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    Aberdeen at it...

    ... not going to be implementing vaccine checks at games v us and Hearts because they are predicting crowds of 9,700 at both and if it's under 10K then you're exempt.

    So no checks and 14,000 to turn up then, guess we could be doing the same. Farce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renfrew_Hibby View Post
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    ... not going to be implementing vaccine checks at games v us and Hearts because they are predicting crowds of 9,700 at both and if it's under 10K then you're exempt.

    So no checks and 14,000 to turn up then, guess we could be doing the same. Farce.
    They have said that - in line with may clubs - their official crowds have been "tickets sold" whereas due to covid (and the fact they are crap) their actual in stadium attendances are a lot lower.

    For Hibs / Hearts, they are charging their fans up to £34 !!

    Our fans will be charged £29 and its the ticket pricing and the fact they are mince that means they think they wont hit 10k

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    Quote Originally Posted by green day View Post
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    They have said that - in line with may clubs - their official crowds have been "tickets sold" whereas due to covid (and the fact they are crap) their actual in stadium attendances are a lot lower.

    For Hibs / Hearts, they are charging their fans up to £34 !!

    Our fans will be charged £29 and its the ticket pricing and the fact they are mince that means they think they wont hit 10k
    Just goes to show how this whole things going to be manipulated. Will clubs have to start publishing, actual through the turnstiles attendances alongside tickets sold ones?

    You can predict 9,000 and 12,000 turn up. Whole things a joke and that's comming from a supporter of the Scottish Government.

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    I presumed that the capacity of the stadium should be what decided on the requirements of covid status checks.
    There is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    I presumed that the capacity of the stadium should be what decided on the requirements of covid status checks.
    That was my reading of it too - it doesn't matter how many turn up on the day, it was the capacity that determined if you needed checks

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    The actual crowds probably will be under 10,000 to be fair.

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    I don't see any problem with this at all, let alone them being 'at it'.

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    They have 8870 season ticket holders
    Circa 10% won't attend
    That takes their number attending to under 8000

    That leaves 2000 tickets for sale before they breach the 10,000
    Can't see any chance them being able to sell that many

    How many Hibs supporters do you reckon will go to the game?
    Last edited by CMurdoch; 07-10-2021 at 11:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMurdoch View Post
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    They have 8870 season ticket holders
    Circa 10% won't attend
    That takes their number attending to under 8000

    That leaves 2000 tickets for sale before they breach the 10,000
    Can't see any chance them being able to sell that many

    How many Hibs supporters do you reckon will go to the game?
    My guess would be about 1200

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    Much ado about nothing in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMurdoch View Post
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    How many Hibs supporters do you reckon will go to the game?
    According to their statement we are getting allocated 800 tickets for the game so I’d imagine that will sell out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey_1875 View Post
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    According to their statement we are getting allocated 800 tickets for the game so I’d imagine that will sell out.

    Why so low?


    They have 10k empty seats every week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by H18 SFR View Post
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    I don't see any problem with this at all, let alone them being 'at it'.
    Agreed, they’ve been taking a decent common sense approach to things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by H18 SFR View Post
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    I don't see any problem with this at all, let alone them being 'at it'.
    Me neither.

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    So if 15,000 turn up they will presumably be breaking the law and will face a punishment of some description?
    "...when Hibs won the Scottish Cup final and that celebration, Sunshine on Leith? I don’t think there’s a better football celebration ever in the game.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jones28 View Post
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    So if 15,000 turn up they will presumably be breaking the law and will face a punishment of some description?
    They should be.

    I have no problem with clubs publicly declaring the number of tickets sold as opposed to the actual number in attendance - a sell out is a sell out.

    However, in this day and age they'll know in real time the number of people who have passed through the turnstiles - I'd be surprised if clubs don't have to provide accurate figures for policing/stewarding & insurance purposes.

    There's no excuse for them to exceed the 10k mark, and if they do they should be punished.

