Conceding headers

[JammyDoidger]

I noticed at the first porto and Hanlon were dragged to mark men on the right hand side of the box. With nisbet and gogic left in the middle. Surely make sense to pass men on and have one centre half at least in the middle of the box. Captain should notice that for me. He's plenty experience.

[Smartie]

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I noticed at the first porto and Hanlon were dragged to mark men on the right hand side of the box. With nisbet and gogic left in the middle. Surely make sense to pass men on and have one centre half at least in the middle of the box. Captain should notice that for me. He's plenty experience.

Part of a specific Motherwell tactic, possibly?

[Crunchie]

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As Marvin Bartley said at half time though as soon as the ball goes wide Porto and Hanlon (as CH's) have to get back in the middle of the box. He was adamant they were at fault.

I'd tend to agree with him, hopefully they learn from it but Hanlon as captain has to do better at organising imo, he ends up with a birds eye view of both goals and marking no one.

[SChibs]

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I'd tend to agree with him, hopefully they learn from it but Hanlon as captain has to do better at organising imo, he ends up with a birds eye view of both goals and marking no one.

Hes clearly marking a man at the first goal

[Crunchie]

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Hes clearly marking a man at the first goal

He's dragged well out of position and left in no mans land, there's not a player on either side within yards of him when their player heads that ball into the net.

[Since90+2]

People seem to want to criticize Hanlon even when he's not at fault for goals we've conceded.

[Crunchie]

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People seem to want to criticize Hanlon even when he's not at fault for goals we've conceded.

If Marvin can bring himself to do it I'm sure there's something in it .

We won the game so it doesn't really matter but we have to get defending at set pieces sorted out and sharpish if yesterday was anything to go by.

As captain and CH I'd say he was open to criticism on this one

[Since90+2]

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If Marvin can bring himself to do it I'm sure there's something in it .

We won the game so it doesn't really matter but we have to get defending at set pieces sorted out and sharpish if yesterday was anything to go by.

As captain and CH I'd say he was open to criticism on this one

We never conceded a single headed goal in the league last season. That suggests to me we are generally pretty good at defending corners and set pieces.

As captain and CH Hanlon deserves massive credit for achieving that.

[Crunchie]

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We never conceded a single headed goal in the league last season. That suggests to me we are generally pretty good at defending corners and set pieces.

As captain and CH Hanlon deserves massive credit for achieving that.

No arguments there here's hoping we don't concede another

[Since90+2]

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No arguments there here's hoping we don't concede another

I'm sure we will. It's a part of the game, every team in the world concedes headers. Though over the last 12 months we concede less than almost every other team.

[AlbertK86]

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If you want to point a finger for both 'Well goals look no further than Gogic.

Great cross for the first but the lad had a free header. Got to be better organised than that, Gogic trying (not very well) to cope with a lad who is 10 foot tall and our two centre baks nowhere to be seen.

We can still get a result out of this.

And gave both the free kicks away that led to goals.
None of them were what you would call good fouls as there was no imminent danger.
There are a crazy amount of goals come from set pieces these days. Can’t afford to give away needless free kicks.

Like him for certain games but we improved dramatically when he went off.

Magennis and JDH both much better on the ball yesterday.


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[Brightside]

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He's dragged well out of position and left in no mans land, there's not a player on either side within yards of him when their player heads that ball into the net.

He was man marking a player from the first phase. You really need to start watching games rather than looking for reasons to slag a player. Marvin was wrong in his analysis.

[AlbertK86]

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I noticed at the first porto and Hanlon were dragged to mark men on the right hand side of the box. With nisbet and gogic left in the middle. Surely make sense to pass men on and have one centre half at least in the middle of the box. Captain should notice that for me. He's plenty experience.

Agree


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[Crunchie]

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He was man marking a player from the first phase. You really need to start watching games rather than looking for reasons to slag a player. Marvin was wrong in his analysis.

I admire your belief in your own expertise, but have a word lol.

[hibbysam]

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He was man marking a player from the first phase. You really need to start watching games rather than looking for reasons to slag a player. Marvin was wrong in his analysis.

And the men they are picking up would be specific tactics sorted pre game. Players don’t just go around changing men within games when it’s already sorted. What we needed is guys, who aren’t small btw, doing their job and not losing their men.

