Forest sack Hughton

**Smartie** · 16-09-2021 11:35 AM

Forest are a good club with potential.

Obviously a lot depends on owners etc, and it sounds like theirs aren’t great right now.

As “basket case” as clubs like Sunderland and Forest might appear, you’d forgive a manager for wanting to have a bash at bringing success there.

As clubs, they certainly appeal much more to me than the likes of Bournemouth, Wigan etc.

**~~Allez Hibs~~** · 16-09-2021 11:39 AM

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Forest are a good club with potential.

Obviously a lot depends on owners etc, and it sounds like theirs aren’t great right now.

As “basket case” as clubs like Sunderland and Forest might appear, you’d forgive a manager for wanting to have a bash at bringing success there.

As clubs, they certainly appeal much more to me than the likes of Bournemouth, Wigan etc.

Is JR qualified enough for a job like Forest though? He's a couple of seasons away from it provided he gets consistent high finishes and a regular chance of silverware for me. Chris Hughton is a decent manager to be fair.

McInnes is the most successful manager outside the old firm in recent times and he's still out of work.

Has there been a Scottish manager that's went from a Scottish club and been successful recently in that league? Very tough league. The most recent I can think of is Billy Davies and Mowbray.

**FilipinoHibs** · 16-09-2021 11:39 AM

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Dont kid yourself, there were idiots just last season who wanted him sacked. A couple of bad loses and they will be back again.

Even this season!

***Pagan Hibernia*** · 16-09-2021 11:43 AM

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Forest are a good club with potential.

Obviously a lot depends on owners etc, and it sounds like theirs aren’t great right now.

As “basket case” as clubs like Sunderland and Forest might appear, you’d forgive a manager for wanting to have a bash at bringing success there.

As clubs, they certainly appeal much more to me than the likes of Bournemouth, Wigan etc.

absolutely. Forest are a wonderful old club with a romantic history and I really hope they get their act together. If it was good enough for Brian Clough it’s good enough for anyone.

***Billy Whizz*** · 16-09-2021 11:44 AM

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We should just take over st Mirren 😂

Saints fans not overly happy with him just now, got a worse record his season than Stubbs had with them. Hope this continues on Saturday

**~~Allez Hibs~~** · 16-09-2021 11:45 AM

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We should just take over st Mirren 😂

Why???

**Smartie** · 16-09-2021 11:50 AM

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Is JR qualified enough for a job like Forest though? He's a couple of seasons away from it provided he gets consistent high finishes and a regular chance of silverware for me. Chris Hughton is a decent manager to be fair.

McInnes is the most successful manager outside the old firm in recent times and he's still out of work.

Has there been a Scottish manager that's went from a Scottish club and been successful recently in that league? Very tough league. The most recent I can think of is Billy Davies and Mowbray.

Depends on what the criteria are for being qualified enough.

If it’s being a good manager then I’d say he’s qualified.

If it’s juggling bonkers owners, having no money to spend, an expectant fan base on your back and a squad of poor players and trying to make them successful then I suspect he’s as ill-equipped as anyone.

Chris Hughton is a good manager. I guess alarm bells should be ringing when he struggles.

I’d just forgive a manager fancying a crack at it, that’s all, because if he could get it right then they’re a club who you’d expect to be able to move a good bit up from where they are now.

Although the same is true of Sunderland, and that didn’t work out great for him.

***Billy Whizz*** · 16-09-2021 11:52 AM

When were Forest last in the top league in England, seems like a while ago

***Pagan Hibernia*** · 16-09-2021 11:59 AM

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When were Forest last in the top league in England, seems like a while ago

1998-99

**Since452** · 16-09-2021 12:04 PM

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Is JR qualified enough for a job like Forest though? He's a couple of seasons away from it provided he gets consistent high finishes and a regular chance of silverware for me. Chris Hughton is a decent manager to be fair.

McInnes is the most successful manager outside the old firm in recent times and he's still out of work.

Has there been a Scottish manager that's went from a Scottish club and been successful recently in that league? Very tough league. The most recent I can think of is Billy Davies and Mowbray.

He's already managed a bigger club than Forest so i'd imagine so.

**~~Allez Hibs~~** · 16-09-2021 12:07 PM

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He's already managed a bigger club than Forest so i'd imagine so.

Forrest are a bigger club than Sunderland.

Sunderland are like the misnomer with Newcastle being regarded as a big club. They both last had proper success about 50+ years ago. Newcastle haven't been past the League Cup Quarter Finals down there in about 45 years.

They've got the stadiums, but not a lot else. Look at Kilmarnock up here! They give two stands to the old firm when they play them because they have a big stadium.

**~~loanheadhibby~~** · 16-09-2021 12:11 PM

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Dont kid yourself, there were idiots just last season who wanted him sacked. A couple of bad loses and they will be back again.

Deary me......

