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    Newell should be one of everybody's favourites to be fair.
    Thereís times he is frustrating as he slows the tempo down a lot but it was clear today how much we missed him.

    Better player than heís given credit for (including from me at times)


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    If you're not going to even feature in a game that's crying out for your talent then what's the point.

    Any one of the midfield three (probably Gogic) should have made way for Allan at half time at the latest.

    We're wasting our most creative player.

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    If you're not going to even feature in a game that's crying out for your talent then what's the point.

    Any one of the midfield three (probably Gogic) should have made way for Allan at half time at the latest.

    We're wasting our most creative player.
    Without any changes we then went on to dominate the 2nd half and should have had the game sewn up with the chances we created



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    Quote Originally Posted by bingo70 View Post
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    Thereís times he is frustrating as he slows the tempo down a lot but it was clear today how much we missed him.

    Better player than heís given credit for (including from me at times)
    My point is though that last season he was out injured for a spell and was brought straight back in when fit. I wasnít alone in thinking he wasnít great when he returned,but he was continually selected. The same is happening this season with McGinn, albeit we donít have much competition for his position.

    There are certain players the manager has total belief in and will allow them to play through some poor form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callum_62 View Post
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    Without any changes we then went on to dominate the 2nd half and should have had the game sewn up with the chances we created



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    We should have. I'm not saying we weren't the better team. We clearly were and Gogic was actually better second half. I still think Allan should be playing in these kind of games when you know the teams going to sit back and flood the midfield.

    Missed chance for me.

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    Agree with a lot of that except the bit about him sitting tight. I think he’ll be looking to move this season whether on loan or permanently. For all the criticism he’s received at times for being all about the money he’s consistently pushed for loan moves when he’s not been getting game time at his parent clubs. Given his health issues and the resulting missed games I don’t expect him to retire any time soon
    His history does indeed indicate that Scott will be speaking to Ross and pushing for a loan move.
    A loan move works for Scott because he will get to play and importantly for him, will also get all of his Hibs wage.
    However, unless the loan club is making a significant contribution to his wage there is nothing in it for Hibs and that's the reason Scott will end up sitting tight.
    Similarly, no way he will go anywhere on a permanent unless we pay him off so again nothing in it for Hibs if he wants paid up.
    Hibs and Scott are trapped by his contract. A player on say £4k a week who no team would pay more than £1k a week for so Hibs likely to keep him as a playing option just in case he is needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CMurdoch View Post
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    His history does indeed indicate that Scott will be speaking to Ross and pushing for a loan move.
    A loan move works for Scott because he will get to play and importantly for him, will also get all of his Hibs wage.
    However, unless the loan club is making a significant contribution to his wage there is nothing in it for Hibs and that's the reason Scott will end up sitting tight.
    Similarly, no way he will go anywhere on a permanent unless we pay him off so again nothing in it for Hibs if he wants paid up.
    Hibs and Scott are trapped by his contract. A player on say £4k a week who no team would pay more than £1k a week for so Hibs likely to keep him as a playing option just in case he is needed.
    how long is his contract?

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    I have my doubts that he will still be here at the end of the window.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMurdoch View Post
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    His history does indeed indicate that Scott will be speaking to Ross and pushing for a loan move.
    A loan move works for Scott because he will get to play and importantly for him, will also get all of his Hibs wage.
    However, unless the loan club is making a significant contribution to his wage there is nothing in it for Hibs and that's the reason Scott will end up sitting tight.
    Similarly, no way he will go anywhere on a permanent unless we pay him off so again nothing in it for Hibs if he wants paid up.
    Hibs and Scott are trapped by his contract. A player on say £4k a week who no team would pay more than £1k a week for so Hibs likely to keep him as a playing option just in case he is needed.
    I think Scott Allan staying with us is down to reasons other than his Hibs wage. Bizarre to suggest otherwise.

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    how long is his contract?
    This is his last season

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    I think Scott Allan staying with us is down to reasons other than his Hibs wage. Bizarre to suggest otherwise.
    You are replying to one post out of context hence it appears bizarre.
    It is the last part of a discussion with poster Jeffers.
    If you look back in the thread you will see the earlier parts of the conversation between us and hopefully that will allow you to add something meaningful to the discussion.

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    My honest opinion is yes, they were wrong. I personally donít think he was excellent that night against Arsenal at all.

    I was at the Raith game, I donít remember him playing that night but I think he might have played?

    Iím sorry, for me, heís lost that wee burst that used to take him past players and I think he looks slow and sluggish.

