Graeme Mathie Away?

[jacomo]

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Some folk have got themselves in a real lather about this, me I'll wait for forth coming Statement.

Possibly - and I don’t say this lightly - one of the most preposterous threads in recent times.

I’m surprised an argument hasn’t broken out over the definition of the word ‘of’ yet. Can only be a matter of time as we seem to have chased down every other rabbit hole.

[HibbyKeith]

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That role would be have Negotiator in the title, not Recruitment, so the actual role at Hibs must be broader.

And how many contracts do we negotiate each year? It won't be enough to require a full time Negotiator.

I'm pretty sure I read that Ben Kensell would be handling the contract talks with players so it's quite possible that Ian Gordon won't have that responsibility in his role going forward and Is there to manage the recruitment team and make contact with potential targets.

Like everyone else I'm just submising but could it be that the recruitment department identify players for positions at the managers request, they present this to their superior Ian Gorgon who in turn after identifying what player(s) Jack Ross likes the look off makes initial contact with the players and turns on the charm to sell the club to said players. When contract time comes there is no middle man for agents to deal with they speak directly to the CEO and deals are either concluded or not.

All seems fairly straight forward in my head anyway. We'll wait and see how it materialises. We've signed some cracking players over the last few years but also some dross too. Nobody will get the recruitment right 100% of the time so I'm pretty relaxed and happy to sit tight and let the club do their stuff. I don't think anything is done without a great deal of thought and intention of success from RG.





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I’ve skipped about 30 pages or so of this thread as it appeared to take off over a couple of days.

I don’t know what credentials Ian Gordon has but I find it quite amusing some using the fact he got us Muller as a big catch when we don’t even know if he’s any good yet 😅

Could it be as simple as Ron wants someone at the club 24/7 that he trusts explicitly and will get things done, someone who Ross also has a strong relationship with?

I also don’t know the main difference in roles between for example Kensell and Mathie? Surely there’s quite a bit of an overlap.

Especially when you consider they will both have teams of people doing the daily work for them.

Maybe Kensell will just take more ownership and control of everything.

[04Sauzee]

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I’ve skipped about 30 pages or so of this thread as it appeared to take off over a couple of days.

I don’t know what credentials Ian Gordon has but I find it quite amusing some using the fact he got us Muller as a big catch when we don’t even know if he’s any good yet 😅

Could it be as simple as Ron wants someone at the club 24/7 that he trusts explicitly and will get things done, someone who Ross also has a strong relationship with?

I also don’t know the main difference in roles between for example Kensell and Mathie? Surely there’s quite a bit of an overlap.

Especially when you consider they will both have teams of people doing the daily work for them.

Maybe Kensell will just take more ownership and control of everything.

Mueller ( hope this isn't going to be a Nisbet /Nesbit scenario 😁) was probably seen as a bit of a catch as most of the media in the US and further afield thought if he was going to Scotland it would be to Celtic or Rangers , he was also linked with a move to Belgium. On paper he looks like a decent signing and by all accounts alot of work went into this signing.

Obviously we don't know how it will turn out but the same can be said for any signing.

[BSEJVT]

Some really interesting responses to the "Head of" angle in this thread.

It doesn't necessarily mean a thing, it's like getting a gold star at school or being made a director of a company, it means nothing.

It can be a purely vanity title to give someone a higher profile or a bit of recognition or dare I say because they are related to the owner.

He could be doing the filing for all we know.

What matters is the role they actually perform.

If we recruited John Park again and called him toilet attendant and he signed the next Ronaldo, would anyone really care about his title?

[MyJo]

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Some really interesting responses to the "Head of" angle in this thread.

It doesn't necessarily mean a thing, it's like getting a gold star at school or being made a director of a company, it means nothing.

It can be a purely vanity title to give someone a higher profile or a bit of recognition or dare I say because they are related to the owner.

He could be doing the filing for all we know.

What matters is the role they actually perform.

If we recruited John Park again and called him toilet attendant and he signed the next Ronaldo, would anyone really care about his title?

in my job the “head of” the department knows very little about the ins and outs of the day job i do and if push came to shove they probably wouldnt be able to do it themselves, but thats because thier job as the “head of” is to manage the higher level functions of the department such as its operating structure, budgets, resource and productivity etc and managing people who in turn deal with thier responsibilities and so on.

In corporate jobs being the head of something doesnt mean your the foremost authority in that specific thing but its likely you will be the one who manages the people that are, and getting them to do what they do and what the business needs from them.

[Keith_M]

I have two questions about this appointment:


Will he now actively be taking a part in scouting new players?

If so, what experience/qualification does he have that makes him a good fit for this role?



