Over ten times as many vaccines administered as positive cases detected. Those are pretty impressive figures in support of the vaccine I’d suggest. I don’t think that was your intention though.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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01-09-2021 10:17 PM #181
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01-09-2021 10:18 PM #182This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Excellent post
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01-09-2021 10:22 PM #183
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What is it that medically except folk have, that means they can attend these events without being vaccinated, that normal people don't have?
Do they have superpowers, are they X-Men?, can't they catch or spread covid?
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01-09-2021 10:27 PM #184
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01-09-2021 10:27 PM #185This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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01-09-2021 10:30 PM #186This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
But during lock down symptoms got worse again was seen by nurses at hospital and bloods taken
Got called by Consultant who said we will review you in six months Lost my rag explained my symptoms and he arranged for a wee camera to get put up and have a look inside the bladder
Again after chasing up his secretary she phoned me back with a date fairly quickly
He was then able to see my prostrate was growing into my bladder and I needed a T U R P procedure
I don’t mind sharing this level of detail as it’s important to get the message out there that phone consultations often inhibit some people as they try and close you down so they can phone next patient
Also it’s important to badger the Secretary as they can help get you a cancel appointment which is quicker than waiting
But if they then ain’t doing the operations there is nothing you Or I can do
about that
I have chase up meds as often repeat prescriptions don’t get ordered when you phone in
When you try and physically see a doctor you get fibbed off and it’s phone calls by different doctors no continuity
Patient Care has become secondary to new systems that imo are not for our benefit
Anyway rant over and hope you push and get your scan
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01-09-2021 10:30 PM #187
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Just like the vaccination I want a bit more proof of why the potential restrictions are being proposed. I certainly wouldn't take the Scottish Government's word on it and I voted for both parties. I also think it says much about how society has changed in the last decade or two in terms of our rights. Citizens seem totally fine with essentially an ID card, perhaps pointing to a medical condition, being needed to get into events and having much of their virtual and real life recorded by Government and big business.
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01-09-2021 10:41 PM #188This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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01-09-2021 10:48 PM #189This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I don’t think I’d use the word “lunatic”, but I do think there is a fringe of society who look to go against “the man”. If the government had always advised against vaccine, that fringe would be claiming we should all get it.
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01-09-2021 10:50 PM #190This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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01-09-2021 10:59 PM #192
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01-09-2021 11:03 PM #193
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WHO figures show 10,1248 covid deaths so far today (Wednesday). Maybe it’s time for a reality check for the sceptics
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01-09-2021 11:04 PM #194This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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01-09-2021 11:05 PM #195
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01-09-2021 11:13 PM #196
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https://www.muhealth.org/our-stories...what-they-seem
Scary Reports of Deaths Following COVID-19 Vaccination Aren’t What They Seem
You might have seen the headlines on social media.
“COVID-19 Vaccine-Related Fatalities Exceed 6,000.”
“6,000% Increase in Reported Vaccine Deaths 1st Quarter 2021 Compared to 1st Quarter 2020.”
No matter your vaccination status or your feelings about getting the shot, those headlines likely give you pause. Can those numbers be right?
These and similar shocking claims are the latest examples of COVID-19 vaccine misinformation. And as with most misinformation, these statements get traction because they start with a kernel of truth — in this case raw data from a reputable source.
The data and source
The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) was established in 1990 as a national early warning system to detect potential safety problems with vaccines. It is managed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA).
The system allows anyone who has received a vaccine (not just a COVID-19 vaccine) to report “adverse events” (think side effects) that they experience following vaccination. Health care providers are required to submit reports of events that come to their attention even if the events clearly have no relationship to vaccination.
The system serves to alert federal health authorities to potential safety concerns, but it is not designed to determine if a vaccine caused a particular problem. All reports to the system are unverified.
Since December 2020, more than 350 million doses of COVID-19 vaccine have been administered in the U.S., and VAERS has received 6,968 reports of death (0.0019%), according to the CDC. (Numbers as of Aug. 26, 2021.)
However, that statistic offers no insight into the cause of death for those people. If a 90-year-old nursing home resident got the vaccine and then died days, weeks or even months later of another ailment, the resident’s death would be reported to VAERS.
The misinformation strategy
Opponents of vaccination use the VAERS numbers in statements that suggest cause-and-effect conclusions. This misinformation then influences some people not to be vaccinated.
In this case, the numbers are correct, but the presumed conclusions are not.
Stevan Whitt, MD, an infectious disease doctor and chief clinical officer at MU Health Care, gets questions about these claims regularly, and he wants people to have the right information.
“This intentional misrepresentation is a powerful tactic to sow confusion among large groups of people,” Whitt said.
To address the misinformation about VAERS, the CDC shares context around adverse events associated with the COVID-19 vaccines and emphasizes that reports of deaths (and other adverse events) do not necessarily mean the vaccines are to blame. “A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines,” the CDC notes.
Meanwhile, what we do know for sure is that more than 38 million U.S. residents have been infected and 600,000 have died from COVID-19, and the vaccine is one of the best tools to slow the spread of the virus and save lives.Last edited by 007; 01-09-2021 at 11:16 PM.
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01-09-2021 11:17 PM #198
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Has the government, for citizens within the UK, ever restricted liberty within our countries on the back of someone making a personal and imo private medical decision.
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01-09-2021 11:23 PM #199
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That's very true, that could be through smoking, drinking, skiing, crashing their car, falling off a ladder while painting the ceiling, gang violence, drug abuse, accidental overdose, attempted suicide, where do you draw the line? Bearing in mind in certain situations you'd have to draw that line pretty ****ing quickly!
You may also sit next to someone at ER with Flu at any time in the last hundred years and that kills you.
Again, completely true. Covid seems to be transmissible throughout the year, whereas flu tends to be most prevalent in winter, and you can get a flu jab which lessens the likelihood of catching it, but I don't know anything about asymptomatic transmission once vaccinated.
You could of course sit next to someone who is double vaccinated who passes Covid on to you too.
Yet again, you're not wrong! But the evidence points to a majority of the double vaccinated not catching Covid and being less likely to pass it on if they do.
As for risk and choice, I would choose to be seated beside double vaccinated people to reduce the risk to myself, my family and those around me.
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01-09-2021 11:30 PM #203This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
If you’re 15 and want to buy cigarettes, the government says no.
If you want to drive 100 miles across the country in an hour…the government says no.
The government putting rules in place, for the good of society as a whole, isn’t a new thing.
There are already countries in the world you can’t visit without being vaccinated, for things other than covid.Last edited by easty; 01-09-2021 at 11:33 PM.
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01-09-2021 11:33 PM #204
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"Mr Anti-Vax" dies
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.w...19-battle/amp/Last edited by 007; 02-09-2021 at 12:03 AM.
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01-09-2021 11:34 PM #205This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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01-09-2021 11:42 PM #206This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
*awaits the first one to slaver "powwwwwer" it's all about powerrrr honest
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01-09-2021 11:44 PM #207This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
coincidence, i just put a link up on the covid thread
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