Hibs to appeal Red Card

[DanishJohn]

Good to learn this.

Hope Ron get's right behind this and has the services of some good legal minds.

I have no knowledge of the law but should Hibs win the case, could the following happen?

1 We go after the football authorities for damages.
2 We go after the referee for damages
(above based on Liability)

3 And kept the best for last

Could Gerrard face a court action for defamation of character against Ryan Porteous ?

[CropleyWasGod]

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Good to learn this.

Hope Ron get's right behind this and has the services of some good legal minds.

I have no knowledge of the law but should Hibs win the case, could the following happen?

1 We go after the football authorities for damages.
2 We go after the referee for damages
(above based on Liability)

3 And kept the best for last

Could Gerrard face a court action for defamation of character against Ryan Porteous ?

None of the above

[Cod Boy]

Will lose appeal because of the opposition and the panel will back the official

[neil7908]

Glad we are challenging this. Well done Hibs.

[007]

Glad we are appealing but would also like to see a complaint against Lundstram lodged with the Compliance Officer for his tackle on Doig. There are definitely double standards here. Our players need protection.

[Ryan91]

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Will lose appeal because of the opposition and the panel will back the official

Be nice to see Hibs bring this little clip up and ask why Lundstrum doesn't see Red there

https://twitter.com/ScottyHibs/statu...88120429178880

[Peevemor]

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Be nice to see Hibs bring this little clip up and ask why Lundstrum doesn't see Red there

https://twitter.com/ScottyHibs/statu...88120429178880

I doubt it works like that. I'd imagine they'll look at the Porto incident in isolation.

[Hibernia&Alba]

They won't overturn it; and, even if they do, it won't restore the point or three we were heading for.

[ian cruise]

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Good to learn this.

Hope Ron get's right behind this and has the services of some good legal minds.

I have no knowledge of the law but should Hibs win the case, could the following happen?

1 We go after the football authorities for damages.
2 We go after the referee for damages
(above based on Liability)

3 And kept the best for last

Could Gerrard face a court action for defamation of character against Ryan Porteous ?

You can't take legal action against the ruling body, did Hearts not fall foul of that following their failed attempt at avoiding relegation?

Best case scenario, we win appeal (I think we will) and once done, we come out criticising Gerrard, etc for what they said about Ryan using the rescinded red card as substantial proof he's not a dirty player and it was a poor call.

Doing so prior to the appeal risks the sfa doubling down and rejecting the appeal to protect their man.

I don't think Ryan will be totally cleared, expecting it to be downgraded to a yellow. Lundstrum should have same retrospectively applied for his lunge.

[Unseen work]

It was never a red.
Lundstrams was never a red.
Barisic’ was never a red.

Not a hope it gets overturned though.

It really gets to me how football is examined and refereed now a days. Every tackle is a foul if you slow it down of pause it a certain way.

The whole “what if he made contact” comments are nonsense (to a certain degree). 9/10 the difference is that ones a foul and ones not, that’s how you differentiate it.

But it’s a physical and contact sport. When you’re running and sliding you’re going to be off the ground/out of control at some point.

It also gets to me guys like Gerrard coming out with the nonsense he does when you see some of the tackles he put in as a player, absolute ****.

Re Barisic and Lundstram - I get and appreciate why people are comparing them, just IMO neither are reds but in fairness I don’t think many on here think they actually are.

[Stonewall]

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Glad we are appealing but would also like to see a complaint against Lundstram lodged with the Compliance Officer for his tackle on Doig. There are definitely double standards here. Our players need protection.

Why are we letting Barosic away with his misdemeanour?

[Unseen work]

Sorry I feel like i need to say it again, I absolutely hate Gerrard.

Everything about him.

Absolute hypocrite.

[Hibernia&Alba]

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It was never a red.
Lundstrams was never a red.
Barisic’ was never a red.

Not a hope it gets overturned though.

It really gets to me how football is examined and refereed now a days. Every tackle is a foul if you slow it down of pause it a certain way.

The whole “what if he made contact” comments are nonsense (to a certain degree). 9/10 the difference is that ones a foul and ones not, that’s how you differentiate it.

But it’s a physical and contact sport. When you’re running and sliding you’re going to be off the ground/out of control at some point.

It also gets to me guys like Gerrard coming out with the nonsense he does when you see some of the tackles he put in as a player, absolute ****.

Re Barisic and Lundstram - I get and appreciate why people are comparing them, just IMO neither are reds but in fairness I don’t think many on here think they actually are.

Completely agree with you. I've been saying for years the game is being ruined because tackling is being removed from football. Like you say, everything is now a foul or a booking.

[Sir David Gray]

It's going to be a futile exercise but well done to the club for putting in the appeal.

[jakedance]

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Good to learn this.

Hope Ron get's right behind this and has the services of some good legal minds.

