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[Keith_M]

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In the period you mention, Spanish clubs have won it 8 times, English 5 times.

Not sure the point you are trying to make.

They're also in much greater debt than any English Club, so it's a pretty bad comparison.

[Onceinawhile]

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They're also in much greater debt than any English Club, so it's a pretty bad comparison.

Man u and Chelsea both have pretty big debts I think?

Or did abramovich write it off?

[BegbieHSC]

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They're also in much greater debt than any English Club, so it's a pretty bad comparison.

Bayern? They’re in no debt whatsoever, so no, it’s not a bad comparison. I’ve got no idea where you got that idea from.

https://showsport.me/football/bayern-borussia-psg-bundesliga-1542321


How could they be if they’ve turned a profit every year for the past 18 years? They briefly had stadium debt for the Allianz Arena, which they paid off 16 years early.

My point is you can be successful if you’re responsible, play within the rules and not risk the future of your club.

Bayern are one club - not multiple, so you can’t compare the success of Bayern against entire leagues 😂.

[BegbieHSC]

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Bayern have the pick of the whole nation in terms of players, English clubs actually have to compete with eachother. That is a big money saver for Bayern. If a good player wants to stay in germany, there is only 1 team. In English, they can chose from at least 6.

Interestingly, Dortmund and Gladbach sign significantly more players from fellow Bundesliga clubs than Bayern do. Their problem is they sell too cheaply abroad. The Bundesliga is actually a really competitive league, and a much better watch than the EPL. The Bundesliga 2 is really strong at the moment as well, with big clubs like Bremen, Schalke, Hannover and Hamburg fighting it out.

Bayern are just the freaks and several steps above the other big clubs.

Dortmund have real potential - they have the highest attendance in the league, but they have a massive inferiority complex to Bayern. Reckon either them, Gladbach or Leipzig will put in a challenge in the not too distant future though.

[BegbieHSC]

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In the period you mention, Spanish clubs have won it 8 times, English 5 times.

Not sure the point you are trying to make.

Bayern are one club, not an entire league.

They’re also the only team in that period to have won multiple Champions leagues, and not be in significant debt. In fact - they have no debt whatsoever. Every single Spanish/English Club to have won it in that period are in mountains of debt, and you can see clearly why they were so in to the ‘Super League.’

My point is, if you’re fiscally responsible, well run and ambitious you can be successful, without financial doping, and risking the future of your club, as English sides have done, and indeed Barcelona too.