Aberdeen at it...

[Renfrew_Hibby]

... not going to be implementing vaccine checks at games v us and Hearts because they are predicting crowds of 9,700 at both and if it's under 10K then you're exempt.

So no checks and 14,000 to turn up then, guess we could be doing the same. Farce.

[green day]

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... not going to be implementing vaccine checks at games v us and Hearts because they are predicting crowds of 9,700 at both and if it's under 10K then you're exempt.

So no checks and 14,000 to turn up then, guess we could be doing the same. Farce.

They have said that - in line with may clubs - their official crowds have been "tickets sold" whereas due to covid (and the fact they are crap) their actual in stadium attendances are a lot lower.

For Hibs / Hearts, they are charging their fans up to £34 !!

Our fans will be charged £29 and its the ticket pricing and the fact they are mince that means they think they wont hit 10k

[Moulin Yarns]

I presumed that the capacity of the stadium should be what decided on the requirements of covid status checks.

[Shrekko]

The actual crowds probably will be under 10,000 to be fair.

[Irish_Steve]

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I presumed that the capacity of the stadium should be what decided on the requirements of covid status checks.

That was my reading of it too - it doesn't matter how many turn up on the day, it was the capacity that determined if you needed checks

[H18 SFR]

I don't see any problem with this at all, let alone them being 'at it'.

[Renfrew_Hibby]

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They have said that - in line with may clubs - their official crowds have been "tickets sold" whereas due to covid (and the fact they are crap) their actual in stadium attendances are a lot lower.

For Hibs / Hearts, they are charging their fans up to £34 !!

Our fans will be charged £29 and its the ticket pricing and the fact they are mince that means they think they wont hit 10k

Just goes to show how this whole things going to be manipulated. Will clubs have to start publishing, actual through the turnstiles attendances alongside tickets sold ones?

You can predict 9,000 and 12,000 turn up. Whole things a joke and that's comming from a supporter of the Scottish Government.

[Jones28]

So if 15,000 turn up they will presumably be breaking the law and will face a punishment of some description?

[CMurdoch]

They have 8870 season ticket holders
Circa 10% won't attend
That takes their number attending to under 8000

That leaves 2000 tickets for sale before they breach the 10,000
Can't see any chance them being able to sell that many

How many Hibs supporters do you reckon will go to the game?

[Sir David Gray]

If this ends up happening then it makes a mockery of the whole thing and it would be as well just being scrapped.

[Helensburghhibs]

They aren't at it if they believe their crowd won't breach 10k. Time the whole nonsense scheme was abandoned anyway

[WhileTheChief..]

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I don't see any problem with this at all, let alone them being 'at it'.

Agreed, they’ve been taking a decent common sense approach to things.

[Peevemor]

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So if 15,000 turn up they will presumably be breaking the law and will face a punishment of some description?

They should be.

I have no problem with clubs publicly declaring the number of tickets sold as opposed to the actual number in attendance - a sell out is a sell out.

However, in this day and age they'll know in real time the number of people who have passed through the turnstiles - I'd be surprised if clubs don't have to provide accurate figures for policing/stewarding & insurance purposes.

There's no excuse for them to exceed the 10k mark, and if they do they should be punished.

The minute folk start making up their own rules, we're gubbed.

[Skol]

While this is probably OK, it is very risky if more than 10k turn up and they havent carried out checks

[JohnMcM]

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I don't see any problem with this at all, let alone them being 'at it'.

Me neither.

[Sir David Gray]

When did businesses have a get out clause with this law which allows them to ignore it on the basis that their predicted attendance will be below 10,000? What then happens if more than 10,000 end up turning up?

That seems completely open to abuse.

[lord bunberry]

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So if 15,000 turn up they will presumably be breaking the law and will face a punishment of some description?

They probably won’t be selling tickets at the gate so they will have a fair idea what the attendance will be. If they sell a load of extra tickets they’ll have to make an announcement that they’re going to do checks. Their biggest problem would be if all their season ticket holders happened to turn up, but I think they’d get away with that due to it being an unusual event.

[Moulin Yarns]

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When did businesses have a get out clause with this law which allows them to ignore it on the basis that their predicted attendance will be below 10,000? What then happens if more than 10,000 end up turning up?

That seems completely open to abuse.

Just had a look at the government advice to businesses.

https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-certification-scheme-businesses-event-organisers/pages/events/


If the event is 'planned' for under 10,000 then no check is required, regardless of capacity. From this I would think that Aberdeen would have to limit access to prepurchased tickets only and stop sales at 9,999.

