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20-08-2021 02:32 PM #61
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20-08-2021 02:33 PM #62This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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20-08-2021 02:34 PM #63
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22-08-2021 10:36 AM #64This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
'Give way to one another in obedience to Christ. Wives should regard their husbands as they regard the Lord, since as Christ is head of the Church and saves the whole body, so is a husband the head of his wife; and as the Church submits to Christ, so should wives to their husbands, in everything'.
St. Paul to the Ephesians.
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22-08-2021 10:58 AM #65This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
The Gospel reading for this week is always an interesting one. It seems even back then people found some of the teachings difficult and were happy to walk away:
'This saying is hard; who can accept it?' followed by: 'As a result of this, many of his disciples returned to their former way of life and no longer accompanied him.'
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22-08-2021 03:38 PM #66This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
As your post shows though, nothing is unthinkingly accepted, nor should it be.Every gimmick hungry yob,
Digging gold from rock and roll
Grabs the mic to tell us,
He'll die before he's sold.
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28-08-2021 06:45 AM #67
One day, a farmer was out mending fences and at some point along the way he lost his Bible.
A month later, one of his sheep walks up to him clutching the Bible between its teeth.
"Oh, Lord," exclaims the farmer as he drops to his knees, "Thank you Lord, it's a miracle!"
"Not really," says the sheep, "Your name's inside the cover, you daft *******.”
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04-10-2021 06:26 PM #68
I'm up to Book 25, Ecclesiastes, about 750 pages in. I'm enjoying reading the full Bible more than I expected. Whether it's the divine Word of God, I shall maintain a diplomatic silence.....
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05-10-2021 07:39 AM #69
I decided to finally get into the spirit of the thread, and read a book in which I'm a non-believer.
So I read The Highway Code.
What a load of utter nonsense that was. I have no idea how anybody could be naive enough to believe that stuff.
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05-10-2021 05:07 PM #70This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Genocide
Blood Magic
Infanticide
Child brides and paedophilia
Rape
Land theft
Racism
Slavery
Torture
Genital mutilation
Plagues
Famines
Floods
Earthquakes
Plus other exciting phenomena
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05-10-2021 05:30 PM #71
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05-10-2021 06:14 PM #72This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I would have said it's more of a Brookside, but I get your point
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05-10-2021 06:34 PM #73
I was just watching yet another story on the news about widespread paedophilia and child abuse in the Catholic church, this time in France.
This one was about the THOUSANDS of Priests, and other associated Church members, that abused HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of children over the decades.
Thank God (pun intended) for Free Will.... and God's apparent disinterest in the welfare of those children... AND the fact that those people claim to be his representatives on earth.
Those in charge of the various Churches must be absolutely delighted that their followers still blindly believe... after centuries of hideous behaviour from those in positions of power in said churches... that these same people represent God on Earth, and even have the right to tell others what is and what is not wrong.
And God, in his infinite wisdom, sits up there and lets them carry on like that, while those down on earth still blindly believe, or even blindly still try to defend the indefensible
But to be fair, they have some lovely church buildings and never hold back from filling them with pointless paintings of 'Saints' and 'Virgins', crosses of Gold and precious stones..... so that makes it all worth while, I suppose.
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05-10-2021 06:37 PM #74
"Some 216,000 children - mostly boys - have been sexually abused by clergy in the French Catholic Church since 1950, a damning new inquiry has found.
The head of the inquiry said there were at least 2,900-3,200 abusers, and accused the Church of showing a "cruel indifference towards the victims"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-58801183
"The inquiry found the number of children abused in France could rise to 330,000, when taking into account abuses committed by lay members of the Church, such as teachers at Catholic schools."
