'The kid's not learning'

[WeeRussell]

I have to be honest, as much as I can’t stand the prick.. having watched his comments in full, rather than just read a couple of quotes on here, I’m struggling to be that upset about it now.

Gerrard actually acknowledges that he was a bit of a dirty bastart (twice) and basically makes the same points some of us are about the challenge.. after being asked. Aye there was no need for “the kid’s not learning” but he also goes on to say its Jack Ross’ business (after correctly pointing out Porto let his teammates and manager down).

Aye he’s a hun welt.. but I think this is just another thing getting blown out of proportion because of us losing what could have been a brilliant 3 points. Plenty managers make wee comments like this, deliberately or otherwise. Definitely no need for our supporters demanding that JR comes out blasting Gerrard.

Don’t get me wrong - he’s still a complete and utter to55er.

[CallumLaidlaw]

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I have to be honest, as much as I can’t stand the prick.. having watched his comments in full, rather than just read a couple of quotes on here, I’m struggling to be that upset about it now.

Gerrard actually acknowledges that he was a bit of a dirty bastart (twice) and basically makes the same points some of us are about the challenge.. after being asked. Aye there was no need for “the kid’s not learning” but he also goes on to say its Jack Ross’ business (after correctly pointing out Porto let his teammates and manager down).

Aye he’s a hun welt.. but I think this is just another thing getting blown out of proportion because of us losing what could have been a brilliant 3 points. Plenty managers make wee comments like this, deliberately or otherwise. Definitely no need for our supporters demanding that JR comes out blasting Gerrard.

Don’t get me wrong - he’s still a complete and utter to55er.

“I had to learn”. Did he? At 35yrs old he was still getting sent off for needless challenges.
All we need to remember is, if another manager was saying the same about Morelos, he wouldn’t be happy.
Gerrard knows what he’s doing. It’s been around 2 years since Rangers have had a red card in the league - ever since Gerrard asked for “fairness”.


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[Fuzzywuzzy]

Can pretty much guarantee that he'll be targeted early doors in the semi.

[Danderhall Hibs]

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I have to be honest, as much as I can’t stand the prick.. having watched his comments in full, rather than just read a couple of quotes on here, I’m struggling to be that upset about it now.

Gerrard actually acknowledges that he was a bit of a dirty bastart (twice) and basically makes the same points some of us are about the challenge.. after being asked. Aye there was no need for “the kid’s not learning” but he also goes on to say its Jack Ross’ business (after correctly pointing out Porto let his teammates and manager down).

Aye he’s a hun welt.. but I think this is just another thing getting blown out of proportion because of us losing what could have been a brilliant 3 points. Plenty managers make wee comments like this, deliberately or otherwise. Definitely no need for our supporters demanding that JR comes out blasting Gerrard.

Don’t get me wrong - he’s still a complete and utter to55er.

I agree with a lot of this. His comments do contradict Godwin’s comments from a few weeks ago when he commented on RP (to less outrage) about him being too soft.

[Sir David Gray]

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“I had to learn”. Did he? At 35yrs old he was still getting sent off for needless challenges.
All we need to remember is, if another manager was saying the same about Morelos, he wouldn’t be happy.
Gerrard knows what he’s doing. It’s been around 2 years since Rangers have had a red card in the league - ever since Gerrard asked for “fairness”.


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Absolutely - which is why Hibs can't let this lie with regards to his scandalous comments.

[easty]

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I have to be honest, as much as I can’t stand the prick.. having watched his comments in full, rather than just read a couple of quotes on here, I’m struggling to be that upset about it now.

Gerrard actually acknowledges that he was a bit of a dirty bastart (twice) and basically makes the same points some of us are about the challenge.. after being asked. Aye there was no need for “the kid’s not learning” but he also goes on to say its Jack Ross’ business (after correctly pointing out Porto let his teammates and manager down).

Aye he’s a hun welt.. but I think this is just another thing getting blown out of proportion because of us losing what could have been a brilliant 3 points. Plenty managers make wee comments like this, deliberately or otherwise. Definitely no need for our supporters demanding that JR comes out blasting Gerrard.

Don’t get me wrong - he’s still a complete and utter to55er.

A lot of people being slightly over-offended in my opinion.

[Smartie]

Re Gerrard - the fact that he put in the odd horror tackle and the fact that he wasn't universally popular didn't take away from the fact that he was a superb player.

