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Thread: Graeme Mathie Away?
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16-09-2021 09:21 PM #151
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16-09-2021 09:36 PM #152
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16-09-2021 09:38 PM #153This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
It remains to be seen what the failure to add the required attacking depth to the squad might cost us.
I'm far from convinced axing Mathie is the answer as he has a decent amount of credit in the bank with us, but if Ron Gordon is serious about kicking us on a level, he might not be in the mood to accept any sort of perceived failures - and the failure to provide Jack Ross with the squad he needs is certainly a failure, even if he's done fairly well so far with what he's got domestically so far this season.
I don't buy that "European success" is a pipe dream. It's a massive opportunity to bring serious levels of income into the club (see what it has done for Rangers) and we already have the core of a really good squad who should be capable of reaching some sort of group stage. I'd be delighted if Ron Gordon was absolutely serious about the opportunity that lies there.Last edited by Smartie; 16-09-2021 at 09:43 PM.
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16-09-2021 09:47 PM #154
I find these threads infuriating. No one on here has got a clue what happened on transfer deadline day, but some will use speculation to twist things to suit their agenda. We have some quoting stories in the papers to back up their views, but in the past they’d rubbish the same sources because “it’s the sun” I’ve not got a clue if our transfer window went to plan or not, but the fact that we’ve not tried to sign one of the many out of contract players on a short term deal suggests the manager is relatively happy with what he’s got.
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16-09-2021 09:52 PM #155
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Now Ron wants him out and we don't know why or who will replace him. And the same fans are now perfectly happy with that?
What if Ross is the next one to go in order to take us to the next level?
I like Ron btw.Last edited by neil7908; 16-09-2021 at 09:57 PM.
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16-09-2021 09:53 PM #156This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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16-09-2021 09:56 PM #157This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Do you seriously think though, that Jack Ross was happy going into the games with Rijeka and Hearts with what he had on the bench to change the game? His job and reputation are on the line and whilst he's probably got enough to beat most of the weaker teams in our league, he's on a bit of a hiding to nothing if certain events transpire during these games. It didn't happen against Hearts and we got a result there, it did against Rijeka and we suffered.
I doubt Jack Ross is happy about that situation at all.
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16-09-2021 10:11 PM #158This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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16-09-2021 10:11 PM #159This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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16-09-2021 10:12 PM #160
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16-09-2021 10:30 PM #161This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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16-09-2021 10:38 PM #162
If the lack of transfer in activity was down to GM then he had carte blache on fee and wages - really?
I'm also struggling to understand why not getting a £5M fee for Doig is where the buck stops. That had to come from much higher up.
If he cocked up on the last day fair do's but not getting targets over the line in previous windows has to involve the manager and the Chair\CEO. Either we were not offering enough or we were nof prepared to sacrifice existing players.
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16-09-2021 10:41 PM #163
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16-09-2021 10:43 PM #164This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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16-09-2021 10:48 PM #165
I don’t believe there was a positive working relationship between Ross and Mathie and clearly with an extended contract Ron is backing the manager
I don’t think the issue with Mathie has been so much the calibre of players that have been brought in, rather the players we failed to land and the resulting imbalance in the first team squad
The final straw probably being the rather shambolic last few days of the transfer window.
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16-09-2021 10:56 PM #166This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
The number of sponsorship deals we are doing right now is clearly designed to boost the budget, so maybe next year we'll be in a stronger position to progress.
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16-09-2021 11:07 PM #167
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16-09-2021 11:16 PM #169
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Imagine the day we can have a top class striker just sitting on the bench of the off chance.
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16-09-2021 11:19 PM #170
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Griffiths off the bench at Tynecastle would have been an unreal option to have.
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16-09-2021 11:36 PM #171
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16-09-2021 11:47 PM #172
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While others have offered their particular reason for this change, could it be just one of several we will see in the next few months?
When any new CEO takes up the post, generally the first thing s/he does is look at the organisation and has a restructure of some sort.
Is it just a coincidence that this news comes through just after the appointment of a new CEO?
On a personal note I exchanged emails with Graham a few times, and I found him to be both polite and professional.
If you are reading this Graham thanks for your efforts in the past, and good luck for the future.
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16-09-2021 11:54 PM #173This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteFollow the Hibs podcast, Longbangers, on Twitter (@longbangers)
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17-09-2021 12:01 AM #174This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Just someone of sufficient ability that the manager can trust him to do a job.
Ross appears to go out of his way not to use certain players within our first team squad and that impacts on his ability to control a game.
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17-09-2021 12:07 AM #175This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I am a big fan of Mathie’s, I’ve spoken to him at length before and exchanged messages with him and he’s always been first class, coming across as very competent, knowledgable, enthusiastic etc and I had no desire to see him move on from the club whatsoever. I trusted him and believed in what he was doing.
I can also see the progress the club is making and accept, as part of that progress, that change is a necessary evil and so the question i ask myself when considering whether or not to be worried about this change, is “what evidence do I have that I should be worried versus the evidence i have to be confident that the change is needed?” and I think if you look at what the club is producing now compared to pre-Ron Gordon then i think there’s far more reassuring evidence than troublesome.
I hope we keep Jack Ross for a long time, a) because i think he’s a talented and impressive manager, and b) because if he’s here a long time it’s because we’re doing well.
If it ceases to be the case that the manager is meeting expectations then, as is normal in football, I’d expect we’d change manager at some point.Follow the Hibs podcast, Longbangers, on Twitter (@longbangers)
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17-09-2021 01:30 AM #176
I like GM a lot. I've been lucky enough to speak to him several times and he's a knowledgeable, interesting and passionate guy. I'm sad to see him go both on a personal level because it's not nice to see anyone lose their job (if that is indeed what has happened) and as a fan because I think he has done a good job for the most part.
Something has instigated the move though. Be that 1 particular thing or a culmination of several smaller things. I did sense a growing frustration from the manager as the transfer window dragged on, it was something I hadn't seen before from him as he became quite vocal about his needs and his concerns meeting those needs hadn't happened. Of course Jack Ross understands the constraints Hibs work under and he knows why deals don't happen but there was evident frustration all the same. I didn't completely buy the narrative we were totally delighted with our transfer dealings in the summer albeit there was no immediate need to make panic free agent signings for the sake of it either.
I don't suppose we will ever truly know the reason for this decision albeit plenty rumour and bull**** will stick. I'm not massively concerned though. Whether we like it or not Hibs are a corporate environment now and have been for some time and in such environments key people move on and are replaced all the time. As I said earlier in the thread there is risk involved but there is also opportunity.PM Awards General Poster of The Year 2015, 2016, 2017. Probably robbed in other years
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17-09-2021 03:54 AM #177
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At least Rod knew the value of keeping good people at the club.
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17-09-2021 05:11 AM #180
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