[Since90+2]

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I admire your belief in your own expertise, but have a word lol.

What they've said is exactly correct.

[Crunchie]

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What they've said is exactly correct.

It's all about opinions no one gets it exactly correct. I'm not conceited enough to think I'm ever exactly correct but I do have an opinion and think I'm correct on this one.

[Key West]

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It's all about opinions no one gets it exactly correct. I'm not conceited enough to think I'm ever exactly correct but I do have an opinion and think I'm correct on this one.

Apart from me.

[Brightside]

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It's all about opinions no one gets it exactly correct. I'm not conceited enough to think I'm ever exactly correct but I do have an opinion and think I'm correct on this one.

I’m not conceited I’m just right. 👍

[007]

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My son's primary school team mark better at corners than Hibs.

Ross Out!

FilipinoHibs' son's primary school's coach in!

[greenlex]

Gogic had a shocker yesterday but we are better team defensively with him in the team than not. He’s earned a bit of slack IMO. Certainly doesn’t need replaced. Same for the two centre backs. More worried about McGinn at right back who was superb last season but has had a poor start so far. Having said that he’s also plenty in the bank.

[Fergus52]

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Gogic had a shocker yesterday but we are better team defensively with him in the team than not. He’s earned a bit of slack IMO. Certainly doesn’t need replaced. Same for the two centre backs. More worried about McGinn at right back who was superb last season but has had a poor start so far. Having said that he’s also plenty in the bank.

I'm not sure that's true.

Newell makes more tackles and interceptions, and a midfield three of say Magennis JDH Newell, for example, will keep the ball much better meaning the other team will have less possession and create less chances.

After that performance yesterday Gogic should be benched for a couple of weeks imo. Unless Ross wants him to counter any specific threat Rijeka might have in attacking midfield.

[Key West]

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Gogic had a shocker yesterday but we are better team defensively with him in the team than not. He’s earned a bit of slack IMO. Certainly doesn’t need replaced. Same for the two centre backs. More worried about McGinn at right back who was superb last season but has had a poor start so far. Having said that he’s also plenty in the bank.

Gogic and McGinn were well below the standards they've both set, it happens. Gogic needs to cut out the rash petty fouls and subsequently the bookings he picks up and unnecessary free kicks that give the opposition chances on the cheap.
McGinn was steady last year, a good honest pro but another who can be rash and untidy at times.

[worcesterhibby]

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I also think we miss Doidge in these situations. He's great at helping the defence out at set-pieces.

This

[LaMotta]

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Easier to say when standing watching on a screen and not in the middle of a game, trying to move 4 players around when not knowing how quickly the ball will be recycled. What if those two make a beeline for the middle of the goals and the wide man slips the boy in that Hanlon was marking? This place would go into meltdown!

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Hes clearly marking a man at the first goal

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What they've said is exactly correct.

No offence guys but I'm going to trust Bartley on this one.

[147lothian]

If Doige is not in the starting line-up with his ability to defend set pieces then Daz has to get a start IMO

[Crunchie]

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He was man marking a player from the first phase. You really need to start watching games rather than looking for reasons to slag a player. Marvin was wrong in his analysis.

I watched the full game again on Hibstv, I suggest you do the same. His initial header from the first phase is very poor giving it straight back to Motherwell he's then caught like a rabbit in the headlights looking on as they score.

[Brightside]

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I watched the full game again on Hibstv, I suggest you do the same. His initial header from the first phase is very poor giving it straight back to Motherwell he's then caught like a rabbit in the headlights looking on as they score.

You are wrong. But I realise it’s a waste of time talking about this with you. Enjoy your day.

[Crunchie]

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You are wrong. But I realise it’s a waste of time talking about this with you. Enjoy your day.

You too buddy we're all entitled to an opinion, including Tam McManus who blamed him too . At the end of the day it's all good and we won, I hope he gets back to his exceptional best for the next game

[Brightside]

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You too buddy we're all entitled to an opinion, including Tam McManus who blamed him too . At the end of the day it's all good and we won, I hope he gets back to his exceptional best for the next game

Thanks. My dug knows more about football than Tam so that’s confirmed it for me. 😂👍