Porteous needs to be very careful who he listens to here and how much he chooses to adapt his game accordingly. There is definitely room for improvement in some areas but f*** taking advice from someone who doesn't have your interests at heart in any way.

[SteveHFC]

Hope we see Gerrard in tears the next time we play them after beating them.

[.Sean.]

Least when the time comes for Porteous to move on and progress his career he’ll no have local gangsters telling him he can’t.

Gerrard is pondlife and a total hypocrite. Well suited to Rangers. I cannot wait to scud him and that fat wee welt Morelos next month.

[WeeRussell]

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“I had to learn”. Did he? At 35yrs old he was still getting sent off for needless challenges.
All we need to remember is, if another manager was saying the same about Morelos, he wouldn’t be happy.
Gerrard knows what he’s doing. It’s been around 2 years since Rangers have had a red card in the league - ever since Gerrard asked for “fairness”.


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I don't necessarily disagree with one word of that Callum. But was what he said really that bad or different from what gets said every week by one manager or another?

"Scandalous" is completely over the top in my opinion.

I hate the huns more than hearts - so I'm not entirely comfortable arguing against this I can assure you I just think the fallout of Sunday is making a few of us sound very 'Celticy' in our reaction and analysis... another uncomfortable position.

[Smartie]

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I don't necessarily disagree with one word of that Callum. But was what he said really that bad or different from what gets said every week by one manager or another?

"Scandalous" is completely over the top in my opinion.

I hate the huns more than hearts - so I'm not entirely comfortable arguing against this I can assure you I just think the fallout of Sunday is making a few of us sound very 'Celticy' in our reaction and analysis... another uncomfortable position.

I get your point here and I don't disagree with it but I do have sympathy for folk who may be losing patience and starting to act a bit unreasonable.

At what point do you cry foul? If it's not after 4 consecutive games decided by the odd goal in games against Rangers with the game decided by a significant game-changing decision in Rangers' favour, then I don't know when it is.

The decision and the game the other day is one thing, it can happen. It's starting to fit a pattern though, and that's where the conspiracy theories and Celticy nonsense can take hold.

[WeeRussell]

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I get your point here and I don't disagree with it but I do have sympathy for folk who may be losing patience and starting to act a bit unreasonable.

At what point do you cry foul? If it's not after 4 consecutive games decided by the odd goal in games against Rangers with the game decided by a significant game-changing decision in Rangers' favour, then I don't know when it is.

The decision and the game the other day is one thing, it can happen. It's starting to fit a pattern though, and that's where the conspiracy theories and Celticy nonsense can take hold.

Yep - fully accepted, Smartie

[blackpoolhibs]

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I get your point here and I don't disagree with it but I do have sympathy for folk who may be losing patience and starting to act a bit unreasonable.

At what point do you cry foul? If it's not after 4 consecutive games decided by the odd goal in games against Rangers with the game decided by a significant game-changing decision in Rangers' favour, then I don't know when it is.

The decision and the game the other day is one thing, it can happen. It's starting to fit a pattern though, and that's where the conspiracy theories and Celticy nonsense can take hold.

It's not 4 games in a row for me though, add on numerous other cheating moments from Sunday all the way back to McCloy bringing down Colin Campbell for a stick on penalty that was ignored over 40 years ago.

The referee's are corrupt.

[Sir David Gray]

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Hope we see Gerrard in tears the next time we play them after beating them.

I would absolutely love to see that happen next month at Hampden.

There's very little that would make me happier.

**** Steven Gerrard.

[Since452]

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Hope we see Gerrard in tears the next time we play them after beating them.

Porto header last minute winner. FWIW I think we'll win the semi.

[blackpoolhibs]

Can you imagine any manager or commentator saying what slippy said about one of his players, he'd go mental and they would be barred from their cesspit.

[Sir David Gray]

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Can you imagine any manager or commentator saying what slippy said about one of his players, he'd go mental and they would be barred from their cesspit.

Yep totally agree.

[Brightside]

As must as I agree Gerrard needs to mind his own business. There is still some truth in his comment. Porto is improving but he’s still putting in tackles like that when he doesn’t have to. A slide tackle is the last form of defending.

[Jones28]

Now that the appeal has been rejected it’s time to focus on the semi final and do our talking on the pitch.

