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    Unfortunately we have no one who can take over for McGinn right now as I feel he's been poor so far this season and was the same the last 4-5 games of last season. Newell is a show pony and slows the game down when played deeper, always looks to go backwards or play the 3 yard safe option pass. Gogic was brutal on sunday and although he's had decent games for us he's now showing his severe limitations as a footballer, we need better if we want to move forward.

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    Nisbet.
    Yeah I agree with your point regards Newell that's exactly what he does which is fine when you are 3- 0 up but he does the same when we are drawing or getting beat.He would be a better player if he was more positive and beleived in himself more.


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    Macey

    McGinn
    Hanlon
    Porto

    Boyle
    Magennis
    Allan
    Doyle Hayes
    Murphy

    Doidge
    Nisbet

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    I’d be tempted to go 3-5-2 to start the game. They’ll be a decent side and we need to make sure we don’t concede soft goals like we did on Sunday.

    I’d go

    Macey

    Mcginn
    Porto
    Hanlon

    Boyle
    Magennis
    Gogic or JDH (not sure on that one)
    Newell
    Stevenson

    Doidge
    Nisbet

    Imo we are far more of a threat with 2 up front. Problem with this formation is Boyle being far less effective when starting from deeper, if Mcginn plays well though and the system is fluid then Boyle should still be able to get up the park.

    Murphy a good sub to be able to bring on as well.

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    Unfortunately we have no one who can take over for McGinn right now as I feel he's been poor so far this season and was the same the last 4-5 games of last season. Newell is a show pony and slows the game down when played deeper, always looks to go backwards or play the 3 yard safe option pass. Gogic was brutal on sunday and although he's had decent games for us he's now showing his severe limitations as a footballer, we need better if we want to move forward.

    Macey

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    Magennis
    Doyle Hayes

    Boyle
    Allan
    Mackay

    Nisbet.
    We'll go with players who are fit and also experience will play a part IMO. I can't see any chance of Allan or McKay starting tbh.

    Newell was excellent in the 2nd half on Sunday and has typically done well against the Old Firm in our tougher games. Not a chance he misses out.

    Although Murphy was fairly poor at the weekend, he's one of the most experienced players and I'd be surprised if he doesn't start. I think it will be the same team that started vs Motherwell. Would be slightly disappointing if we can't find a place for Doidge but I think he'll be on the bench again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dangermouse View Post
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    I think Newell is still suspended after his straight red card.
    Not sure.

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    We'll go with players who are fit and also experience will play a part IMO. I can't see any chance of Allan or McKay starting tbh.

    Newell was excellent in the 2nd half on Sunday and has typically done well against the Old Firm in our tougher games. Not a chance he misses out.

    Although Murphy was fairly poor at the weekend, he's one of the most experienced players and I'd be surprised if he doesn't start. I think it will be the same team that started vs Motherwell. Would be slightly disappointing if we can't find a place for Doidge but I think he'll be on the bench again.

    That was the team I would go for and not the team I expect Ross to choose, big difference.

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    Unfortunately we have no one who can take over for McGinn right now as I feel he's been poor so far this season and was the same the last 4-5 games of last season. Newell is a show pony and slows the game down when played deeper, always looks to go backwards or play the 3 yard safe option pass. Gogic was brutal on sunday and although he's had decent games for us he's now showing his severe limitations as a footballer, we need better if we want to move forward.

    Macey

    McGinn
    Porteous
    Hanlon
    Stevenson

    Magennis
    Doyle Hayes

    Boyle
    Allan
    Mackay

    Nisbet.
    That's the 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by J-C View Post
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    Unfortunately we have no one who can take over for McGinn right now as I feel he's been poor so far this season and was the same the last 4-5 games of last season. Newell is a show pony and slows the game down when played deeper, always looks to go backwards or play the 3 yard safe option pass. Gogic was brutal on sunday and although he's had decent games for us he's now showing his severe limitations as a footballer, we need better if we want to move forward.

