Nathan Wood

**MWHIBBIES** · 17-10-2021 01:37 PM

Incredible how psychology has become so advanced and easy than any old punter can know that a guy has a ''billy big baws'' attitude based on 1 match.

Or maybe it is just a very lazy, ignorant judgement, based on nothing at all.

***Jones28*** · 17-10-2021 01:58 PM

My comments on Wood were a bit harsh with some reflection, I still think he underestimated the pace of the game and was trying World Cup passes that never came off.

**MWHIBBIES** · 17-10-2021 02:03 PM

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My comments on Wood were a bit harsh with some reflection, I still think he underestimated the pace of the game and was trying World Cup passes that never came off.

I think I'd rather he was trying some passes. Our absolutely woeful plan of passing to the fullbacks who were usually facing their own goal was causing us problems. Honestly think that is the most useless pass in football. Centre back to fullback who is facing his own goal, there is nothing he can do other than give it straight back. Our midfield we never making themselves available or really looking for it.

***Jones28*** · 17-10-2021 02:05 PM

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I think I'd rather he was trying some passes. Our absolutely woeful plan of passing to the fullbacks who were usually facing their own goal was causing us problems. Honestly think that is the most useless pass in football. Centre back to fullback who is facing his own goal, there is nothing he can do other than give it straight back. Our midfield we never making themselves available or really looking for it.

I don’t mind trying these things but to hoof 2 or 3 passes straight out the park was poor imo.

Wood wasn’t the worst on the park yesterday by any stretch but nobody had a good game.

***Mikey_1875*** · 17-10-2021 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by Jones28

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My comments on Wood were a bit harsh with some reflection, I still think he underestimated the pace of the game and was trying World Cup passes that never came off.

I agree and made similar comments on another thread. It didn’t fall on the side of nerves for me as he didn’t seem frantic as you would if nervous. He dwelled on the ball a lot and took plenty of time to play the diagonals which didn’t work.

At the end of the day he played a part in what was a collective shocker where plenty of others were culpable. He seems highly rated and I don’t think anyone is completely writing him off but we can’t really view him with the same sympathy as we would with one of our own youth projects. He is here to do a job for us and on the evidence of yesterday he needs to buck up his ideas. If he starts against Aberdeen he will of course have my full support and hopefully he will have learned a great deal from his first taste of the league.

***Stonewall*** · 17-10-2021 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES

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Incredible how psychology has become so advanced and easy than any old punter can know that a guy has a ''billy big baws'' attitude based on 1 match.

Or maybe it is just a very lazy, ignorant judgement, based on nothing at all.

My rule of thumb is when someone uses a phrase like Billy Big Baws or Wage Thief what they are saying is guff for the reasons stated in you last sentence.

***CentreLine*** · 17-10-2021 02:24 PM

Okay, if anyone that watched yesterday’s game wanted to see how a top quality, seasoned pro, centre half should perform, all they had to do was watch Mulgrew. He oozed class and controlled everything that happened in the DU defence. I’m fact he controlled much of what happened across the pitch. He is the kind of leader we are crying out for.
Instead, we have a 19 year old making his debut in enforced circumstances. He started really well and had a very assured first half. Made a couple of slips that he recovered from quickly and read the game well. They guy was playing alongside our own seasoned pro’s who were hardly setting the heather on fire and his game suffered in the second half.
What then happens on here is an incredible assassination of the boy as a player with hardly a nod to the failures round about him.
I liked what I saw of Woods yesterday and I firmly believe he will do a job for us. People need to get off his back, he made far fewer mistakes than his piers around him and actually looked like a player in that first half.

***Keith_M*** · 17-10-2021 02:25 PM

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That’s exceptionally harsh. This was a young lad making his debut on a day when most of his experienced team mates who should have been guiding him had a total stinker. I won’t be judging him on yesterday alone or questioning his attitude in any way. Let’s at least give him a decent chance.

While I was disappointed at times in his decision making, and thought his passing was very poor, I agree with this.

It was his first game for us, he looked nervous and that was compounded by the performance of his team-mates.

**ancient hibee** · 17-10-2021 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES

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I think I'd rather he was trying some passes. Our absolutely woeful plan of passing to the fullbacks who were usually facing their own goal was causing us problems. Honestly think that is the most useless pass in football. Centre back to fullback who is facing his own goal, there is nothing he can do other than give it straight back. Our midfield we never making themselves available or really looking for it.

Thought Cadden’s lack of movement when Wood was looking to pass to him was dreadful. He made no effort to move to the ball and as a result a United player was usually arriving at the same time as the ball. The midfield of course just hid. Nobody made angles or attempted to create space for a player to come forward with the ball.

***matty_f*** · 17-10-2021 03:37 PM

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That’s exceptionally harsh. This was a young lad making his debut on a day when most of his experienced team mates who should have been guiding him had a total stinker. I won’t be judging him on yesterday alone or questioning his attitude in any way. Let’s at least give him a decent chance.

Some of the posts on here are reactionary drivel.

He didn’t have a great game yesterday but it’s hard to shine when everyone in front of you is hiding. There was rarely a pass on for him or an out ball, he was seriously let down by the team.

***erin go bragh*** · 17-10-2021 03:47 PM

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Thought Cadden’s lack of movement when Wood was looking to pass to him was dreadful. He made no effort to move to the ball and as a result a United player was usually arriving at the same time as the ball. The midfield of course just hid. Nobody made angles or attempted to create space for a player to come forward with the ball.

Both Cadden and Murphy to a lesser extent were very poor at making any forward movement.

