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Is there still Hibs fans who don’t rate him and want to be critical?

[oneone73]

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Is there still Hibs fans who don’t rate him and want to be critical?

No, but there will be Hearts fans pretending to be Hibs fans along soon.

[Pretty Boy]

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Is there still Hibs fans who don’t rate him and want to be critical?

I daresay there will be a few but if we keep playing like we are then it will be an ever dwindling band.

I wouldn't say I didn't rate him but I was ambivalent about him. It's performances like last week, Thursday and today that are pulling me towards being a big fan.

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Is there still Hibs fans who don’t rate him and want to be critical?

that question will only be answered after the derby.

[calumhibee1]

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Agree with every word. Can’t even put it down to not being there last season as I wasn’t there today and still really enjoyed it. Whether it’s a change in approach, crowds back in, or a combination of both the signs are really encouraging.

Yup.

I wasn’t at Motherwell but our style of play was much more entertaining than last season.

I think the idea it was because we were watching on the tv doesn’t hold a lot of weight after the start to this season as we’ve been very good on tv in the last 3 games. We seem to have adopted a much more exciting style which is great to see.

[Aldo]

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that question will only be answered after the derby.

So if we get beaten in the derby but still finish 3rd this season is he a failure?


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[Keith_M]

I think calling him the best manager in Scotland is a bit over the top, TBH, and I've consistently been a fan of his.

Let's just enjoy the moment and see where he takes us.

[Dashing Bob S]

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Is there still Hibs fans who don’t rate him and want to be critical?

Yes. He’s proven himself to be a solid manager over the piece but there is a question mark over his team being able to compete with more agricultural but motivated outfits (Hearts, StJohnstone) in semis and finals.

I’m pro Ross but the idea that he is above any criticism is fanciful nonsense.

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I daresay there will be a few but if we keep playing like we are then it will be an ever dwindling band.

I wouldn't say I didn't rate him but I was ambivalent about him. It's performances like last week, Thursday and today that are pulling me towards being a big fan.

Good reply fair play.

What I honestly don’t get is the lack of awareness that this is an incremental improvement since he came in and was always going to take time. Fwiw I think we have been pretty spoiled in terms of early progression it could have been a hell of a lot worse yet some fans want success on tap overnight, it doesn’t work like that.

I don’t agree with all his decisions in fact I’ve said before I wasn’t trust fussed for him to get the job in the first place but I have massive respect for the job he has done and think he’s done fantastic. Got to remember last year we had a bit of a thread bare squad upto the January window and and probably one of the biggest positives for me is the players, they all seem to love playing for him and not seem a discerning voice come out of the place since he took charge.

There will be ups and downs like we have seen the last year but that’s football.

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Yes. He’s proven himself to be a solid manager over the piece but there is a question mark over his team being able to compete with more agricultural but motivated outfits (Hearts, StJohnstone) in semis and finals.

I’m pro Ross but the idea that he is above any criticism is fanciful nonsense.

Not sure I’ve seen anything that says he’s above criticism? That would be the hearts game we were the better side and the cup final we were pish and players didn’t turn up, it’s football trust happens not sure what the manager could have done differently I either of those games the players on the other hand

[S4uzee]

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Not sure I’ve seen anything that says he’s above criticism? That would be the hearts game we were the better side and the cup final we were pish and players didn’t turn up, it’s football trust happens not sure what the manager could have done differently I either of those games the players on the other hand

The team set-up?

[SMAXXA]

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The team set-up?

Enlighten me what would you have done?

[Iggy Pope]

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Enlighten me what would you have done?

Played Darren McGregor in the cup final. But I’m also pro-Ross.

[HendoDelivered]

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that question will only be answered after the derby.

Wrong

[B.H.F.C]

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Good reply fair play.

What I honestly don’t get is the lack of awareness that this is an incremental improvement since he came in and was always going to take time. Fwiw I think we have been pretty spoiled in terms of early progression it could have been a hell of a lot worse yet some fans want success on tap overnight, it doesn’t work like that.

I don’t agree with all his decisions in fact I’ve said before I wasn’t trust fussed for him to get the job in the first place but I have massive respect for the job he has done and think he’s done fantastic. Got to remember last year we had a bit of a thread bare squad upto the January window and and probably one of the biggest positives for me is the players, they all seem to love playing for him and not seem a discerning voice come out of the place since he took charge.

There will be ups and downs like we have seen the last year but that’s football.

I don’t think there is really anyone who would deny there has been improvement since he came in. Nobody can deny that really.

I do think there are plenty folk (me included) who have said that they haven’t always enjoyed watching it. I have really enjoyed watching us this last week, even if I was a bit frustrated we didn’t win on Thursday night.

I think we have the makings of a really decent team.

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So if we get beaten in the derby but still finish 3rd this season is he a failure?


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That question is taking a big leap from the other one.

[Aldo]

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That question is taking a big leap from the other one.

Why is it?