    Macey

    McGinn
    Porteous
    Hanlon
    Stevenson

    Magennis
    Doyle Hayes

    Boyle
    Allan
    Mackay

    Nisbet.
    100% would be the team I'd play as well. Like the look fo it. But I'd be majorly surprised if Newell and Gogic don't start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bingo70 View Post
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    I’d be tempted to go 3-5-2 to start the game. They’ll be a decent side and we need to make sure we don’t concede soft goals like we did on Sunday.

    I’d go

    Macey

    Mcginn
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    Hanlon

    Boyle
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    Gogic or JDH (not sure on that one)
    Newell
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    Doidge
    Nisbet

    Imo we are far more of a threat with 2 up front. Problem with this formation is Boyle being far less effective when starting from deeper, if Mcginn plays well though and the system is fluid then Boyle should still be able to get up the park.

    Murphy a good sub to be able to bring on as well.
    Like this team,

    If we go 352 with Boyle on one side it needs to be Stevenson at left wing back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flash View Post
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    Incredible people have teams without Newall. He is the man that everything goes through.
    Did you watch the Motherwell game. Doyle-Hayes took that role and looked far busier and looked ideal in that spot. I like Newell further forward but Magennis was excellent in that spot so I would go for him in the central more forward midfield role.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flash View Post
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    Incredible people have teams without Newall. He is the man that everything goes through.
    I’m agreeing with this ..more importantly Ross does too . Newall, when fit , plays. Ross clearly rated him highly .

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigwheel View Post
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    I’m agreeing with this ..more importantly Ross does too . Newall, when fit , plays. Ross clearly rated him highly .
    We've signed Magennis and Doyle-Hayes so he clearly rates them as well.

    I actually think Newell had a good game on Sunday against 'Well. But Newell is often too negative for me. Yeah he drops deep to get the ball, but you lose count the amount of times he just fires it back to Hanlon or Porto rather than turning and trying to find a forward pass.

    I do think both Newell and Gogic will start on Thursday though.

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    We've signed Magennis and Doyle-Hayes so he clearly rates them as well.

    I actually think Newell had a good game on Sunday against 'Well. But Newell is often too negative for me. Yeah he drops deep to get the ball, but you lose count the amount of times he just fires it back to Hanlon or Porto rather than turning and trying to find a forward pass.

    I do think both Newell and Gogic will start on Thursday though.
    I thought Newall had a poor first half on Sunday . But was a big player for us in the second half .

    I think Ross sees Newall as one of his main guys .

    Like the look of both Magennis and JDH this season too

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    I thought Newell was poor the 1st half and I would have been happy to see him subbed. But he was a different player in the 2nd half, being much more direct and aggressive.

    Anyway, is he not suspended for Thursday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theonlywayisup View Post
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    I thought Newell was poor the 1st half and I would have been happy to see him subbed. But he was a different player in the 2nd half, being much more direct and aggressive.

    Anyway, is he not suspended for Thursday.
    Is Newell suspended I see the Hibs website seems to think so. Why is he surely not? If a two game ban wtf did we not appeal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimBHibees View Post
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    Is Newell suspended I see the Hibs website seems to think so. Why is he surely not? If a two game ban wtf did we not appeal?

    https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/matche...n-v-hnk-rijeka
    https://documents.uefa.com/r/Regulat...lations-Online

    Article 52.01 says a one game ban for a red card

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Whizz View Post
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    https://documents.uefa.com/r/Regulat...lations-Online

    Article 52.01 says a one game ban for a red card
    That's what I thought and Hibs would surely have appealed if more than one game so surprised Hibs are saying he is suspended. Also saw an een article saying Hibs weren't appealing as it would have put at risk this game if lost appeal. Assume he is ok to play as would be a significant loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Whizz View Post
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    https://documents.uefa.com/r/Regulat...lations-Online

    Article 52.01 says a one game ban for a red card
    In case of serious offences, the UEFA Control, Ethics and Disciplinary Body is entitled to augment this punishment, including by extending it to other competitions.