    The minute folk start making up their own rules, we're gubbed.
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    While this is probably OK, it is very risky if more than 10k turn up and they havent carried out checks

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    While this is probably OK, it is very risky if more than 10k turn up and they havent carried out checks
    Like most clubs you cant pay at the gate so once you've sold 9,999 ticket you stop and avoid the checks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skol View Post
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    While this is probably OK, it is very risky if more than 10k turn up and they havent carried out checks

    Risky in terms of breaching the rules.

    In terms of Covid risk, 10k is an arbitrary number.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jones28 View Post
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    So if 15,000 turn up they will presumably be breaking the law and will face a punishment of some description?
    They probably won’t be selling tickets at the gate so they will have a fair idea what the attendance will be. If they sell a load of extra tickets they’ll have to make an announcement that they’re going to do checks. Their biggest problem would be if all their season ticket holders happened to turn up, but I think they’d get away with that due to it being an unusual event.

    United we stand here....

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    Quote Originally Posted by lord bunberry View Post
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    They probably won’t be selling tickets at the gate so they will have a fair idea what the attendance will be. If they sell a load of extra tickets they’ll have to make an announcement that they’re going to do checks. Their biggest problem would be if all their season ticket holders happened to turn up, but I think they’d get away with that due to it being an unusual event.
    Or they only sell tickets up to a revised capacity of 9,999 on the assumption that all season tickets are in attendance.

    This is likely to result in the same situation of no away supporters at games

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    If this ends up happening then it makes a mockery of the whole thing and it would be as well just being scrapped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir David Gray View Post
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    If this ends up happening then it makes a mockery of the whole thing and it would be as well just being scrapped.
    It was a mockery to start with and should never have been considered, it’s like the vaccine programme never happened, they should concentrate on getting GPs doing their job properly and thus helping to offload hospitals

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir David Gray View Post
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    If this ends up happening then it makes a mockery of the whole thing and it would be as well just being scrapped.
    And hopefully will be. Completely pointless operation from the word go.

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    They aren't at it if they believe their crowd won't breach 10k. Time the whole nonsense scheme was abandoned anyway

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    When did businesses have a get out clause with this law which allows them to ignore it on the basis that their predicted attendance will be below 10,000? What then happens if more than 10,000 end up turning up?

    That seems completely open to abuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir David Gray View Post
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    When did businesses have a get out clause with this law which allows them to ignore it on the basis that their predicted attendance will be below 10,000? What then happens if more than 10,000 end up turning up?

    That seems completely open to abuse.
    Just had a look at the government advice to businesses.

    https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-certification-scheme-businesses-event-organisers/pages/events/


    If the event is 'planned' for under 10,000 then no check is required, regardless of capacity. From this I would think that Aberdeen would have to limit access to prepurchased tickets only and stop sales at 9,999.
    There is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    Just had a look at the government advice to businesses.

    https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-certification-scheme-businesses-event-organisers/pages/events/


    If the event is 'planned' for under 10,000 then no check is required, regardless of capacity. From this I would think that Aberdeen would have to limit access to prepurchased tickets only and stop sales at 9,999.
    All seems a bit of a nonsense really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir David Gray View Post
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    All seems a bit of a nonsense really.
    You're entitled to that opinion, however if Aberdeen has decided that is the route that they want to go down to avoid checks it will be the fans who are adversely affected.
    There is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    Just had a look at the government advice to businesses.

    https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-certification-scheme-businesses-event-organisers/pages/events/


    If the event is 'planned' for under 10,000 then no check is required, regardless of capacity. From this I would think that Aberdeen would have to limit access to prepurchased tickets only and stop sales at 9,999.
    The point you make shows how daft the whole thing is though, 9,999 turn up and no checks necessary, 1 more person turns up and everyone needs to be checked (well should but they’re getting away with ‘spot checks’).

    That 1 person makes zero difference in Covid terms but ends up causing all sorts of havoc logistically.

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