Graeme Mathie Away?

[Centre Hawf]

Apparently Ron Gordon wants to install a new team instead and Mathie is set to leave.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/spo...x=1631804721-1

[BegbieHSC]

Interesting! Don’t know if our performance on deadline day has anything to do with it, but it’s probably not fair to speculate.

Thanks for everything, Graham, and good luck!!

[Lendo]

Could be a huge blow if that’s true. Having a consistent Sporting/Recruitment director is something that’s set us a part from a lot of other clubs.

[Dunbar Hibee]

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Could be a huge blow if that’s true. Having a consistent Sporting/Recruitment director is something that’s set us a part from a lot of other clubs.

Consistently *****?

[SaulGoodman]

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Consistently *****?

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[Hermit Crab]

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?

Heres a clue, poo.

[SaulGoodman]

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Heres a clue, poo.

That’s not the bit I was confused by.

[HoboHarry]

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Consistently *****?

Open the door to the room and in rolls the empty barrel.....

[loanheadhibby]

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Could be a huge blow if that’s true. Having a consistent Sporting/Recruitment director is something that’s set us a part from a lot of other clubs.

A huge blow? Is that not a bit dramatic?

[Allez Hibs]

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A huge blow? Is that not a bit dramatic?

A huge opportunity for the club more like.

[AugustaHibs]

He messed up signings on deadline day, and if Ron was already considering getting rid then I can imagine that may have been the straw that broke the camels back.

[007]

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He messed up signings on deadline day, and if Ron was already considering getting rid then I can imagine that may have been the straw that broke the camels back.

Would love to know what all the goings on were on deadline day that means Mathie messed up.

[JimBHibees]

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He messed up signings on deadline day, and if Ron was already considering getting rid then I can imagine that may have been the straw that broke the camels back.

Proof. Personally think the recruitment we have had recently has been in the main excellent.

[calumhibee1]

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Proof. Personally think the recruitment we have had recently has been in the main excellent.

I’m not quite sure what proof you expect but it was pretty widely rumoured at the time. Certain folk were given dogs abuse for it and yet here we are 2 weeks later and Mathie is about to be binned.

[Billy Whizz]

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I’m not quite sure what proof you expect but it was pretty widely rumoured at the time. Certain folk were given dogs abuse for it and yet here we are 2 weeks later and Mathie is about to be binned.

If Ross says we’ve been 43 games in the top 4, then the recruitment can’t be all that bad

[calumhibee1]

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If Ross says we’ve been 43 games in the top 4, then the recruitment can’t be all that bad

I don’t disagree with that but the rumour seemed to be that their was some real bad blood because of the failure to get people in at the end of the window so it’s more of a case of an issue in isolation the other week rather than over 43 games.

Maybe Ron is now looking at us being at a much higher risk of failing in the league cup or leaving ourselves with to much to do in the league due to the Mathie “balls up” that was rumoured? Either of those things could cost the club hundreds of thousands if not over a million if we go out of the league cup because we’re short of a striker or if we leave ourselves with to much to do for third so it wouldn’t be beyond the realms of possibility for someone to be binned for it if that’s the way RG is looking at it. I’m not saying he is looking at it that way or that I agree with it btw.

Mathie leaving would certainly give credence to the rumour that went about after deadline day though. He certainly wasn’t flavour of the month at Hibs if the rumour was true.

[JimBHibees]

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I’m not quite sure what proof you expect but it was pretty widely rumoured at the time. Certain folk were given dogs abuse for it and yet here we are 2 weeks later and Mathie is about to be binned.

Something a bit more valid than some random rumour. Who knows he is probably leaving for a better job no idea. Certainly don't think any failure in a transfer can be imo unfairly laid at the door of one person.

[calumhibee1]

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Something a bit more valid than some random rumour. Who knows he is probably leaving for a better job no idea. Certainly don't think any failure in a transfer can be imo unfairly laid at the door of one person.

This place would be awful quiet if the poster of a rumour required a substantial burden of proof.

[calumhibee1]

I’m not sure how much this would have to do with Mathie but I wonder if this is anything to do with our lack of players coming through the youth system? Since he’s come in we’ve only really brought through Porteous with Doig and Cummings coming in really late on in that system having developed elsewhere.