[One Day Soon]

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Can you imagine any manager or commentator saying what slippy said about one of his players, he'd go mental and they would be barred from their cesspit.

Correct. And neither should managers be saying these things about the employees of other clubs. I'm astonished that more isn't being made of this completely out of order intervention in the affairs of another club by the media, our club or indeed the football authorities.

Or is it just open season now for employees of one club to start publicly assessing and criticising the internal workings of other clubs?

[JimBHibees]

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Correct. And neither should managers be saying these things about the employees of other clubs. I'm astonished that more isn't being made of this completely out of order intervention in the affairs of another club by the media, our club or indeed the football authorities.

Or is it just open season now for employees of one club to start publicly assessing and criticising the internal workings of other clubs?

Agree totally Rangers appear to be able to say anything they want about other players other clubs referees Covid commercial deals etc without any apparent recourse or investigation. There used to be a regular bringing the game into disrepute charge which never seems to be used now. SFA seem to be incredibly passive and lacking in the will to get involved not sure to what extent that reflects Rods position as he was never one for taking them on when at our club. Whole game needs a shake governance wise.

[mjhibby]

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I get your point here and I don't disagree with it but I do have sympathy for folk who may be losing patience and starting to act a bit unreasonable.

At what point do you cry foul? If it's not after 4 consecutive games decided by the odd goal in games against Rangers with the game decided by a significant game-changing decision in Rangers' favour, then I don't know when it is.

The decision and the game the other day is one thing, it can happen. It's starting to fit a pattern though, and that's where the conspiracy theories and Celticy nonsense can take hold.

With the ref from Govan and a pattern of decisions clearly happening the normal mantra of these decisions levelling out over a season looks redundant. When supporters of other clubs see this too then clearly there is a massive issue. Sevco know they are at risk of losing games against us and however honest refs are if you live in Govan and had they lost on Sunday Walsh would have been remembered as the guy who reffed the game. The more you look at it the more it seems may 2016 has made their bias worse. The fact the media never focused on their shocking tackle on doig shows they are complicit in allowing this trend to continue. Porteous may or may not deserved to be sent off but morelos staying on at Easter Road then scoring the winner and many many other game changing decisions in their favour shows a massive trend. Same as always been back to John Mcdonald diving.

[mjhibby]

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We should put clips of Gerard’s awful tackles from his playing days on the big screens throughout the match next time they are at Easter Road

Up there there with souness top ten assaults. Utterly farcical that spineless Gerrard is lecturing anybody on tackling.

[Percy Vere]

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I'm aware there are already umpteen threads on the Porteous incident so please feel free to merge this one.

It's just that every time I see that line from Gerrard it really, really does my head in. I didn't used to mind him as a player, but this kind of comment just fuels my ever-growing dislike of him as a manager.

Everything about it is maddening. It's condescending (Ryan is hardly a 'kid'. He's young, sure, but he's got plenty of senior experience under his belt). It's disrespectful to Jack Ross and the Hibs coaching staff who work with Porteous day in day out (who is Gerrard to say the player isn't learning?) and it strikes me as deliberately fuelling a narrative around a talented, intelligent footballer who even without my green-tinted glasses on I can see plain as day is not some sort of hatchet man. Finally, it just smacks of a deeply unpleasant arrogance from Gerrard that his big name alone is enough for us to assume his word on this is law.

Gerard is an arrogant man with a massively inflated view of his own importance. His comments are unwanted and as you point out not his to assess the progress or otherwise of another teams player.
Ryan's stats this season show that in fact he is learning!
He's staying on his feet more, he's being more selective about when to tackle, intercepts are up, his distribution is up, passing accuracy, shots on goal improved. He's being considered for Scotland and rightly so.
He's a very good passionate player, its all a learning curve and i for one believe he is learning.

[Jim44]

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Gerard is an arrogant man with a massively inflated view of his own importance. His comments are unwanted and as you point out not his to assess the progress or otherwise of another teams player.
Ryan's stats this season show that in fact he is learning!
He's staying on his feet more, he's being more selective about when to tackle, intercepts are up, his distribution is up, passing accuracy, shots on goal improved. He's being considered for Scotland and rightly so.
He's a very good passionate player, its all a learning curve and i for one believe he is learning.

Gerrard is a nasty piece of work, was as a player and carried into his managerial role. He and Rangers deserve each other.