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    Scott Allan

    Appreciate Jack Ross never answers questions or commits, but is there are chance he could tell us what's going on here,?
    Yet again, today was his type of game and not a sniff. And that's in a side without Newall and Nisbet.
    A huge waste of his talents. If there is more to it then the club should say, as it makes no sense at all at the moment.

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    Scott Allan

    Surely we should have had him on in the second half , canít understand Jack Ross at times

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    I just don't think he rates Allan or believes he is good enough.
    Cougars!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HH81 View Post
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    I just don't think he rates Allan or believes he is good enough.
    He definitely thought he was good enough before covid hit. He was a first pick. Since his health issues etc weíve no idea what heís been like and our main midfield three have been tremendous this season. That being said I wouldíve had him on for Gogic at HT today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HH81 View Post
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    I just don't think he rates Allan or believes he is good enough.
    That's not what he says.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfred E Newman View Post
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    That's not what he says.
    So why does he never get a game?

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    Heís played barely any football in two to three years and I think we need to accept that the Scott Allan that we remember may not be the Scott Allan that Jack Ross is working with.


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    Heís played barely any football in two to three years and I think we need to accept that the Scott Allan that we remember may not be the Scott Allan that Jack Ross is working with.
    He is still a better option than drey wright man!

    He got the games for inverness last year and by all accounts did well. Strolled it against stoke etc in pre season. A fit scott allan walks into this team, but clearly Ross is going for a different thing and, as a fan I find that so disappointing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keep the faith View Post
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    He is still a better option than drey wright man!

    He got the games for inverness last year and by all accounts did well. Strolled it against stoke etc in pre season. A fit scott allan walks into this team, but clearly Ross is going for a different thing and, as a fan I find that so disappointing.
    Drey Wright was decent when he came on.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Northernhibee View Post
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    Drey Wright was decent when he came on.
    Yes. Had a few decent touches ..

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    Drey Wright was decent when he came on.
    I thought so too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northernhibee View Post
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    Drey Wright was decent when he came on.
    Aye he never fell over or got injured a huge bonus

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    Quote Originally Posted by scotia44 View Post
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    Aye he never fell over or got injured a huge bonus
    Classy response. 🙄

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    Quote Originally Posted by scotia44 View Post
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    Aye he never fell over or got injured a huge bonus
    He looked to do something positive with the ball and tried to drive us forward. He gets pass marks.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Northernhibee View Post
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    Heís played barely any football in two to three years and I think we need to accept that the Scott Allan that we remember may not be the Scott Allan that Jack Ross is working with.
    Excellent description of what might be the case. Hopefully Scott can somehow get his mojo back!

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    He has hardly played in a few seasons now. For me he is not the player that we had in the past any more and for me would not have changed anything about today.

    For you would have to play him where Magennis has been playing so we would then need to play him out of position like last season. I can't see how we fit Allan in

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    JR has to live or die by his decision making. Today he used Gogic against a side whoíll most likely finish bottom three.

    I think most of us who know what SA brings to a game, think he would have been a better choice of player for todayís match.

    Gogic will serve us well against the better sides Iíd hope. Although going by todayís and his most recent performances, some might be beginning to have grave doubts.

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    JR has to live or die by his decision making. Today he used Gogic against a side whoíll most likely finish bottom three.

    I think most of us who know what SA brings to a game, think he would have been a better choice of player for todayís match.

    Gogic will serve us well against the better sides Iíd hope. Although going by todayís and his most recent performances, some might be beginning to have grave doubts.
    We got over run at times in midfield today, especially the first 25 mins, Allan wouldn't have stopped that happening

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    If he canít get a game today then heís clearly not in the managers plans. Weíll never know if heís as good as he was if he doesnít get a chance.

    United we stand here....

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibIBZ View Post
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    We got over run at times in midfield today, especially the first 25 mins, Allan wouldn't have stopped that happening
    Weíll never know but surely you have to concede heíd be a better choice when in possession? Gogic consistently gave the ball away today.

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    Allan came on last week against Killie and looked unfit to me and certainly nowhere near the level we have come to expect of Scott Allan - anyone crying out for him to play today couldn't have seen him last 30 mins last week.

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    Allan came on last week against Killie and looked unfit to me and certainly nowhere near the level we have come to expect of Scott Allan - anyone crying out for him to play today couldn't have seen him last 30 mins last week.
    He looked fine. Maybe a little unfit, but also got involved and created a few chances. He cant get fit without actually playing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    He looked fine. Maybe a little unfit, but also got involved and created a few chances. He cant get fit without actually playing.
    Whyís he looking unfit?

    Heís not recovering from injury, he spent last season on loan after his heart condition, heís had a full pre-season and heís had lots of match time in pre-season and the early part of this season.

    Heís not looking unfit, thatís just his body shape and condition now I think.

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    Fully expect him to leave. Despite posters on here saying otherwise itís clear Ross doesnít rate him now. Not to get on today while Wright and Gullan do tells me all I need to know.

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    Fully expect him to leave. Despite posters on here saying otherwise itís clear Ross doesnít rate him now. Not to get on today while Wright and Gullan do tells me all I need to know.
    On the evidence of his performance when he came on last week Scott is nowhere near where he needs to be at the moment. Just getting brushed off the ball with ease.

    Jack Ross has done everything to have him as involved as possible since he arrived. Canít understand why anyone would say otherwise.

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    On the evidence of his performance when he came on last week Scott is nowhere near where he needs to be at the moment. Just getting brushed off the ball with ease.

    Jack Ross has done everything to have him as involved as possible since he arrived. Canít understand why anyone would say otherwise.
    Just posted similar mate the keyboard managers on here crying out for him to start clearly weren't in the 5k at ER last weekend as he got 30 mins and looked so poor and not ready to me. I love Scotty as much as anyone but he's not at the levels required yet clearly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Borderhibbie76 View Post
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    Just posted similar mate the keyboard managers on here crying out for him to start clearly weren't in the 5k at ER last weekend as he got 30 mins and looked so poor and not ready to me. I love Scotty as much as anyone but he's not at the levels required yet clearly
    He didnít get 30 minutes last week.

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    He didnít get 30 minutes last week.
    No need to be pedantic he came on in 67th minute so got thr best part of half an hour

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    Ross will never say in public how he sees players.
    However, his actions always send a clear message.
    Last season he sent a very clear message to Gray by effectively refusing to play him and Gray duly retired.
    Mallan got the message and has left. Vela, Horgan and Kamberi were quickly eased out.

    This season Gullan and Allan appear to be getting a message from him.
    In Allan's case the situation is complicated by his previous health issues, not travelling to Croatia was a strange one and it was equally strange that he brought him on last weekend if he was trying to send a consistent message. However, overall I get the impression he would like him to be so desperate to play that he asks to move on, he 'reluctantly' agrees and Allan's significant wage is freed up. Unfortunately for Hibs and Ross I think Allan will sit tight and collect his money for the final year of his contract before retiring. Allan has been fighting the odds his whole career and this is almost certainly his final act at this level.
    Last edited by CMurdoch; 22-08-2021 at 02:11 PM.

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    He's not looked fit to be when he's Cameron, looks overweight aswell.

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