Might be that Ron wants to see someone come in and improve that side of things?

[Since452]

That will please the folk having a go at him over the last few weeks.

All the best if you do go Graeme.

[Smartie]

Overall our recruitment in recent years has been excellent, even if our summer just gone was a bit disappointing.

I’d have expected Mathie to have had to answer a few questions about the summer, maybe his answers were unconvincing?

Again, I think we’re in “careful what you wish for” territory here. Does a bad summer (and one with mitigating factors, such as the non departure of key players) mean that we remodel something that has worked very well for us for a few years?

[JohnM1875]

Not sure what to make of this one really. But if the new appointment is of the same quality (on paper anyway) as the new CEO I'm sure we don't have anything to worry about.

Six/seven years is a long time as well and probably due a change in the role.

[Smartie]

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Not sure what to make of this one really. But if the new appointment is of the same quality (on paper anyway) as the new CEO I'm sure we don't have anything to worry about.

Six/seven years is a long time as well and probably due a change in the role.

Is he not fairly new to this role, having replaced George Craig when he retired?

Mathie was doing something different before.

[JohnM1875]

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Is he not fairly new to this role, having replaced George Craig when he retired?

Mathie was doing something different before.

Very good point actually. Forgot about that.

Think on the whole Graham has done a great job and even if the last deadline day was a bit of a damp squib you'd think he'd have enoigh credit in the bank to continue for a while.

Interesting to see how this develops.

[matty_f]

I’ve a lot of time for Graeme - represented the club well, improved our recruitment no end, brought in an excellent manager, put the player pathways into place etc.

I think the nature of the ambition at the club now means that jobs across the club will be scrutinised and, where someone who is available that’s considered a better option of available, we’ll try to get them.

I think Mathie will rightly have a huge amount to be proud of from his time at the club.

[Stuart93]

Think he’s done a really good job over the years

Wonder if RG’s just looking to get his own man in or if GM’s part in our transfer scramble towards the end of the window has pee’d Ron off

[Hibs90]

He’s obviously done a good job overall I’d say based on our recruitment and the quality of it over the last few years but at times it seemed really slow and ponderous. Over a year to replace Bartley/Milligan, still no 3rd striker and at times an inbalanced squad, no doubt partly down to the managers at the time (Lennon/Hecky). Lack of youth coming through also.

Perhaps out summer window has contributed to this. If he goes then we could certainly do a lot worse and his replacement must be absolutely spot on.

[Smartie]

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He’s obviously done a good job overall I’d say based on our recruitment and the quality of it over the last few years but at times it seemed really slow and ponderous. Over a year to replace Bartley/Milligan, still no 3rd striker and at times an inbalanced squad, no doubt partly down to the managers at the time (Lennon/Hecky). Lack of youth coming through also.

Perhaps out summer window has contributed to this. If he goes then we could certainly do a lot worse and his replacement must be absolutely spot on.

I agree that we’ve occasionally been slow and there has sometimes been an air of “perfect being the enemy of good” about certain situations ie we’ve held out for excellent players and ended up with none, when it was imperative that we got someone in.

Do we believe that the striker/ forward equivalent of Paul McGinn doesn’t exist out there? Are we better off having no middle to front option that Jack Ross requested, rather than someone in their late twenties / early thirties who might provide valuable competition for places for us up front but have no sell-on value?

[wookie70]

Much will depend on who is brought in but I will be sad to see anyone goes that is connected with recruitment at ER. It hasn't been perfect but our hit rate was been very good over the last 7 or so years and far more successes than failure. Apart from teh time with Lennon(which still provided some good signings) we appear to be working to a plan of quality over quantity and sell on opportunity. The squad age is very good as is its sell on value so well done to all involved and good luck to Graham in the future. Seems incredibly unfair to blame Graham for the lack of a striker. He could have put forward a number of names and Ron wouldn't sign the cheque, To me there is plenty evidence to suggest Ron and the recruitment team are doing a good job and hopefully Graham's replacement comes in and takes that to an even higher level.

[Hibs90]

Unless he’s off to Celtic…