No cynicism on my part, I'm genuinely just curious, especially as scouting/recruiting new players is a really important responsibility.

[BSEJVT]

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in my job the “head of” the department knows very little about the ins and outs of the day job i do and if push came to shove they probably wouldnt be able to do it themselves, but thats because thier job as the “head of” is to manage the higher level functions of the department such as its operating structure, budgets, resource and productivity etc and managing people who in turn deal with thier responsibilities and so on.

In corporate jobs being the head of something doesnt mean your the foremost authority in that specific thing but its likely you will be the one who manages the people that are, and getting them to do what they do and what the business needs from them.

Often that this is the case in larger businesses but in privately run businesses there are so many vanity titles that you are never sure if you are dealing with the organ grinder or the monkey, based on titles or where the power and decision making capability lies

[Crab apple]

I assume it’s JR that has had the biggest influence in signings since Hecky left but generally it seems to have been successful and we don’t seem to be signing duds anymore.

[Jim44]

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I have two questions about this appointment:


Will he now actively be taking a part in scouting new players?

If so, what experience/qualification does he have that makes him a good fit for this role?



No cynicism on my part, I'm genuinely just curious, especially as scouting/recruiting new players is a really important responsibility.

First question: No, I don’t think he will. He might obviously be involved with the deployment and co-ordination of others employed to carry out these duties.

Second question: Because of my first answer, I don’t think he personally or necessarily requires the experience/qualification to scout and recruit. Professionalism, efficiency and competence will be among the pre-requisites for the role.

All in my opinion of-course.

Ps - just read MyJo’s post which pretty much falls in line with my thinking.

[Eyrie]

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in my job the “head of” the department knows very little about the ins and outs of the day job i do and if push came to shove they probably wouldnt be able to do it themselves, but thats because thier job as the “head of” is to manage the higher level functions of the department such as its operating structure, budgets, resource and productivity etc and managing people who in turn deal with thier responsibilities and so on.

In corporate jobs being the head of something doesnt mean your the foremost authority in that specific thing but its likely you will be the one who manages the people that are, and getting them to do what they do and what the business needs from them.

I wouldn't think Hibs recruitment department is that large.

[Hibees1973]

My first thought is 'this stinks'.

If it were any other club I would feel it would appear a dictator has come in and soon afterwards key staff at the club, Dempster & Mathie are away. I guess we are Ron's toy now and he can do what he likes.

It will be interesting to hear what Ross says at his press conference in the next few days leading up to the game at the weekend.

Results are all that matters, so will judge Gordon on that, but he has shaken things up.

[ancient hibee]

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First question: No, I don’t think he will. He might obviously be involved with the deployment and co-ordination of others employed to carry out these duties.

Second question: Because of my first answer, I don’t think he personally or necessarily requires the experience/qualification to scout and recruit. Professionalism, efficiency and competence will be among the pre-requisites for the role.

All in my opinion of-course.

Ps - just read MyJo’s post which pretty much falls in line with my thinking.

Two important things needed for this job.
A good contacts book and a short line of communication to whoever holds the purse strings.

[CapitalGreen]

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Just had a look at the club directory and Ian Gordon is now listed as Head of Recruitment.

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/our-club/club-directory

Ian Gordon is no longer listed on the club directory as Head of Recruitment.

[Brightside]

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Ian Gordon is no longer listed on the club directory as Head of Recruitment.

Surely someone didn’t add that by mistake. 😂

[Peevemor]

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Ian Gordon is no longer listed on the club directory as Head of Recruitment.

Now that's ruthlessness!

[bigwheel]

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Ian Gordon is no longer listed on the club directory as Head of Recruitment.

He would have got away with it had it not been for those pesky kids on Hibs.net!

[jacomo]

The Head of Recruitment has been disrecruited?

[greenlex]

Whoever got that wrong will be gone by lunchtime tomorrow.

[Peevemor]

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Whoever got that wrong will be gone by lunchtime tomorrow.

Or he's had his pocket money stopped and Ron's changed his password...

[greenlex]

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Or he's had his pocket money stopped and Ron's changed his password...

😂😂

[Since452]

Yesterday was why he's away. Absolutely toiling with a few key players out.

[BILLYHIBS]

Graeme Mathie appointed Chief Executive at Ayr United Football Club


Daily Record

[Since452]

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Graeme Mathie appointed Chief Executive at Ayr United Football Club


Daily Record

Remember when folk were saying he was going to Celtic.

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EXCLUSIVE! Graeme Mathie to become Ayr United chief executive as former Hibs sporting director joins Honest Men #AUFC | @ScottBurns75

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