Nisbet - Potential new contract

***Jim44*** · 29-09-2021 11:35 AM

An announcement about a contract extension in the next couple of days would be a nice wee feel-good boost for Sunday’s game.

**Coco Bryce** · 29-09-2021 11:51 AM

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An announcement about a contract extension in the next couple of days would be a nice wee feel-good boost for Sunday’s game.

Porto as well hopefully. Club been trying to tie him up longer as well with no joy yet.

Probably due to some release clause in his contract or something?

**Coco Bryce** · 29-09-2021 11:58 AM

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Hibs don't have to release him if he's not fit. If he was carrying an injury then I doubt Hibs would have let him go. If he couldn't train because he was unwell but has since recovered then there'd no reason to stop him - quite the opposite in fact.

I agree 100%

If he is fit, you obviously want him playing and getting himself and Hibs for that matter the recognition.

***easty*** · 29-09-2021 11:58 AM

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I was only referencing Scottish players as the original point (I think) related to the call up for national squad.

You’re surely not suggesting that Cummings, Spittal or Brophey should be ahead of him for a call up to the Scotland squad?

**CMurdoch** · 29-09-2021 12:06 PM

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Porteous has been good, but has he been any better than before? He's always been pretty good with the odd howler thrown in.

He didn't cover himself in glory at St Mirren's first. I thought he looked a bit daft at the Dundee United goal. Then he was brilliant at the weekend.

Has he done enough to make Clarke change his mind? I'm not sure, but I've not seen any of the other CB's play to compare.

Porteous should certainly be part of the discussion but he's still a bit short of "no brainer" territory for me.

If he were to get a run for Scotland it could go one of two ways - he'd either look like he'd been playing at that level all his life and cement his place for the next few years or he'd make one of his howlers in his first appearance and never be seen on that stage again.

Agree with most of that especially the last sentence.
He is getting closer given Gallagher looks to have been jettisoned.
The 4 CH's picked for the squad are 2 EPL captains, a top Belgian club CH and an English Championship CH.
McKenna's coat probably on a short nail but Porteous probably still a step behind him along with Soutter.
Their time will come.

As for Nisbet he has been struggling with noone playing close to him. Getting picked for Scotland will be a boost for him and will help with any self doubt he is feeling. Won't play against Israel but should get on against the Faroes and hopefully get a goal..

**CMurdoch** · 29-09-2021 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by Coco Bryce

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Porto as well hopefully. Club been trying to tie him up longer as well with no joy yet.

Probably due to some release clause in his contract or something?

Porteous is the player they need a new contract for. Only 20 months left. Nisbet is contracted until 2024.

***green day*** · 29-09-2021 12:15 PM

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Nisbet has a record of 1 in 3 this calendar year. That followed him being probably about 1 goal every 2 games from August to December last year.
It's hardly awful form.

I've definitely found some of his performances frustrating recently but some of the reaction is way OTT.

Going away with the Scotland squad might help him improve his fitness and keep him motivated to stay in. Can't be a bad thing that he's included IMO - he's not injured as such.

I think his record is 10 goals in 39 matches this calendar year.

***green day*** · 29-09-2021 12:16 PM

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You’re surely not suggesting that Cummings, Spittal or Brophey should be ahead of him for a call up to the Scotland squad?

No, I was comparing their strike rates.

But you would have known that if you read my post.......

***green day*** · 29-09-2021 12:17 PM

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Porteous is the player they need a new contract for. Only 20 months left. Nisbet is contracted until 2024.

Porto and Doidge imo.

**Coco Bryce** · 29-09-2021 12:23 PM

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Porteous is the player they need a new contract for. Only 20 months left. Nisbet is contracted until 2024.

It was Porto I was referring to.

**CMurdoch** · 29-09-2021 12:32 PM

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You’re surely not suggesting that Cummings, Spittal or Brophey should be ahead of him for a call up to the Scotland squad?

