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    Quote Originally Posted by Allez Hibs View Post
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    Behave and stop putting words in other peoples mouths.

    Successful period? What's been achieved?
    What’s been achieved is you are having to find ways of not criticising Jack Ross ..I notice you are still working away at Lewis though ..

    I remain to be convinced you are a Hibs fan ….

    You’re whole patter is negative , until you get called out …


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    The only thing I can say about Heckingbottom is that he was unfortunate to not have Boyle fit.

    He’s shown how big an impact he has on this team. His own performances and the boost he gives others is huge.

    We never had a bad team at the time and guys like Vela may have benefitted like Newell did.

    …………………..Maxwell/Marciano……..

    James……….Porteous……….Jackson/Hanlon……Stevenson…

    ………………..Vela…………Newell/Hallberg……

    Boyle………………….Allan…………….Middleton/Horgan…..

    ………………………..Doidge/Kamberi….

    I’m not saying we would have been third, but Boyle and playing Newell core central (which was the plan initially by the sounds of what he said) could have changed the team.

    But, I’m delighted he got sacked as it meant we got Ross.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allez Hibs View Post
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    Behave and stop putting words in other peoples mouths.

    Successful period? What's been achieved?
    Best league finish in 16 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allez Hibs View Post
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    The club is probably the biggest it's ever been in modern times and we are in a super modern era with this Europa Conference League.
    One man's super modern Europa Conference League is another man's rebranded Intertoto Cup. 😯

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartie View Post
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    Hecky made a couple of fatal mistakes.

    I don't actually think he's a bad manager, but it was correct that he was launched when he was.

    He's exactly the type that you could see going on to succeed elsewhere and make us look daft, but it wasn't going to work out for him with Hibs and we're much better off with who we've got (even if Jack Ross has his flaws.)
    Barnsley’s Stubbs and our Cathro. Right man in the right place at the right club before us and undoubtedly an excellent coach but totally not the right character to lead a club with the lofty ambitions of Hibs.


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    What’s been achieved is you are having to find ways of not criticising Jack Ross ..I notice you are still working away at Lewis though ..

    I remain to be convinced you are a Hibs fan ….

    You’re whole patter is negative , until you get called out …
    Dont know why people respond to him, hibs.nets pub bore

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridge hibs View Post
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    Dont know why people respond to him, hibs.nets pub bore
    Fair point

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    For me the style of football is very important at our club we are traditionally a team that attacks and has in the past had great wide men I don’t like losing obviously but in my opinion if we do lose a game there is a small consolation if we give it our all and attack and try to play good football it helps any disappointment this team are really playing stylish football and like it a lot so far we are in a good place let’s do our bit and get along to support them especially now we hope to get more people in stadiums

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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
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    One man's super modern Europa Conference League is another man's rebranded Intertoto Cup. 😯
    Which would be financially big for the club if we made the group stages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordy M View Post
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    The point was about casting up stuff, nothing to do with who was a dud or not?
    The point was about having patience with managers.

    Jack Ross deserved it, Heckingbottom didn't. ( in my humble opinion of course, I appreciate some folk rated Heckingbottom).

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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
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    One man's super modern Europa Conference League is another man's rebranded Intertoto Cup. 😯
    Much higher level than the intertoto cup was though.

    Europa League is now just the champions League drop out tournament.

    The majority of the stronger teams you could potentially face in the later qualifying rounds of the Europa are now just in the conference league instead.

    Only a total of 9 teams got an entry into Europa League qualifiers this season, whereas in previous seasons there was well over 100.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allez Hibs View Post
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    Playing devils advocate here.

    Hecky has won an English Premier League game as manager. I'm pretty sure Jack Ross would love to do that and have ambitions to do so.
    Would you rather have Hecky as Hibs manager than Jack Ross? If not what point are you trying to make?

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    Also took us to Hampden.
    Once, and we got a hiding IIRC. Ross has taken us there three times so far, including a final. And he'll take us there again.

    The facts show that Jack Ross is a better manager for Hibs than Paul Heckingbottom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caversham Green View Post
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    The facts show that Jack Ross is a better manager for Hibs than Paul Heckingbottom.
    Agreed.

    Poster was saying Jack Ross is doing things Hecky can only dream of.

    No brainer, Jack Ross is clearly better suited to Hibs.

    Happy with how things are looking under Jack Ross and hope we have a great season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allez Hibs View Post
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    Poster was saying Jack Ross is doing things Hecky can only dream of.

    No brainer, Jack Ross is clearly better suited to Hibs.

    Happy with how things are looking under Jack Ross and hope we have a great season.
    Lewis Stevenson has won a Scottish cup, Lionel Messi has not.

    Lewis Stevenson has done things Lionel Messi can only dream of.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WhileTheChief.. View Post
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    The point was about having patience with managers.

    Jack Ross deserved it, Heckingbottom didn't. ( in my humble opinion of course, I appreciate some folk rated Heckingbottom).
    Exactly.

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    I think Jack Ross is doing a great job and will continue to think so until we next lose to Hearts.

    That is said only partly in jest

    The simple truth is that football is an emotive sport, a blind man could see that we are a far better side, squad, structure and better coached than we have been for a long long time, but everyone's view of success and consequently whether the manager is a success or not is framed by their own hot button issues.

    For many, and I am one, that is how we do against Hearts, when we lost that Semi against them I was furious and made some pretty poorly thought out posts and comments, the subsequent St Johnstone defeats didn't affect me as much, although I was annoyed at our no-show in the final.

    I would like to think that when we suffer our next reverse against them I will be a bit more sanguine, but football has shown us time and time again that it doesn't take long for even multiple trophy-winning manager's credit in the bank to be exhausted and them under pressure again.

    The fact that folk have different expectations, whether realistic or not, makes it I think unfair to harshly criticise them for their criticism of the manager failing to meet their needs, it has aye been.

    The time to worry is when the pendulum swings to a substantial majority wanting the manager out.

    My own view is that Ross will be gone long before the support wants him to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northernhibee View Post
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    Lewis Stevenson has won a Scottish cup, Lionel Messi has not.

    Lewis Stevenson has done things Lionel Messi can only dream of.
    Ridiculous post. Clearly goading.

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    Was just looking at our squad in Lennon's last season. Overinflated 37 man squad including some star turns like Hyndman, Mavrais and Nelom. 30 of them are now no longer at the club. Seemed to be a scattergun approach with no plan or direction. Wage bill must have been huge. Now our squad must be around 20/21 players. All look like they can contribute. Crazy to think that was only 2 years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Since452 View Post
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    Was just looking at our squad in Lennon's last season. Overinflated 37 man squad including some star turns like Hyndman, Mavrais and Nelom. Seemed to be a scattergun approach with no plan or direction. Wage bill must have been huge. Now our squad must be around 20/21 players. All look like they can contribute. Crazy to think that was only 2 years ago.
    Although Lennon had us playing some good stuff for a while, his recruitment was appalling and reminded me of McLeish’s scattergun approach around the time of the ‘great adventure”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allez Hibs View Post
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    Ridiculous post. Clearly goading.
    The poacher turned gamekeeper gig doesn't suit you.

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