**Iain G** · 17-10-2021 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by erin go bragh

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Both Cadden and Murphy to a lesser extent were very poor at making any forward movement.

Cadden looked like he had never played with his team mates before yesterday and maybe is better as a wing back and not as a traditional fullback?

***Jones28*** · 17-10-2021 06:59 PM

It’s a bit self-important to make an announcement like this but I’ve deleted my previous, very ott and out of character comment.

**Hibs90** · 17-10-2021 07:28 PM

First game in Scotland and has to adjust to the pace up here, and you can tell he is a bit short of match experience and got caught out a couple of times but recovered fairly well. He will be a good player one day, just not at us.

**marinello59** · 17-10-2021 08:16 PM

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It’s a bit self-important to make an announcement like this but I’ve deleted my previous, very ott and out of character comment.

I wouldn’t worry about it. We are all passionate football fans here and we all go a bit OTT at times.

**hibsbollah** · 17-10-2021 08:19 PM

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My rule of thumb is when someone uses a phrase like Billy Big Baws or Wage Thief what they are saying is guff for the reasons stated in you last sentence.

Very true. Two expressions that need a banning order.

***green day*** · 18-10-2021 06:26 AM

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First game in Scotland and has to adjust to the pace up here, and you can tell he is a bit short of match experience and got caught out a couple of times but recovered fairly well. He will be a good player one day, just not at us.

That being the case, then he shouldnt be anywhere near Hibs.

I have to say our record of employing players who are not match fit, visibly not good enough, carrying injuries or with a history of spending considerable time on the treatment table is getting irritating.

Our subs bench (and arguably a couple of the starters on Saturday) are demonstrable evidence of this poor recruitment.

Exasperating.............

**~~Bangkok Hibby~~** · 18-10-2021 06:33 AM

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It’s a bit self-important to make an announcement like this but I’ve deleted my previous, very ott and out of character comment.

Admin are fond of deleting comments. If they didn't then it must have been fine.

***Keith_M*** · 18-10-2021 06:37 AM

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It’s a bit self-important to make an announcement like this but I’ve deleted my previous, very ott and out of character comment.

**Smartie** · 18-10-2021 07:01 AM

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That being the case, then he shouldnt be anywhere near Hibs.

I have to say our record of employing players who are not match fit, visibly not good enough, carrying injuries or with a history of spending considerable time on the treatment table is getting irritating.

Our subs bench (and arguably a couple of the starters on Saturday) are demonstrable evidence of this poor recruitment.

Exasperating.............

Whilst I acknowledge that this is partly true, we’ve just dropped out of the top 4 for the first time in yonks.

Given we were in the Championship for 3 years not that long ago, we must have also got a few right along the way too.

Upon signing, are the credentials for the failures obviously poorer than those for the likes of Martin Boyle?

***green day*** · 18-10-2021 07:05 AM

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Whilst I acknowledge that this is partly true, we’ve just dropped out of the top 4 for the first time in yonks.

Given we were in the Championship for 3 years not that long ago, we must have also got a few right along the way too.

Upon signing, are the credentials for the failures obviously poorer than those for the likes of Martin Boyle?

When MB was signed, we were running with a larger squad (iirc) and I dont think any of us had any expectation of him doing anything immediately.

Now, our thin squad means that any player arriving now needs to hit the ground running.............not hit the ground, hold their ankle and go straight to the treatment table

***jacomo*** · 18-10-2021 08:21 AM

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Thought Cadden’s lack of movement when Wood was looking to pass to him was dreadful. He made no effort to move to the ball and as a result a United player was usually arriving at the same time as the ball. The midfield of course just hid. Nobody made angles or attempted to create space for a player to come forward with the ball.

Agree, and the two issues are connected. Cadden should have been much more proactive, driving forward into right midfield. This would have given Dundee Utd something else to think about and our midfielders another option.

As it was they were outnumbered and under the cosh.

***JimBHibees*** · 18-10-2021 08:30 AM

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Some of the posts on here are reactionary drivel.

He didn’t have a great game yesterday but it’s hard to shine when everyone in front of you is hiding. There was rarely a pass on for him or an out ball, he was seriously let down by the team.

Agree with that. While he didn't have the best game himself and was lucky he wasn't caught on the ball he was significantly let down by team mates.

**Key West** · 18-10-2021 09:52 AM

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Agree with that. While he didn't have the best game himself and was lucky he wasn't caught on the ball he was significantly let down by team mates.

Unfortunately for the lad it looks like Porteous and Hanlon are automatic picks and I don't think he's going to get many opportunities to prove himself.

***Jones28*** · 18-10-2021 10:13 AM

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Admin are fond of deleting comments. If they didn't then it must have been fine.

It was entirely up to me, I'm not one for defending points that I write and later change my mind on.

***LaMotta*** · 18-10-2021 02:22 PM

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Agree with that. While he didn't have the best game himself and was lucky he wasn't caught on the ball he was significantly let down by team mates.

There's some truth in that Jim but I think its equally fair to say Wood let his teammates down and the manager who placed trust in him over McGregor.

I think McGregor will play alongside Hanlon this Saturday. If Wood does get another chance then fingers crossed for a massive improvement.

**gbhibby** · 18-10-2021 02:46 PM

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Some of the posts on here are reactionary drivel.

He didn’t have a great game yesterday but it’s hard to shine when everyone in front of you is hiding. There was rarely a pass on for him or an out ball, he was seriously let down by the team.

Agree Matty. There was a lack of movement in general by more experienced players who made it easy to be closed down. Easy to make him a scapegoat but there was 6 or 7 who were worse than he was.