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If institutions hit by child abuse allegations dealt with it in the proper way, the crimes would be bad enough; but the cover ups are what really destroys trust. When institutions care more about their reputation than the well being of children, abuse can continue for decades. There are so many examples of the Catholic Church putting public reputation before the safeguarding of children: paedophile priests being moved from parish to parish when scandal erupts, which only spreads the abuse to new areas! It has to be said the vast majority of priests are good men who genuinely want to serve God. However, the response of the Church to paedophile priests has on numerous occasions been woeful: cover ups, hush money, victim blaming, denial - there are examples of each. In many countries church attendances have dropped, due to child abuse scandals. I'm sure any Irish posters can attest to that. The Church, indeed all institutions which work with children, must be compelled to transparency. Zero tolerance, robust safeguarding policies, and criminal investigations of all allegations must be a legal requirement. Thousands upon thousands of young lives have been destroyed already.HIBERNIAN FC - ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY SINCE 1875
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05-10-2021 08:07 PM #76This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Last edited by marinello59; 05-10-2021 at 08:22 PM.
Every gimmick hungry yob,
Digging gold from rock and roll
Grabs the mic to tell us,
He'll die before he's sold.
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05-10-2021 08:24 PM #77This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I enjoyed the previous Book, The Wisdom of Solomon, more than any so far. Here we clearly see the philosophy of the ancient Greeks, such as Plato, Aristotle, Aeschylus and Euripides at work: mortality and the shortness of life; how to find meaning when we know we shall die; how to avoid fear of death. It's ancient stoicism and existentialism, which is much more my thing than the miracles of the Old Testament. I'm sure The New Testament in full will be more to my way of thinking than the wrath of the O.T. God.
I just noticed that The Wisdom of Solomon is one of the books that Protestant Bibles do not include. That's a real shame, as it's a very interesting philosophical tract. Was it Martin Luther who decided which books Protestant should dispense with, and does any Biblical scholar on here know why that book is omitted from Protestant Bibles?Last edited by Hibernia&Alba; 05-10-2021 at 08:47 PM.
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06-10-2021 07:15 AM #78This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Wow, that's an amazing way to interpret what I wrote. I most certainly don't have contempt for all my mates who are Catholics or for the abused children, it's the self-righteous, hypocritical religions in general I have a serious problem with
Anyway, I was responding to an ongoing discussion on this subject in this thread, but I'll happily move this to another thread.
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06-10-2021 07:53 AM #79This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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06-10-2021 03:00 PM #80This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
The Vespasian/Titus campaigns in Palestine is great movie waiting to be made.
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06-10-2021 05:30 PM #82This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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22-12-2021 02:52 PM #84
Finished it, all 1588 pages. The New Testament is much more my thing; if we could all (not least those who claim to be Christians) actually live by the code Jesus commands, we'd have an infinitely better world. Do I believe it's literally true? Deep down, no I don't, but the social message is commendable. I've been attending Mass again since my best friend died earlier and the year, and I completely understand the comfort it provides to true believers. It would be wonderful if there is something better after death, but I just don't buy it. I think all religions are ultimately an attempt by human beings to come to terms with our mortality. As far as we know, we are the only species aware we will die; it's the ultimate question, and I think religions of every hue try to answer that, telling us that our lives do have meaning and comforting us in the face of our mortality. Those of us without that belief can easily slip into nihilism, and religion attempts to tackle that problem.
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24-12-2021 11:08 PM #85
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I’ve always said to my pals that religion serves a purpose, or at least it should. It’s a form of guidance to try and help human beings be good people and live decent lives (obviously it leads to the opposite in some cases). Maybe advancements in science, technology and people generally not being god-fearing faithful people that fall into line means it’s lost the effectiveness it once had and some would argue religion has had its time.
As long as it continues to help and comfort people without them forcing their views on others then no harm is being done.
Unfortunately we’ve full scale wars and horrendous acts being carried out with people using “religion” as the reason, or indeed using their position in the church in negative (and horrible) ways. I’m sure the teachings in the bible never intended it this way…
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25-12-2021 09:10 AM #86This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
So your next task is the Koran.
Then the Book of Mormon.
Happy reading.
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25-12-2021 09:55 PM #87This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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