    Scott Allan has been getting written off his whole life, I absolutely wouldnít bet against him coming back and proving the doubters wrong. Right now though, I think Jack Ross is right to look at other options.

    Fwiw I could see Allan adjusting his game and coming back a different type of player.

    Yes I do wonder if he could play a bit deeper, perhaps as a direct replacement for Newell yesterday.

    Scott is not much of a tackler but he has shown he can close down opponents effectively and he reads the game well.

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    Scotty Just a fantastic player. Why anyone would wish him away is beyond me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northernhibee View Post
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    Heís played barely any football in two to three years and I think we need to accept that the Scott Allan that we remember may not be the Scott Allan that Jack Ross is working with.
    Excellent description of what might be the case. Hopefully Scott can somehow get his mojo back!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacoluna View Post
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    He's not looked fit to be when he's Cameron, looks overweight aswell.
    He should try being Messi instead of Cameron then!! 😂

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    He should try being Messi instead of Cameron then!! ��
    I'm not sure anyone ever aspired to being Ian Cameron.

    Think he was a Duffy signing?
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    To be honest, I like SA, but, I dont think he will be here by the end of the season, he is hardly playing, been out too long, I think for him a move is best.

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    If we released Scotty or he became a free agent I would put money on Aberdeen snapping him up.

    Everyone knows how good a player he can be on his day, we should be doing everything we can to get him back to that level.

    In fairness, he started the season as the first pick in the role behind the striker.

    A red card in the first game meant he was subbed and Magennis brought on who done very well. Allan was then injured for the next game.

    Magennis continued to perform well.

    Allan then couldnít travel to our away leg in Europe.

    He canít have any arguments yet as Magennis has been doing very well. Against Dundee he was never getting on whilst we were winning 2-1, Ross always goes for the safe approach at this score which is fair enough.

    Once he gets his chance he needs to take it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibiza View Post
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    Scotty Just a fantastic player. Why anyone would wish him away is beyond me.
    I think the thing is he was a brilliant player. now just not got the pace for some reason . I'm sure the reason he does not play is in training the other midfielders are fitter and quicker. He will get caught on the ball.
    Loved the guy but a move away might be best there is no way another contract will be offered .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenworld View Post
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    I think the thing is he was a brilliant player. now just not got the pace for some reason . I'm sure the reason he does not play is in training the other midfielders are fitter and quicker. He will get caught on the ball.
    Loved the guy but a move away might be best there is no way another contract will be offered .

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    Was there not talk of a new contract last week?

    I'm sure we could have loaned him out to Inverness again if we really wanted which suggests he's part of Jack Ross' plans. I think he'll play a bit part role, but a role none the less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyrie View Post
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    I'm not sure anyone ever aspired to being Ian Cameron.

    Think he was a Duffy signing?
    It was actually Alex Miller that signed Ian Cameron along with Brian Welsh. Pre-season quality signings!

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    It was actually Alex Miller that signed Ian Cameron along with Brian Welsh. Pre-season quality signings!
    Indeed. From memory they signed the day before the first league game of the season and needed a wee bit time to Ďbed iní. Not sure either of them reached that goal though.

    Brian Welsh was like watching Bambi on drugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inconsequential View Post
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    It was actually Alex Miller that signed Ian Cameron along with Brian Welsh. Pre-season quality signings!
    Swapped David Farrell and Gareth Evans for Cameron ( Partick Thistle)

    Dearie me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logie Green View Post
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    Indeed. From memory they signed the day before the first league game of the season and needed a wee bit time to Ďbed iní. Not sure either of them reached that goal though.

    Brian Welsh was like watching Bambi on drugs.
    I was delighted when we signed Welsh, had looked impressive coming through at Utd, and we spent a fair amount of cash on him, IIRC. Pretty sure he also claimed that we mismanaged an injury that affected him very badly.

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    Swapped David Farrell and Gareth Evans for Cameron ( Partick Thistle)

    Dearie me
    Think he missed a sitter against hearts always stuck in my mind with the purple carlsberg strip

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    It was actually Alex Miller that signed Ian Cameron along with Brian Welsh. Pre-season quality signings!
    I can't even remember Cameron. Welsh was pish, I remember him right enough.

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    he looked a tad podgy in the photo i saw of him at training the other day, shame a great wee footballer

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    Will be amazed if Allan is not away before the window closes. Agree with comments that, sadly, Scotty is not likely to get a new deal, especially as Jack shows little appetite to play him.

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    he looked a tad podgy in the photo i saw of him at training the other day, shame a great wee footballer
    Highly doubt that, given that a mere 4 weeks ago he was looking the most stacked I've seen him.

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