I have no knowledge of the law but should Hibs win the case, could the following happen?

1 We go after the football authorities for damages.
2 We go after the referee for damages
(above based on Liability)

3 And kept the best for last

Could Gerrard face a court action for defamation of character against Ryan Porteous ?

Lol. Nope. None of those things can happen.

[Andy74]

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It was never a red.
Lundstrams was never a red.
Barisic’ was never a red.

Not a hope it gets overturned though.

It really gets to me how football is examined and refereed now a days. Every tackle is a foul if you slow it down of pause it a certain way.

The whole “what if he made contact” comments are nonsense (to a certain degree). 9/10 the difference is that ones a foul and ones not, that’s how you differentiate it.

But it’s a physical and contact sport. When you’re running and sliding you’re going to be off the ground/out of control at some point.

It also gets to me guys like Gerrard coming out with the nonsense he does when you see some of the tackles he put in as a player, absolute ****.

Re Barisic and Lundstram - I get and appreciate why people are comparing them, just IMO neither are reds but in fairness I don’t think many on here think they actually are.

The Lundstram one is the type you don’t want to see. Launching into the air with both feet off the ground and making contact.

[Iain G]

Loving the wording on the tweet Hibs posted

"We have lodged an appeal against Ryan Porteous’ red card in yesterday’s cinch Premiership match against Rangers."

Rubbing them up the wrong way by mentioning the sponsor they don't promote

[GibbytheHibby2]

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The whole “what if he made contact” comments are nonsense (to a certain degree). 9/10 the difference is that ones a foul and ones not, that’s how you differentiate it.

Whilst I agree with your sentiment, that part’s not quite right. If I aim a punch at you on the field and miss, it’s still violent conduct and deserves a red card. Same with tackles, it’s the intent or the reckless nature that can determine a red, not the outcome.

Gerrard’s definitely a **** though 😉

[brog]

Like others I doubt it will be overturned but at least we're not lying down and allowing them to run their foul narrative without challenge. It may also allow the activities of some Rangers' players to come under the spotlight. Maybe also Richard Foster could be investigated for saying an off the ball assault by Morelos was 'smart play'.

[Peevemor]

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Like others I doubt it will be overturned but at least we're not lying down and allowing them to run their foul narrative without challenge. It may also allow the activities of some Rangers' players to come under the spotlight. Maybe also Richard Foster could be investigated for saying an off the ball assault by Morelos was 'smart play'.

If it's not overturned then surely that will support their "narrative"?

If any other incidents are to be looked at it will be announced. If not then it'll just be Porto's challenge and that's all.

[Victor]

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Be nice to see Hibs bring this little clip up and ask why Lundstrum doesn't see Red there

https://twitter.com/ScottyHibs/statu...88120429178880

First time I have seen this, it is a shocker. He turns his back and launches with both feet, he has no idea what he is going to hit and is fortunate he gets the ball. If Porteous was a red card, then so was this.


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[007]

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Why are we letting Barosic away with his misdemeanour?

Yes, him too. Tried to break Boyle's jaw then faked an injury. Plus 2 other yellow card offenses. He should have had 3 yellows.

[matty_f]

Gerrard should be pulled up for his comments about Porto, what an utter welt.

[Gmack7]

I don't think JR'S comments after the game will help our appeal

[BegbieHSC]

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Gerrard should be pulled up for his comments about Porto, what an utter welt.

Gerrard should be charged for bringing the game into disrepute!

His repeated targeting and obsession with a young 22 yo lad from Dalkieth is both weird and disgraceful.

[tamig]

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Good to learn this.

Hope Ron get's right behind this and has the services of some good legal minds.

I have no knowledge of the law but should Hibs win the case, could the following happen?

1 We go after the football authorities for damages.
2 We go after the referee for damages
(above based on Liability)

3 And kept the best for last

Could Gerrard face a court action for defamation of character against Ryan Porteous ?

All sounds very hertzish. We won’t entertain such nonsense.

[Is It On....]

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Glad we are challenging this. Well done Hibs.

Worst case is that it lays down a marker for the future...

[SerenityGreen]

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First time I have seen this, it is a shocker. He turns his back and launches with both feet, he has no idea what he is going to hit and is fortunate he gets the ball. If Porteous was a red card, then so was this.


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WOW. My first viewing of this incident as well and it's a two footed lunge with both feet off the ground. All the ingredients that merit a red card. Dangerous and reckless.

[green day]

I think this thread shows a few things -

(1) Some football fans dont know how the appeal system works
(2) Some football fans dont know how the compliance officer is called into action

However, there is one thing on which we can all agree


(3) Gerrard is and always has been a wee ****

[04Sauzee]

If we loose the appeal does Porteous get a further 1 match suspension? Or is it still the 1 game he gets?