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i thought they have a wee section to themselves
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02-09-2021 06:50 PM #421
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Good we thread of why I don't want any of you unvaccinated in easter road
https://mobile.twitter.com/apsmunro/...49468261322759
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Did you hear vaccinated people with Delta “have just as much virus in their nose so are just as infectious as unvaccinated”?
Turns out vaccinated people have significantly less culturable virus present at the same Ct count
They are LESS INFECTIOUS Collision symbol
https://medrxiv.org/content/10.110
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Add to this the data that vaccinated people also clear the virus much faster Plus it at least halves your chance of getting infected in the first place Being vaccinated doesn’t mean you can’t transmit, but it’s your best bet at protecting the people around you
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02-09-2021 07:25 PM #431
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Lots of those will spend hours in pubs and on public transport before and after the game. I don't think pubs required you to be double vaxxed and they will be steaming and not even remotely social distancing. I think there are no rules on social distancing in pubs but stand to be corrected. I wouldn't be selfish enough to go to a pub during a pandemic of course.
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02-09-2021 07:27 PM #432
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and if you have already had covid from teh same thread
Basically all our infections our delta, and we’ve found reinfections to have significantly higher Ct counts (so lower viral loads) than primary infections tooLast edited by wookie70; 02-09-2021 at 07:29 PM.
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02-09-2021 08:01 PM #433
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https://mobile.twitter.com/PamelaPMartinez/status/1433464752387366917
5 out of 6 fully vaxed who had breakthrough infections remained viral culture negative throughout their enrollment period, suggesting minimal shedding of infectious virus and little to no transmission risk.
The total number of days that vaccinated individuals tested viral culture positive was significantly fewer than both newly vaccinated and unvaccinated groups, indicating that vaccination significantly reduces infectious virus shedding
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02-09-2021 08:10 PM #434
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There are still a sizable chunk who have ignored this, and gone down their own path. I'm not convinced any amount of information and data will make a difference anymore. We need to grudgingly respect their decision, but ensure we reduce their ability to harm others. By preventing them attending large scale events.
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02-09-2021 08:15 PM #435
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02-09-2021 08:33 PM #438
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As said in the post under the OP, that data is not for the Delta variant which is the one the UK mostly and almost exclusively has. Check out how many were actually involved and also that it isn't peer reviewed.
I’m sure it’s been said by others - it’s important to point out that this is not Delta. We are seeing remarkable transmission among fully vaccinated groups. I believe we will find higher transmissibility of Delta in Vax’d than Alpha in unvax’d.Last edited by wookie70; 02-09-2021 at 08:48 PM.
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02-09-2021 08:37 PM #439
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https://vacs.nhs.scot/csp?id=csm_login
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There isn't much difference with delta vaccine still has same protection against severe infection high 90s. More can catch it than delta but still around 60% protection against that and the ones that have been infected have low viral load. Vaccines are amazing get it down you
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02-09-2021 09:06 PM #445
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That study is far from conclusive. Have you read the notes, quite a small study anyways and anomalies such as different variants for those tested. These notes stuck out for me - "further studies are needed to assess whether the decreased137 infectious virus shedding in breakthrough infections also lowers the chance of virus transmission." and "To study the effect of vaccination on infectivity, it would be preferable to compare infections occurring in121 vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals during the same time period, to minimize the impact of different122 SARS-CoV-2 variants. Due to the high vaccine coverage in HCW, we diagnosed very few infections in123 unvaccinated HCWs. "
Not exactly the type of info I would say is conclusive, the author certainly doesn't think so and even if he does manage to make firm conclusions there will be another variant along to change the scores on the doors.
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02-09-2021 09:14 PM #446
Isn’t the rate in England far lower than it is in Scotland? Only difference being schools being back up here. Do they release the stats on how many of our cases are school children?
Now I’m delighted my kids are at school but that’s surely the biggest factor rather than who has or hasn’t been vaccinated and got a certificate. Maybe too simple.
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02-09-2021 09:23 PM #447
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If the vaccine passports start to apply to bars, restaurants etc though then I’d suspect we’ll see a lot of people’s objections to the vaccine disappear into thin air and they’ll go and get it.
I’d hazard a guess a lot of folks objections to getting the vaccine aren’t as strong as their want for going out for dinner or a pint.
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02-09-2021 09:29 PM #449
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But there are also a great number of attention seekers objecting for the sake of getting a reaction.
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https://www.nhsinform.scot/covid-19-vaccine/invitations-and-appointments/who-will-be-offered-the-coronavirus-vaccineThere is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.
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