    Well said ! That is were the singing section should be, it's obvious. I also agree with your comment on that is were any safe standing should be. It would surely help the atmosphere at Easter Road ?
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    Well said ! That is were the singing section should be, it's obvious. I also agree with your comment on that is were any safe standing should be. It would surely help the atmosphere at Easter Road ?
    Of course it would. Deep down everyone on here knows it too.
    In the championship days sides like Greenock bloody Morton would turn up with about 200 fans and make a racket.
    Where the fans are stood singing is all important these days. We did away with the only stand with any acoustics when we tore down the old east.

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    Of course it would. Deep down everyone on here knows it too.
    In the championship days sides like Greenock bloody Morton would turn up with about 200 fans and make a racket.
    Where the fans are stood singing is all important these days. We did away with the only stand with any acoustics when we tore down the old east.
    That's not the case. The old East was noisy when you were in the old East. If you were sitting in the West the noise coming from the other side of the ground wasn't that loud.

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    Of course it would. Deep down everyone on here knows it too.
    In the championship days sides like Greenock bloody Morton would turn up with about 200 fans and make a racket.
    Where the fans are stood singing is all important these days. We did away with the only stand with any acoustics when we tore down the old east.

    If that's true, then how come the fans in the away end were so loud on Saturday?




    I'm not quite sure where people get the idea from that we used to have an amazing atmosphere and that's suddenly disappeared, as the atmosphere at most games against the smaller sides has mostly been poor for the last 40 years that I know of.

    The truth is that the majority of fans that attend home games rarely get involved in the singing, unless it's against the OF or their local rivals. That's true of all clubs, not just Hibs.

    The young guys in Section 45 are at least making an effort and I definitely applaud them for that. I personally think there would be games with a bit if a flat atmosphere no matter what part of the stadium they're in, especially if we play as badly as Saturday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HFCEighteen75 View Post
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    Of course it would. Deep down everyone on here knows it too.
    In the championship days sides like Greenock bloody Morton would turn up with about 200 fans and make a racket.
    Where the fans are stood singing is all important these days. We did away with the only stand with any acoustics when we tore down the old east.

    The old East sounded good if you were in it. All the rest of the stadium heard was a muffled, incomprehensible cacophony, as the sound bounced around inside it.

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    The atmosphere hasn’t been great at all this season at home I would agree. I sit on the other end of the east from the singing section and didn’t really hear much pre-match or before the goals. One thing that seems more common that i’m guilty of as well is just clapping along to the songs instead of singing.

    Don’t really have any answers to improve it, was impressed with Utd yesterday and also when we visited Motherwell. I suppose one thing they have in common is that they are exceeding expectations this season. We haven’t had a OF team or hearts at home yet this season so hopefully we will see an improvement when we have Celtic under the floodlights next.

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