[Moulin Yarns]

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They probably won’t be selling tickets at the gate so they will have a fair idea what the attendance will be. If they sell a load of extra tickets they’ll have to make an announcement that they’re going to do checks. Their biggest problem would be if all their season ticket holders happened to turn up, but I think they’d get away with that due to it being an unusual event.

Or they only sell tickets up to a revised capacity of 9,999 on the assumption that all season tickets are in attendance.

This is likely to result in the same situation of no away supporters at games

[greenginger]

Has it been decided whether delegates , advisers etc to the COPS conference next month will require vaccine certification when they attend the various assemblies. ?

[Sir David Gray]

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Just had a look at the government advice to businesses.

https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-certification-scheme-businesses-event-organisers/pages/events/


If the event is 'planned' for under 10,000 then no check is required, regardless of capacity. From this I would think that Aberdeen would have to limit access to prepurchased tickets only and stop sales at 9,999.

All seems a bit of a nonsense really.

[Moulin Yarns]

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All seems a bit of a nonsense really.

You're entitled to that opinion, however if Aberdeen has decided that is the route that they want to go down to avoid checks it will be the fans who are adversely affected.

[whiskyhibby]

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If this ends up happening then it makes a mockery of the whole thing and it would be as well just being scrapped.

It was a mockery to start with and should never have been considered, it’s like the vaccine programme never happened, they should concentrate on getting GPs doing their job properly and thus helping to offload hospitals

[whiskyhibby]

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Has it been decided whether delegates , advisers etc to the COPS conference next month will require vaccine certification when they attend the various assemblies. ?

Yes and the answer is no, to quote animal farm, “all animals are equal, some are more equal than others”

[Col2]

Don’t see the issue. The Scottish Govt have implemented a new procedure which has no clear visible benefit yet costs the clubs money and supporters a potential delay in getting in.

All as a stick to get more vaccinated when our vaccination level is the highest in the UK. A lazy answer to a perceived problem. They have the ok to vaccinate 12-15 year olds now so the uptake will increase.

We are the only country in Europe doing this (some others offering option of negative lateral flow test).

I am double jabbed and so are family and friends so no issues with vaccine. Friends of ours have caught it recently. They are unwell but manageable. The transmission protection from vaccine is limited. This is reality now.

[Unseen work]

No issues with it.

The legislation seems a bit ridiculous for it and not very well thought out so if it’s based on predicted numbers based on tickets sold I imagine that’s right for Aberdeen.

They’ll get above that as I’m sure there will be quite a few walk ins from the home and away support.

[Coco Bryce]

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If this ends up happening then it makes a mockery of the whole thing and it would be as well just being scrapped.

And hopefully will be. Completely pointless operation from the word go.

[Coco Bryce]

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Don’t see the issue. The Scottish Govt have implemented a new procedure which has no clear visible benefit yet costs the clubs money and supporters a potential delay in getting in.

All as a stick to get more vaccinated when our vaccination level is the highest in the UK. A lazy answer to a perceived problem. They have the ok to vaccinate 12-15 year olds now so the uptake will increase.

We are the only country in Europe doing this (some others offering option of negative lateral flow test).

I am double jabbed and so are family and friends so no issues with vaccine. Friends of ours have caught it recently. They are unwell but manageable. The transmission protection from vaccine is limited. This is reality now.

Most people I know that have had or currently have Covid are all double jabbed. One is in hospital the others had 'heavy cold' symptoms.

[Ringothedog]

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They have 8870 season ticket holders
Circa 10% won't attend
That takes their number attending to under 8000

That leaves 2000 tickets for sale before they breach the 10,000
Can't see any chance them being able to sell that many

How many Hibs supporters do you reckon will go to the game?

My guess would be about 1200

[hibbysam]

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Just had a look at the government advice to businesses.

https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-certification-scheme-businesses-event-organisers/pages/events/


If the event is 'planned' for under 10,000 then no check is required, regardless of capacity. From this I would think that Aberdeen would have to limit access to prepurchased tickets only and stop sales at 9,999.

The point you make shows how daft the whole thing is though, 9,999 turn up and no checks necessary, 1 more person turns up and everyone needs to be checked (well should but they’re getting away with ‘spot checks’).

That 1 person makes zero difference in Covid terms but ends up causing all sorts of havoc logistically.