Graeme Mathie Away?

**Hibee Mac** · 23-09-2021 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by Peevemor

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To me that says more about these 2 managers influence on recruitment than it does about Mathie.

Well that's just opening up the whole who makes the signings argument.

To me, if you can't hold the head of scouting partly/mostly responsible for a poor transfer window then what's the point in having a head of scouting at all?

That was Mathies role at the time of the relatively poor windows I was talking about so surely is down to him in some way or another. Not just one transfer here or there but by looking at the transfer window as a whole reflects on the head of scouting if you ask me.

**Ozyhibby** · 23-09-2021 10:40 PM

One thing we can take from all this is that RG does not appear to be the type to let a business drift. He is all about expansion. And he demands results. That’s all good for me.

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***Winston Ingram*** · 24-09-2021 06:21 AM

Originally Posted by Brightside

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McGrath was a last minute thing. We had no interest in him prior.

Not true

***Winston Ingram*** · 24-09-2021 06:24 AM

Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs

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Id have brought Efe back, cant believe he's playing for St Johnstone.

Who struggled to hold down a place a Livi last year and ended up getting released?

***JimBHibees*** · 24-09-2021 06:35 AM

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Ok. So how does everyone on here know we had an interest? I’m not aware of Jack or anyone mentioning it. And almost no one on here gets any info from HTC now.

Yes interesting all these people that now knew about the interest that at no time mentioned it previously. Suppose he plays for St Mirren so everyone can assume we were interested

***Brightside*** · 24-09-2021 06:38 AM

Originally Posted by Winston Ingram

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Who struggled to hold down a place a Livi last year and ended up getting released?

I do t think he was being serious tbh.

***blackpoolhibs*** · 24-09-2021 06:39 AM

Originally Posted by dp00

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Same efe who turned up when he wanted when he was here before and didn’t exactly do amazing at livi

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Yip, the same Efe.

***Allant1981*** · 24-09-2021 06:44 AM

Originally Posted by Winston Ingram

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Who struggled to hold down a place a Livi last year and ended up getting released?

He played 28 times last year, hardly struggled for a game

***Brightside*** · 24-09-2021 06:52 AM

We brought in an England youth captain and he isn’t getting a look in. Efe wouldn’t be getting in our team.

***Winston Ingram*** · 24-09-2021 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by Lovethehibs

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He played 28 times last year, hardly struggled for a game

He started 17 league games last year, which is less than half. I think it's safe to say he struggled for a game.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/efe-.../0?saison=2020

***Allant1981*** · 24-09-2021 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by Winston Ingram

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He started 17 league games last year, which is less than half. I think it's safe to say he struggled for a game.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/efe-.../0?saison=2020

Didnt realise that league games are the only ones that get counted now when discussing how many times someone played

***Winston Ingram*** · 24-09-2021 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by Lovethehibs

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Didnt realise that league games are the only ones that get counted now when discussing how many times someone played

We can discuss cup ones if you want. Livi played in 10 cup games in total last season. He was on the bench for 4 and started 6. 4 of which were in the group stage v the mighty Edinburgh City, Alloa, Stenhousemuir and Airdrie.

***Allant1981*** · 24-09-2021 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by Winston Ingram

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We can discuss cup ones if you want. Livi played in 10 cup games in total last season. He was on the bench for 4 and started 6. 4 of which were in the group stage v the mighty Edinburgh City, Alloa, Stenhousemuir and Airdrie.

What a daft response, does it matter who they were playing, we played a lot of 1st team players in previous league cup games

***Winston Ingram*** · 24-09-2021 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by Lovethehibs

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What a daft response, does it matter who they were playing, we played a lot of 1st team players in previous league cup games

What’s daft about it? You complained we were only discussing league games. I showed you he was as much of a squad player in the cups. 🤷🏻*♂️

At the end of the day, he started less than half their league and cup games combined and was then released. I don’t really think you can get a much of clearer demonstration of squad player than that.

**CMurdoch** · 25-09-2021 10:59 AM

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What a daft response, does it matter who they were playing, we played a lot of 1st team players in previous league cup games

It does matter. Teams play their squad players in the early rounds of the Cup.
This was never more evident than last season when Hibs played David Gray in these games but he was never considered for even a sub appearance in a league game.

P.S. Efe was named man of the match last week. If Davidson can get him to train along with everyone else each day he could get back to a good level.

***Allant1981*** · 25-09-2021 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by CMurdoch

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It does matter. Teams play their squad players in the early rounds of the Cup.
This was never more evident than last season when Hibs played David Gray in these games but he was never considered for even a sub appearance in a league game.

We also played doidge, nisbet, stevenson,boyle, hallberg, mcgregor against cove rangers

***w pilton hibby*** · 30-09-2021 08:34 AM

Confirmed on the Official Site

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/articl...arts-hibernian

***bingo70*** · 30-09-2021 08:39 AM

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Confirmed on the Official Site

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/articl...arts-hibernian

All seems very amicable.

That must be why the negotiations took so long 😂

***Hibbyradge*** · 30-09-2021 08:52 AM

Maybe he wasn't sacked and didn't resign?

***J-C*** · 30-09-2021 08:54 AM

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Maybe he wasn't sacked and didn't resign?

That'll never be said, I'd assume he was told recruitment hasn't been good enough and unfortunately these things happen, Graeme's a good bloke and will get another job soon enough.

***MrSmith*** · 30-09-2021 08:59 AM

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That'll never be said, I'd assume he was told recruitment hasn't been good enough and unfortunately these things happen, Graeme's a good bloke and will get another job soon enough.

Queens Park?

**Just_Jimmy** · 30-09-2021 09:00 AM

Thanks and good luck in the future.

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**Wilson** · 30-09-2021 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by Since452

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Absolutely no clue but I wonder if Ross was annoyed that Allan almost got sold from under him? Has Mathie maybe made a monumental James Blunt of it?

Allan wasn't featuring for Jack Ross at the time. Moving on a player Jack Ross doesn't want to play and replacing him with one that fits our model isn't the worst idea. However, i doubt it was happening without his knowledge.

**Since90+2** · 30-09-2021 09:06 AM

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Allan wasn't featuring for Jack Ross at the time. Moving on a player Jack Ross doesn't want to play and replacing him with one that fits our model isn't the worst idea. However, i doubt it was happening without his knowledge.

Yeah I can't see that scenario happening. Ross would be approving anyone going out the door, especially someone quite high profile like Allan.

**Since452** · 30-09-2021 09:06 AM

Originally Posted by MrSmith

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Queens Park?

Good shout

***Callum_62*** · 30-09-2021 10:19 AM

All the best but whos replacing him?

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**CMurdoch** · 30-09-2021 10:49 AM

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All the best but whos replacing him?

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Need a negotiator in before the next window.

**~~Allez Hibs~~** · 30-09-2021 11:03 AM

Mathie away confirmed.

Under Ron, perform or....

https://twitter.com/gmathie82/status...603790851?s=20

***scoopyboy*** · 30-09-2021 11:31 AM

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Allan wasn't featuring for Jack Ross at the time. Moving on a player Jack Ross doesn't want to play and replacing him with one that fits our model isn't the worst idea. However, i doubt it was happening without his knowledge.

You would like to think so but Jamie Gullan was at Killie without him knowing