The truth is there are no Scottish strikers playing in Scotland close to Nisbet at the moment.
Of the guys down south:
McBurnie is on the championship bench. His fellow Sheffield Utd player Burke is I presume injured.
Phillips is playing well for WBA in the Championship.
Also at WBA is Karlan Grant who is another possible as he has a Scottish mother. Aged 24 and signed a year ago from Huddersfield for a reported £15 million.

***allezsauzee*** · 29-09-2021 12:36 PM

While I think Nisbet has playing well enough, I think his game benefits hugely from big Doidge playing alongside. Which demonstrates how big a player Doidge is for us. I'd be delighted if we had the pair of them along with Boyler up front for us for a few more seasons. I agree with the posters who say that Porto should be a priority. He's still prone to be headstrong at times but I think his mistakes tend to get blown out of proportion while few notice while he's being his usual immense presence at the back. I still think he'll be top drawer by the time he's in his mid twenties if he stays clear of injury.

***worcesterhibby*** · 29-09-2021 01:15 PM

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The truth is there are no Scottish strikers playing in Scotland close to Nisbet at the moment.
Of the guys down south:
McBurnie is on the championship bench. His fellow Sheffield Utd player Burke is I presume injured.
Phillips is playing well for WBA in the Championship.
Also at WBA is Karlan Grant who is another possible as he has a Scottish mother. Aged 24 and signed a year ago from Huddersfield for a reported £15 million.

I'd definitely be calling up Phillips and asking Grant if he wanted to play for Scotland. We are a good team until the final third at the moment and both are quality players who may well improve the Scotland squad.

***J-C*** · 29-09-2021 01:29 PM

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Have we been winning those games? Strikers dont just score goals.....especially when we only play 1 up top.

Salah is a winger and is a wonderful goal scorer, when you play 433/4231 the goals come from the 3 or 4 attacking players, very few teams play with an out and out striker. The front 3 do a lot more than just score.

***Winston Ingram*** · 29-09-2021 09:14 PM

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The truth is there are no Scottish strikers playing in Scotland close to Nisbet at the moment.
Of the guys down south:
McBurnie is on the championship bench. His fellow Sheffield Utd player Burke is I presume injured.
Phillips is playing well for WBA in the Championship.
Also at WBA is Karlan Grant who is another possible as he has a Scottish mother. Aged 24 and signed a year ago from Huddersfield for a reported £15 million.

Burke isn’t injured. Just not being picked. Phillips doesn’t want to play for Scotland and is no longer being considered. The only other alternative was Shankland who got replaced by Nisbet in the squad as a result of a poor season last season.

Only alternative is Tony Watt. If he carries on as he is now and Nisbet does likewise, I can see him replacing Nisbet in the squad.

**Smartie** · 29-09-2021 09:17 PM

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Burke isn’t injured. Just not being picked. Phillips doesn’t want to play for Scotland and is no longer being considered. The only other alternative was Shankland who got replaced by Nisbet in the squad as a result of a poor season last season.

Only alternative is Tony Watt. If he carries on as he is now and Nisbet does likewise, I can see him replacing Nisbet in the squad.

Has Phillips ever said he didn't want to play for Scotland?

That's a new one to me.

Either way, we're very light indeed up front, arguably lighter than ever.

**angus hibby** · 29-09-2021 09:19 PM

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Burke isn’t injured. Just not being picked. Phillips doesn’t want to play for Scotland and is no longer being considered. The only other alternative was Shankland who got replaced by Nisbet in the squad as a result of a poor season last season.

Only alternative is Tony Watt. If he carries on as he is now and Nisbet does likewise, I can see him replacing Nisbet in the squad.

Ross Stewart banging in goals for Sunderland who are flying at moment.

**CMurdoch** · 29-09-2021 10:46 PM

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Burke isn’t injured. Just not being picked. Phillips doesn’t want to play for Scotland and is no longer being considered. The only other alternative was Shankland who got replaced by Nisbet in the squad as a result of a poor season last season.

