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    Doig, backpost

    He’s got to be coached to defend it.

    Doig that is.

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    That was Scott Allan. 100%

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    I'd wonder why McGinn was left 2v1 again and again. Easy to defend a back post if you stop the cross

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    I'd wonder why McGinn was left 2v1 again and again. Easy to defend a back post if you stop the cross
    McGinn stood and watched the boy cross it. No attempt to do anything.

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    McGinn stood and watched the boy cross it. No attempt to do anything.
    The boy was like 10 yards away from McGinn because McGinn had had to come inside. Sorry but if a full back is 2v1 he's basically ****ed already. Boyle MIA

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    The boy was like 10 yards away from McGinn because McGinn had had to come inside. Sorry but if a full back is 2v1 he's basically ****ed already. Boyle MIA
    He wasn’t two on one at that one from my recollection. He was in so much space because full back made no attempt to get out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    The boy was like 10 yards away from McGinn because McGinn had had to come inside. Sorry but if a full back is 2v1 he's basically ****ed already. Boyle MIA

    Just watched the goal back several times. Blaming Boyle is quite frankly an astonishing take on the situation.

    McGinn isn't 2 on 1, and he doesn't come inside to track a man - he moves inside slightly ( as he should) because the ball is played centrally.

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    That was Scott Allan. 100%
    On what planet 😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Oagwibble View Post
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    On what planet
    Earth?

    I think (although I obviouosy couldn't hear the shout) that Scott passed him onto Josh

    But it was Just as the cross was coming over

    Allan follows the man in he atkeast makes it awkward for him, last min of the game its obvious where the cross was going to

    Why does Scott feel the need to stop and pass him on? Was another St mirren player free?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callum_62 View Post
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    Earth?

    I think (although I obviouosy couldn't hear the shout) that Scott passed him onto Josh

    But it was Just as the cross was coming over

    Allan follows the man in he atkeast makes it awkward for him, last min of the game its obvious where the cross was going to

    Why does Scott feel the need to stop and pass him in? Was another St mirren player free?

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    Maybe he thought a 6ft+ defender would be better suited to deal with another 6ft+ defender ?

    Not wanting to be too harsh on Doig, he’s clearly still learning but he needs to be more alert to danger and cover for teammates, even if they have passed on a man that they probably shouldn’t have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffers View Post
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    Maybe he thought a 6ft+ defender would be better suited to deal with another 6ft+ defender ?

    Not wanting to be too harsh on Doig, he’s clearly still learning but he needs to be more alert to danger and cover for teammates, even if they have passed on a man that they probably shouldn’t have.
    But why not just follow him in and atkeast attempt to defend it?

    Mightve been a mismatch but he gave him a free run putting Doig is a very very tricky position

    Was there another player Allan was going to or did he just give up defending?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Oagwibble View Post
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    On what planet 😂
    Watch it again and come back to me. Everyone sitting with me saw the goal coming. He tugged on his man, then let him go. It cannot be any clearer.

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    Watch it again and come back to me. Everyone sitting with me saw the goal coming. He tugged on his man, then let him go. It cannot be any clearer.
    On what version of this planet is that his man? He's clearly passed him onto more able aerial defenders and intends to pick up the man on the edge, who is free. Doig and nobody else.. again.
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    Still waiting on our 7 ft tall goalie to come out and take a contested cross inside the 6 yard box as well. We deserved what we got today. If we gave any ambition to be up the top constantly we should be playing these games out not wasting time and hanging on for a 2.1 against St mirror at home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helensburghhibs View Post
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    Still waiting on our 7 ft tall goalie to come out and take a contested cross inside the 6 yard box as well. We deserved what we got today. If we gave any ambition to be up the top constantly we should be playing these games out not wasting time and hanging on for a 2.1 against St mirror at home.
    He seems to be getting taller by the hour, though someone called him 8ft tall on the match thread, by midnight he will be over 13ft tall 🤣

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    Will we learn from this? Will we f×××! Same old same old.
    What do we do in training?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockholmHibs View Post
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    Will we learn from this? Will we f×××! Same old same old.
    What do we do in training?
    I'd like to know once and for all what our goalkeepers are taught. Come for crosses or leave them to the defenders. Both Rocky and Macey exactly the same.

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    I'd love to see them on the training pitch and see what they're doing re stopping goals like this, happening all too often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bangkok Hibby View Post
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    I'd like to know once and for all what our goalkeepers are taught. Come for crosses or leave them to the defenders. Both Rocky and Macey exactly the same.
    Same here. I grew up seeing keepers come for everything near te 6yd box - especially tall ones. Then you had some who'd stay on their line and stop shots, leaving the defenders to deal with crosses.

    I don't know what modern keepers, especially ours, are meant to do in these situations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bangkok Hibby View Post
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    I'd like to know once and for all what our goalkeepers are taught. Come for crosses or leave them to the defenders. Both Rocky and Macey exactly the same.
    Well, Samson was one of the worst top flight keeper’s there’s ever been in Scotland.
    Macey was dreadful today. Not the only one though.

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    Well, Samson was one of the worst top flight keeper’s there’s ever been in Scotland.
    Macey was dreadful today. Not the only one though.
    Have to agree with the first bit. He also seems to have too much input into the overall team instructions for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helensburghhibs View Post
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    Have to agree with the first bit. He also seems to have too much input into the overall team instructions for me.
    He wears the ear piece, he’s passing down positional instructions from the eye in the stand.

    Saw him screaming at Magennis (i think) when Doig was left with 2 at the back post for the second set piece in a row

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    Quote Originally Posted by number9dream View Post
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    Well, Samson was one of the worst top flight keeper’s there’s ever been in Scotland.
    Macey was dreadful today. Not the only one though.
    Was he? Thought he was always pretty steady without being spectacular for the teams he played for

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    Quote Originally Posted by SChibs View Post
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    Was he? Thought he was always pretty steady without being spectacular for the teams he played for
    That's how I remember him too, but we can't be having any gray areas on here. Extremes only.

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    Goal was coming. We didnt really have a midfield during the last 10mins or so. Back 5 with 3 players pretty much sitting on top of them and a terrible 2 for defensive work rate left further up (Nisbet and Allan have poor defensive workrates, really miss Doidge).

    St Mirren could get 10-15yards into our half before they were closed down. We always lose goals at critical point in games when this happens. Goes as far back as I can remember.

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    Would like to see it again, but whoever was at fault today we keep
    losing the same type of goal - cross from the right badly defended by the left side of our defence.

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    So far it's Doigs fault, McGinns fault, Allans fault n the goalie's fault!

    How about we accept the team never a) held onto the lead or b) scored a third to put it behind reach and give the finger pointing a rest eh

    We got what we deserved today which was 1 point

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    So far it's Doigs fault, McGinns fault, Allans fault n the goalie's fault!

    How about we accept the team never a) held onto the lead or b) scored a third to put it behind reach and give the finger pointing a rest eh

    We got what we deserved today which was 1 point
    If Petrie hasn't been blamed yet I'll throw him in the mix.

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    If Petrie hasn't been blamed yet I'll throw him in the mix.
    I blame the tv screens players probably spent half the time looking at themselves on it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeard View Post
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    If Petrie hasn't been blamed yet I'll throw him in the mix.
    You forgot Graham Mathie as well. Pity he can’t play centre half

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