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[Andy74]

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Wrong

There were certainly posters on here after Hearts beat Celtic putting the pressure on Ross.

For a few anyway the next ‘big game’ or derby loss will bring back the chat that he isn’t good enough.

[S4uzee]

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Enlighten me what would you have done?

With sarcasm such as enlighten me, is there a point?

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Why is it?


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Are there still Hibs fans who don’t rate him and want to be critical?

So if we get beaten in the derby but still finish 3rd this season is he a failure?

[Pretty Boy]

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There were certainly posters on here after Hearts beat Celtic putting the pressure on Ross.

For a few anyway the next ‘big game’ or derby loss will bring back the chat that he isn’t good enough.

I think that's just football fans though.

I don't really keep up to speed with the thoughts of Rangers fans but dipped into social media last night. I saw a suggestion that appointing Defoe as a strikers coach has seen them regress when it comes to shots on goal. It was put forwards that Kamara, Aribo and A N Other are all too similar and they need a change in midfield and I read that they only won the league last year because of Celtic's failing and they really aren't that good.

1 defeat in 40 something league games and stuff like that comes out. It's patently nonsense, as it will be if the knives come out for Ross after a bad defeat or 2 but it's not going away either. It's happened since the year dot and social media just gives it a bigger platform.

[Aldo]

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Are there still Hibs fans who don’t rate him and want to be critical?

So if we get beaten in the derby but still finish 3rd this season is he a failure?

So why will the question be answered after the derby?


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[Allez Hibs]

This team certainly is progressing but we have only played two league games and have a lot of work to do to progress in Europe. Was saying at the game today I'd be impressed if we got this game won in half an hour which we pretty much did along with our squad now having a lot of depth - when did we last have this depth?

However, the real proof of progress will be in the bigger games and derbies for Jack Ross before he is even considered "best manager in Scotland" - there is no denying that. As one poster posted it's early days in this season and just let's see how we start it and where it takes us, that's what I was getting at when saying let's see where we are after 10 league games.

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Not sure I’ve seen anything that says he’s above criticism? That would be the hearts game we were the better side and the cup final we were pish and players didn’t turn up, it’s football trust happens not sure what the manager could have done differently I either of those games the players on the other hand

You may feel there was nothing he could have done and that St Johnstone simply “had our number” but for me it was the fact he didn’t make any discernible changes to formation or tactics from the other games where they beat us quite comfortably. We lost to them at home in the league, the semi and the final itself. I agree, particularly in the final the players didn’t turn up, but before the game I’m sure I’m not alone in thinking if they scored first the game was over.

Like PB I wasn’t shouting for him to go, but I was struggling to really enjoy watching his team play. So far this season I’m loving it ! But as Bob says he also needs to find a way to deal with Hearts more agricultural style. What really is encouraging me now though is the style of football, we are really easy on the eye.

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We had performances like today last season as well. I’m sure we’ll have performances like the poorer ones we had last season, too.

Overall though, we’ve been steadily improving since the day Jack Ross set foot in the manager’s office.

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So shy will the question be answered after the derby?


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well we will certainly find out if he still has people wanting to be critical after the derby - win lose or draw.

to answer your question, imo, it is dependant upon different factors, such as; how have his signings worked out, hows our style of play looking, or how are we competing in the "big games".

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well we will certainly find out if he still has people wanting to be critical after the derby - win lose or draw.

to answer your question, imo, it is dependant upon different factors, such as; how have his signings worked out, hows our style of play looking, or how are we competing in the "big games".

People are critical of him now and will never change. They constantly look at the negatives which is easy and fail to give him credit where it’s due.

The same applies to certain players, one misplaced pass and they are right in there but they don’t give credit for the good play or pass.


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[Danderhall Hibs]

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well we will certainly find out if he still has people wanting to be critical after the derby - win lose or draw.

to answer your question, imo, it is dependant upon different factors, such as; how have his signings worked out, hows our style of play looking, or how are we competing in the "big games".

We beat Aberdeen home and away last season, won a Scottish cup semi, drew home and away with Celtic and drew with Rangers - also ran Rangers as close as anyone. No derbies cos they got relegated but we did win at Tiny in their relegation season.

Let’s wait and see though eh.

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People are critical of him now and will never change. They constantly look at the negatives which is easy and fail to give him credit where it’s due.

The same applies to certain players, one misplaced pass and they are right in there but they don’t give credit for the good play or pass.


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totally agree, think its all about frequency imo, 2 bad plays to 1 good play - not good enough. 2 good plays to 1 bad play players get pass marks.

Ross has started this season much more positive, the games have been enjoyable to watch, the switch in formation looks good, murphy and boyle appear to be in good form and its really making a big difference, central midfield is starting to look positive again after years of being ****, things are defo looking up.....just gotta hope it continues and that those people like me (who wanted him sacked last season) are proven to have been totally wrong.

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With sarcasm such as enlighten me, is there a point?

If you have one I’m open to it? Guessing by the lack of one you don’t? And that’s minus any sarcasm 😉