Only alternative is Tony Watt. If he carries on as he is now and Nisbet does likewise, I can see him replacing Nisbet in the squad.

I see Burke is no longer in Sheff. Utd plans and they were in talks with Middlesboro late in the transfer window but obviously couldn't come to an agreement.
Re Phillips, not wanting to play for Scotland is news to me. Big, strong and playing well for the top Championship club. 30 years old with 16 caps but don't think he will get a look in from Clarke. Was about at the start of the Clarke reign when we got a few painful shoeing's from Belgium and Russia.
Shankland is as slow as Nisbet so he won't get in
Tony Watt is a good shout. Has played well for over a season now. Putting in the effort week in week out now. Pleased for the guy as he really was considered a figure of fun. Still has a bit to go to get considered for Scotland.

**CMurdoch** · 29-09-2021 10:48 PM

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Ross Stewart banging in goals for Sunderland who are flying at moment.

A good shout but plays in a pub league for a big fish.
Could well be a shout next season if he is playing in the Championship

***Winston Ingram*** · 30-09-2021 05:37 AM

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Has Phillips ever said he didn't want to play for Scotland?

That's a new one to me.

Either way, we're very light indeed up front, arguably lighter than ever.

I’m not sure but it’s taken as red on the TA message board. Same with Tom Cairney.

***Brightside*** · 30-09-2021 06:19 AM

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I see Burke is no longer in Sheff. Utd plans and they were in talks with Middlesboro late in the transfer window but obviously couldn't come to an agreement.
Re Phillips, not wanting to play for Scotland is news to me. Big, strong and playing well for the top Championship club. 30 years old with 16 caps but don't think he will get a look in from Clarke. Was about at the start of the Clarke reign when we got a few painful shoeing's from Belgium and Russia.
Shankland is as slow as Nisbet so he won't get in
Tony Watt is a good shout. Has played well for over a season now. Putting in the effort week in week out now. Pleased for the guy as he really was considered a figure of fun. Still has a bit to go to get considered for Scotland.

Nisbet is now slow?? I’m starting to wonder why we bought this lad. Slow, lazy, poor attitude. What next? A hearts ST holder.

**Tyler Durden** · 30-09-2021 09:21 AM

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I think his record is 10 goals in 39 matches this calendar year.

I was working to games he's started. Hasn't started more than 30 games

**CMurdoch** · 30-09-2021 09:55 AM

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Nisbet is now slow?? I’m starting to wonder why we bought this lad. Slow, lazy, poor attitude. What next? A hearts ST holder.

The lazy and bad attitude comments by folk are unjustified and baseless.
All I am saying is that he does not have the pace to run away from defenders.
He is powerful with good feet but he is not quick.

**Since452** · 30-09-2021 09:58 AM

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Burke isn’t injured. Just not being picked. Phillips doesn’t want to play for Scotland and is no longer being considered. The only other alternative was Shankland who got replaced by Nisbet in the squad as a result of a poor season last season.

Only alternative is Tony Watt. If he carries on as he is now and Nisbet does likewise, I can see him replacing Nisbet in the squad.

Wonder how Shankland is getting on over in Belgium?

***Craig_HFC*** · 30-09-2021 10:01 AM

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Wonder how Shankland is getting on over in Belgium?

His team, Beerschot, are bottom of the league with 0 wins.

He's played 3 times and scored 0 according to wiki.

***Winston Ingram*** · 30-09-2021 12:14 PM

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Wonder how Shankland is getting on over in Belgium?

Been involved in 5 games, started 0 scored 0

**Coco Bryce** · 30-09-2021 12:18 PM

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Wonder how Shankland is getting on over in Belgium?

He's died on his arse and spiralling into oblivion.

**~~Peevemor~~** · 30-09-2021 01:00 PM

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Remember, like Nisbet, he can still be doing work for his team despite those numbers.

You can't help yourself can you?

And for what it's worth his team are bottom of the league with 1 point from 9 matches and a -15 goal difference.

Nisbet & Hibs are doing slightly better.