Forest are a big club, great support and should be challenging at top end of championship.

I wonder if John terry will throw his hat in the ring. You'd expect Wilder, Lampard and Terry may be in with a shout. I cant see them going for McInnes or Jack Ross.

**~~Allez Hibs~~** · 16-09-2021 12:16 PM

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Deary me......

Yes, a bit harsh, Hibs fans all the same at the end of the day.

**scuttle** · 16-09-2021 12:16 PM

Wee sneaky feeling it will be John Terry

***Billy Whizz*** · 16-09-2021 12:19 PM

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1998-99

This is a long long time ago

**Wilson** · 16-09-2021 12:22 PM

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This is a long long time ago

Rubbish. It's happened since hearts last won the league cup.

**Smartie** · 16-09-2021 12:24 PM

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Forrest are a bigger club than Sunderland.

Sunderland are like the misnomer with Newcastle being regarded as a big club. They both last had proper success about 50+ years ago. Newcastle haven't been past the League Cup Quarter Finals down there in about 45 years.

They've got the stadiums, but not a lot else. Look at Kilmarnock up here! They give two stands to the old firm when they play them because they have a big stadium.

Depends on the criteria for being “a big club”.

It wasn’t that long ago that Sunderland were in the top league, and even though they were battling at the wrong end of the table their attendances consistently sat 5th - 7th in the country.

They’re not big in the Man Utd /Liverpool global support sense but when they get a team on the park that’s not utterly pish, they get a decent number of paying customers going along to watch them regularly.

**~~Allez Hibs~~** · 16-09-2021 12:27 PM

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Depends on the criteria for being “a big club”.

It wasn’t that long ago that Sunderland were in the top league, and even though they were battling at the wrong end of the table their attendances consistently sat 5th - 7th in the country.

They’re not big in the Man Utd /Liverpool global support sense but when they get a team on the park that’s not utterly pish, they get a decent number of paying customers going along to watch them regularly.

Forrest have won the European Cup... Twice!
Plenty Cup finals in 80s/90s too.

**~~loanheadhibby~~** · 16-09-2021 01:02 PM

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Forrest have won the European Cup... Twice!
Plenty Cup finals in 80s/90s too.

Forest had a fantastic record back in the day. Always thought of them a bit like Dundee Utd but on a much bigger scales. The old analogy of supermarket vs corner shop.

Forest did it against a supreme Liverpool team as well.

***oneone73*** · 16-09-2021 01:03 PM

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Forest had a fantastic record back in the day. Always thought of them a bit like Dundee Utd but on a much bigger scales. The old analogy of supermarket vs corner shop.

Forest did it against a supreme Liverpool team as well.

Forest won the league once.

***PatHead*** · 16-09-2021 01:05 PM

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We should just take over st Mirren 😂

St. Hibernian?

**Scottie** · 16-09-2021 01:09 PM

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Nobody’s mentioned Eddie Howe recently in connection with managerial vacancies.

Everyone knows he gets a nose bleed anywhere north of Watford.

**~~loanheadhibby~~** · 16-09-2021 01:16 PM

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Forest won the league once.

Yes they were up against the cream of Europe in their own league. Liverpool were dominant around that time. Villa won the European cup in the same period (possibly 82).

I think Forest may have signed the 1st £1 million pound player in Trevor Francis. That signing was apparently to get them closer to Liverpool.

***JimBHibees*** · 16-09-2021 02:02 PM

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Forest won the league once.

And the European cup twice.

**Smartie** · 16-09-2021 02:09 PM

It must be a bit weird to be a Forest fan.

Being the age I am, I know a fair few central belt Aberdeen fans. They’ve had an uneasy transition over time from being a top side who win things to being pish in the grand scheme of things.

It must be mad to go from having the players Forest had, to have Cloughie, to have European cup wins an a league title to getting through a manager a year and hoping your team avoids being relegated to the English third tier.

Whilst Forest are considered “provincial” in some ways, they’re still a big city club imo.

***J-C*** · 16-09-2021 02:31 PM

Ross had experience at Sunderland, so will be wary of club like Nottingham Forest, hopefully enough experience to keep away from them if approached.

***lord bunberry*** · 16-09-2021 02:35 PM

Forest are just like Aberdeen, a team living off past glories while more forward looking clubs leave them in their wake.

**~~JXM73~~** · 16-09-2021 02:41 PM

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Wee sneaky feeling it will be John Terry

Think he's already distancing himself from it, though expect him at the city ground in full kit in time for the six o'clock news.

***Stonewall*** · 16-09-2021 03:18 PM

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Ross had experience at Sunderland, so will be wary of club like Nottingham Forest, hopefully enough experience to keep away from them if approached.

19 managers listed in the last 10 years (although I assume some are caretakers)

That sounds to me like one hell of a risky job to take unless you’re out of work.