    If the red was deemed serious enough the ban could be extended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J-C View Post
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    In case of serious offences, the UEFA Control, Ethics and Disciplinary Body is entitled to augment this punishment, including by extending it to other competitions.

    If the red was deemed serious enough the ban could be extended.
    But the tv showed he didn’t touch the player Would be a nonsense if he was banned fir a second game when tv footage is available


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    Yes, I am looking, but not an expert for Hibs players so....

    We still did not have a press conference so I do not know about current squad status, who is eligible to play and who is not.

    I expect that we will start like against Dinamo, some variation of 3-5-2. Perhaps we will make some changes in midfield, we have some new players who are now registered.

    Also, do not expect Murić to start in first 11.
    Who will start at left back?

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    Who will start at left back?
    Andrija Vukčević for sure. Merkhulov stayed in Rijeka and Jurišić is to green.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronniekirk View Post
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    But the tv showed he didn’t touch the player Would be a nonsense if he was banned fir a second game when tv footage is available


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    Yes we know he didn't touch the guy but he was slightly out of control when he flew in, the ref might have seen that as excessive hence the straight red, not a clue why Hibs didn't appeal the red.

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    Allan's not a starter for me at the moment

    Only question mark is Gogic or JDH

    Happy with same side as against Motherwell outside that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callum_62 View Post
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    Allan's not a starter for me at the moment

    Only question mark is Gogic or JDH

    Happy with same side as against Motherwell outside that

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    This for me.

    I think Gogic will be given the chance to prove himself in this game. If he doesn't step it up then JDH comes on.

    I also think KM is better behind the strikers (in place of newell) but I also prefer KM sitting more as a DM over Newell.

    Decisions decisions...

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    Quote Originally Posted by duffers View Post
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    Who will start at left back?
    Doig should play.

    He's our player and unless a move is very close to completion, then he should be starting ahead of Stevenson. This is a big game and we need our best players on the pitch.

    Aside from that JDH has earned a start in midfield with Newel being suspended.

    I'd be going with Nisbet up front and Boyle and Murphy out on the flanks.

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    We need to win by a couple of goals. We need McGregor, we need legs in midfield, we need pace wide and we need 2 up front.

    Macey

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callum_62 View Post
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    Allan's not a starter for me at the moment

    Only question mark is Gogic or JDH

    Happy with same side as against Motherwell outside that

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    Do you not think we look a far more dangerous side when starting with 2 up front?

    I think we need to get Doidge on, technical continental defenders don’t like forwards like him a lot of the time although the Rijeka fan on here might correct me on that, plus he’s a goal threat as well as offering great help at defensive set pieces.

    On top of that Nisbet is far better playing as a two.

    If we are going to go through this tie I suspect we’ll need to win tonight and that means going for it from the start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bingo70 View Post
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    Do you not think we look a far more dangerous side when starting with 2 up front?

    I think we need to get Doidge on, technical continental defenders don’t like forwards like him a lot of the time although the Rijeka fan on here might correct me on that, plus he’s a goal threat as well as offering great help at defensive set pieces.

    On top of that Nisbet is far better playing as a two.

    If we are going to go through this tie I suspect we’ll need to win tonight and that means going for it from the start.
    I agree, doidge has to start. Don’t think nisbet is as effective up there on his own either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bingo70 View Post
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    Do you not think we look a far more dangerous side when starting with 2 up front?

    I think we need to get Doidge on, technical continental defenders don’t like forwards like him a lot of the time although the Rijeka fan on here might correct me on that, plus he’s a goal threat as well as offering great help at defensive set pieces.

    On top of that Nisbet is far better playing as a two.

    If we are going to go through this tie I suspect we’ll need to win tonight and that means going for it from the start.
    Certainly last season neither Doidge nor Nisbet looked very effective on their own, but in saying that the central midfielders weren't chipping in with many goals.

    Allan and/or Magennis might change the need to play 2 up front - we'll probably find out at some point.

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    I read earlier that Newall is still suspended? I assumed he had a one game ban?

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